Indiscriminately evil old people

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So, before I went to see a show last night, I found a sign on my car, saying:

"Don't know where you belong. But a car can be reported after 72 hours. Service people are coming to this address. Thank you. [street address]"

This is the second time I've gotten such a letter. I know it's from this small old woman -- who looks exactly like one of the rich golfing grannies portrayed in "Roger and Me", by the way -- who lives two houses up from me. My car was parked on the street by her house at that time I saw the sign on my car. Apparently, the "service people" didn't come... haw haw

(To explain...apparently there's an obscure and rarely enforced law in Washington state where you can't leave a car parked in the same spot for more then 72 hours -- to prevent abandoned cars presumably. Given how difficult it is to park in certain parts of Seattle, and how often car owners prefer to use public transportation instead, I never heard of anyone getting ticketed or towed for the above law..)

So, what do I do? I'm about to write a HAPPY HAPPY letter to her saying "Hey, I live down the street from you.. I don't use my car everyday, but be assured I'd never abandon it in front of your house. :) :) :) Sincerely, your kind neighbor" or something like that. But I don't want to feel like I always have to use my car within two or three days now because some crazy evil old woman is going to report my car for committing the horrible crime of leaving it parked on a public street for maybelonger than that. What if I decide to fly somewhere for a week? GRRRRRRRRRRR. I don't think even people in south Orange County, California would be this evil.

And the other day, a friend of mine was telling me about his EVIL grandmother. One day, she called and asked a neighbor of hers to come over to her house, because she "needed help". Her neighbor reluctantly came over to see what's the matter, leaving her two kids at home unattended... but since she was next door anyway, nothing drastic would probably happen right? Well, while the neighbor was walking over to this grandma's house, the grandma calls child support on the neighbor, reporting her for leaving her two kids at home unattended!

So, this is where you get to tell your tales of INDISCRIMINATELY EVIL OLD PEOPLE and how they poison the lives of perfectly nice people for random reasons. (No talk about politicians and CEOs for this thread.. that would be entirely obvious and easy.)

Pics would be even better.

Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Aleister Crowley to thread!

(yes i know he was doing his 'stuff' when he wasn't very old but look at some of those photographs when he aged: scary)

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three days before thanksgiving. i am 16. the phone rings.

crabby old woman down the street who has been known to slam doors on trick or treaters, even though she leaves her porchlight on:

"didn't you used to have a cat?"

my mom: "we have a 13 yr old siamese. but he's been missing for a few days."

crabella: "oh. well, my dogs ate him last night. you never shoulda let him out. i'd give you the body, but they everything but the skull."

what makes old people like this? is this what happens after 50 years of too little fiber?

nancy b., Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oops...forgot the "ate"

nancy b., Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hm. Please tell me this old woman died while being devoured by her dogs in turn.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

crabella: "oh. well, my dogs ate him last night. you never shoulda let him out. i'd give you the body, but they everything but the skull."

To be fair, then, she should hand over her darling puppies over....

Hmm, just when I'd thought there was a limit to cruelty.

Nichole Graham, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

god that's disgusting. yes i have met my share of indiscriminately evil old people (like the woman in Marks when i was about 10 who ranted and ranted at me because i knocked a shirt off the rack EVEN THOUGH i had immediately replaced it. my mum came to the rescue calling her a "bitter old cow" go my mum!) but then i meet lots of lovely ones who smile at me in the street and when i am waiting for buses.

katie, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The thing is that there are plenty of evil young people too but they seem more diluted cos there are plenty of young people who aren't. However the selfish nature of mean evil people ensures that they live longer than their selfless fellow humans and this is why there seems to be a disproportionate number of nasty old people.

Also they have had more time to hone their being mean skillz.

Emma, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I was on the "tube" this morning listening to my discman and it was quite loud because the Victoria Line seems to be noisier and obviously I wanted to actually hear the music.

Anyway this old woman was sitting across from me and she was tapping her feet. It was like that ad a bit with the spoons. Then she got off and some really stunning girl came on.

Ronan, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

She was tapping her feet in time to the banging choons I'm guessing. Stunning young girl, on the Victooria Line. You sure it wasn't Emma who got on?

Pete, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No Pete you old smoothie you unless Emma has undergone some sort of reverse MichaelJacksondectomy.

Ronan, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Whilst of course I was looking utterly stunning on the tube this morning I was certainly not sitting down (pah) and was instead gritting my teeth at the fact that Oxford Circus was closed for southbound Victoria line trains only they didn't EXPLAIN this so everyone gets off at Warren St only to be told that if we stay on until Green Park we can get a northbound train which would stop at Oxford Circus GRRRRR I hate being late through no fault of my own and losing my punctual moral high ground.

Emma, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I got a southbound train to Oxford Circus so clearly it's my lucky day. Also I sat.

Ronan, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Aha, the fabled luck of the Irish.

(Sorry Ronan)

Emma, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm glad you started this thread because I'm living with my Nana at the moment, and I find her behaviour so baffling. If positivity is supposed to be so healthy, how come so many old people are bitter?

Here are some of the things my Nana will do: first of all, on the one hand she is very kind to me. She insists on driving me places even when she must be worn out. She cheered me up when I was depressed and basically took care of me. On the other hand, she can be ridiculously nasty. If I, for example, leave my dishes washed and draining - ie don't immediately put them away - she goes into the kitchen when I'm in my room and says in a loud voice, so that I can hear it, 'disgusting. absolutely disgusting.' but she never says anything directly to me about it, just talks out loud so that I can hear about how disgusting I am - nearly every day. She also swears a lot really loudly when there is no-one else in the room, but everyone can hear her - and then if my Dad swears, she actually says these words: 'Language, Paul. I would never use those words myself.' It's really scary when she says 'fuck' and 'shit.' She also once said to me, 'I had a best friend once, but she betrayed me. So it's not worth it. Take my advice. Don't get close to anyone.'

The other day I had washed the dishes, and my Dad was drying them, and she came into the kitchen and said, 'You need your head read, cleaning up after her.' I was right behind her - it was embarrassing - and then she said, 'I guess she doesn't like me now.' (She often talks about people in the third person, quite cruelly, when they're present.)

But I don't care, I just think she's basically crazy. It IS like old people go crazy. How can they be so mean and just - not realise? My nana thinks that she is so much better than everyone else in the world!

maryann, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know why so many old people seem to get like this Maryann. My grandpa is also mean & nasty, the thing is that for some reason people expect old people to be sweet and kindly so whenever I tell people how mean he is they look aghast as if I'm committing some form of blasphemy. I think it's true to say that when someone's been horrible all their life there's no reason to expect them to change just because they're old. In fact old people have more time to sit around figuring out ways to be spiteful & cruel.

(Not all of them obviously)

Emma, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what makes old people like this? is this what happens after 50 years of too little fiber?

I have heard of people's personalities changing for the worse after ministrokes and similar cerebrovascular events. Also, I can imagine someone who feels marginalized by the ways elders are treated in many societies, or who is suffering from the various physical ailments associated with aging, not feeling in a mood to play nice any more.

However, in some of the scenarios you've described, being eaten by dogs would be too good for them...and would be downright cruel to the dogs.

j.lu, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My Grandma had the ministroke thing happen and it really changed her personality, she became bitter and nasty. She also couldn't add up numbers properly anymore and she got depressed. She was aware of the depression and adding problem but found it really hard to admit that she had become bitter and nasty.

I think in some old people's cases they are bitter and nasty because their offspring treat them so badly. I suspect this is more prevalent now that the self-centred baby-boomers' parents are the old folks.

toraneko, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

eight months pass...
Revive, to help summon the Honourable Fire spirits for Alex, so he can deal with his new neighbor.

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 1 March 2003 06:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, I helped a dear friend of mine move today. Unfortunately, she's moving next to an Indiscriminately Evil Old Lady(tm).

She backed up her moving van, so we could easily unload stuff. Near the end, evil old lady neighbor comes out and yells at me and my other friend to tells us to "move our van NOW, because it's blocking the sidewalk, and blind people could be hurt". Since we were almost done, I told her, "Oh, well yeah, we're going to move that van any minute now, no worries". She pauses and goes. "Not any minute. You're going to move that van NOW! NOOOOOOOWWWWW!"

This neighbor also has, for no rational reason, two metal poles and a chain link fence in front of her driveway on the street.. which looks just very strange. And has her automatic light sensors on all day and night, ready to call the police at the sight of a stranger, apparently.

I wish my friend the best. Dear f'ing lord. (But on the flip, at least none of the immediate neighbors will get away from being robbed)

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 1 March 2003 06:39 (twenty-two years ago)

from being robbed = with being robbed

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 1 March 2003 06:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh man!

So, about six months ago, my wife and I go to the co-op board interview for the new building we just moved into (see weepy thread here: MOVING HOUSE: How Can I Feel Better about it?), and during the course of the proceedings, the board president says: "Are you planning on abiding by the law and carpeting at least eighty percent of your floor?" I reply, "Well, we hadn't really thought about it, but sure.....why?" At this, the board collectively chuckle to themselves, the the board president says, "Well, you'll be living directly above ex-board member Harriet Rosenschmoo (or something), an elderly woman who hates noise and loves to complain." Great.

Six months later, after we'd closed on the apartment, signed all the documents and paid for it, we started moving stuff in. Problem was (and still is), we hadn't sold the first place yet. So, we kept living in the old place while we fixed up the new place -- repainting, etc. Once it's been painted, I started making little trips over with handfuls of stuff -- books, CD's, various sundry items. We also had some furniture moved in that we'd been keeping in storage. Not much; a few bookcases and a chair. The entire operation probably took about fifteen minutes. The next day, I walk into the lobby with another load of stuff. The Super pulls me aside. "You're gonna carpet those floors, right?" he says. "Ummmm.....yes," I answer..suspicious. "why?" He replies, "Well, not for nothin', buddy, but you've already gotten a complaint from your downstairs neighbor!"

We hadn't even MOVED IN YET and the old bitch was complaining.

Before the trouble with Harriet had started, my wife suggested that we simply "kill her with kindness," a policy that was swifly truncated to simply "kill her" once is was clear that the woman was interested in playing hardball. Turns out, the previous occupant of our apartment was simply never home, so she was spoiled with silence...so now the slightest footstep on my floor apparently sends her into fits of apoplectic fury,.....to which I say SUCK IT UP & GET USED TO HONORING THE FIRE, GRANNY!

It's going to get uglier. I can feel it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 1 March 2003 06:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I think "kill her" is a very good idea.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Saturday, 1 March 2003 07:26 (twenty-two years ago)

For years and years on a main thoroughfare in Evanston, Illinois (this would be Ridge Ave for those in the know) was a bungalow on whose front windows was painted the legend (in three-foot-high red type) "PRIVATE PROPERTY. ELDERLY PERSON NEEDS HELP." Apprently the resident was an old woman who continually called the police on her neighbors for such infractions as mowing their lawn or stepping just once on her lawn. She also apparently stepped outside about once a month. I passed by her house every day on the way to middle school. There are some other funny stories about this but I'm forgetting them at the moment.

Amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 1 March 2003 07:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Some old people are very nice.

Then there are the old people who think just being old gives them the right to blatantly try to get in front of you in the checkout queue. When I've already stood there for ten minutes, I pretty much refuse to let this happen. Maybe I'm just a meany.

ChristineSH, Saturday, 1 March 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

My theory is that it's the old people who push in ahead of you everywhere who moan about young people today having no manners.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 1 March 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

God, I can't believe how STRESSED OUT reading this thread has got me. I can't even figure out exactly why -- I think it's because I'm not a physically violent person AT ALL (if you saw me this wd be obv) yet I want to PUNCH SOME SENSE into half the monsters described on this thread. Yuck.

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 1 March 2003 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd say it's 50/50 straight down the line for the crabby to nice ratio with the old people. Old people can be complete bastard sometimes. You know those little grass islands in the moddles of streets? Well, when my dad was growing up, he and his buddies used to play football on a particularly large one in his neighborhood. Apparently, their tackling and hooting annoyed this crabby old lady and she used to come out of her house and throw various citrus fruits at my dad and his friends(we live in Cali. the fruit was abundant and easy to fling...;) ), all while yelling expletives at them. This war continued on for quite a while and the boys took to calling this woman "The Parrot" cause she just yelled and sayed the same crap over and over again. So after a few football matches went without any disturbance, my dad and his friends got curious, so they went to peek in her windows and see what was up, and they found her sitting up at her kitchen table dead. It was great.

As for the nice old people deal, you'll never find an old man that won't let you go before him in line (if you are a girl). It seems that old men will always honor the chivalrous customs of a bygone era. They'll ALWAYS hold a door, say excuse me, or even just offer a helping hand. At least that's always the experiences I've had with them. Cheers!

Lola Falana, Saturday, 1 March 2003 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

moddle= middle and sayed=said OOPS!!!

Lola Falana, Saturday, 1 March 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a noise-sensitive, to put it nicely, downstairs neighbour last year. She wasn't an old lady (though she was sorta shrivelled and nasty-looking) but she was pretty evil--calling the cops on me when my cat knocked something over once, and it landed on the floor etc. She'd also leave nasty notes on my door. The next day she'd be playing "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" so loud the entire building could hear. It was pretty bad. I never had friends over past 10pm, and I used to tiptoe around my apartment 'cuz I didn't want to deal with cops. Thankfully my supers were sympathetic and they found her a place around the corner--right above a 24-hour bagel place and under a big family.

So I know them blues.

slutsky (slutsky), Saturday, 1 March 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

That's true. Old men never do that 'trying to get in front of me at the checkout' thing. I never really thought about it before.

Anyway, when I think about it, I'm half way to being old, so I'd better get slightly better at being charitable to fogies and get in some practice at slagging off the scumbag, degenerate youth of today. They're horribly young and they're having sex too much and taking lots of drugs and being noisy. Bastards.

ChristineSH, Saturday, 1 March 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
So, Alex, any luck with your neighbor? Charlotte will hopefully Honour The Poop all over her?

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 25 March 2004 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...
(Probably linked here already, but... it just fits this thread's context)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx3hqZ_1hUQ

((((((DOPplur)))n)))u))))tttt (donut), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

haaaa, i've seen this one too many times, yet i finally spotted the two sportcoat-wearin' guys in the background

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:37 (nineteen years ago)

you'll never find an old man that won't let you go before him in line (if you are a girl)
think about it!

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 08:46 (nineteen years ago)

thirteen years pass...

https://i.imgur.com/xBcpY7V.jpg

pplains, Sunday, 22 September 2019 22:50 (six years ago)

Whats the context? Looks like Northern Ireland in the shots?

anvil, Sunday, 22 September 2019 23:14 (six years ago)

fuck that's ill

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 22 September 2019 23:23 (six years ago)

those original photographs haunted me as a kid

Dan S, Sunday, 22 September 2019 23:32 (six years ago)

don't think I approve of recreations

Dan S, Sunday, 22 September 2019 23:35 (six years ago)

It would be nice to have some context, if only to mitigate the apparent evil down to the minimum explanation of utter cluelessness.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 23 September 2019 02:44 (six years ago)

this is the worst wdyll thread yet

treeship., Monday, 23 September 2019 02:46 (six years ago)

shows the way we're headed tho

all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Monday, 23 September 2019 02:47 (six years ago)

https://pleated-jeans.com/2011/05/19/old-people-recreate-iconic-photos-from-20th-century/

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 23 September 2019 02:51 (six years ago)

Utter cluelessness seems to about cover it.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 23 September 2019 02:58 (six years ago)

ten months pass...

I think my favorite fact about Sumner Redstone is that at 93, in control of both Viacom and CBS and fighting with his own daughter, two ex-wives and multiple lawyers, he communicated solely through an iPad programmed to say "Yes," "No," and "Fuck you" https://t.co/K5awbtDkp3

— Mathew Ingram (@mathewi) August 12, 2020

calzino, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 13:51 (five years ago)

That is several facts

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 14:04 (five years ago)

one fact containing several details: yes, no and fuck you!

calzino, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 14:06 (five years ago)

*very eddie murphy voice*

YES! NO! AND FUCK YOU TOO!

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 14:58 (five years ago)

tbh if I make it to old age I'm downloading that app.

calzino, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:02 (five years ago)

wb tbh

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:46 (five years ago)


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