do aliens exist? let alone have a sense of humour?

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i dunno, i havent seen 'crop circles' the movie, mel is a nice guy but i dont tend to rush to see his stuff.
im just wondering what you all think about the possible existence of aliens at all.
and i dont mean bacteria on a rock somewhere, i mean actual beings we could communicate with ( haha if we were smart enough ).
and hey why do we always have aliens portrayed as being more clever, more advanced, more benign ( or incredibly evil beyond our nightmares )??
there is the old thing about 'so many worlds so many possibilities etc etc'
but i sometimes wonder if we have passed *et* and just never noticed because he / she is in a form we cannot recognise, ie: not gas-breathing creature visible to our eyes.

donna (donna), Monday, 7 October 2002 00:04 (twenty-three years ago)

is it purely mankinds desire to not be alone that drives people to believe in aliens?
and what if they visit one day and scare the shit out of us?
what if we are the ONLY ONES who exist in a conscious way on a planet?
( well the conscious bit could be debatable for some ).

donna (donna), Monday, 7 October 2002 00:06 (twenty-three years ago)

is there anybody out there?????????????????????

donna (donna), Monday, 7 October 2002 00:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Every day I remind myself that there are existing colours I cannot see.

Ashley Andel, Monday, 7 October 2002 02:51 (twenty-three years ago)

yes donna we're here

FirstName LastName (tracerhand), Monday, 7 October 2002 06:18 (twenty-three years ago)

yes they do - now go and answer my "do they have a sense of humour thread?"

mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 October 2002 07:36 (twenty-three years ago)

why is Hanle y not posting here?

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 7 October 2002 07:38 (twenty-three years ago)

of course they have a sense of humour mark s.
they have to otherwise how would they cope with looking in the mirror at themselves everyday with all those tentacles and eyes and goop all over their squishy pulsating bodies.

donna (donna), Monday, 7 October 2002 08:03 (twenty-three years ago)

sorry, wrong thread

donna (donna), Monday, 7 October 2002 08:17 (twenty-three years ago)

the logic of the only intelligent life in the universe existing on just one tiny planet

vs

the logic of someone having ludicrously advanced resources/facilities to travel thousands of light years through space

is a tough battle...ignoring religion you'd have to question how so many species of life can exist on just one planet and for there to not be anything else anywhere else...this seems preposterous...also, with the incredible range of species on Earth alone I am somewhat entertained by the idea that the planet and its lifeforms are an experiment by a 'superior' being(s) who may or may not possess genitals or the need for clothing themselves...which would make them our God of course


however the most illogical thing ever would be aliens attacking/destroying Earth because any life advanced enough to travel here would require nothing we can provide surely...likewise what could they possibly learn from us that they didnt already know? this itself makes the whole abduction thing seem preposterous. their reason for coming here would be only to educate and enlighten us, which itself would be highly dangerous though

BUT the massive advances in technology of the last 100 years has always bugged me..how did we get so clever so quickly? without any form of offworld intervention whatsoever? blimey...

i really enjoyed the film Signs but man it was ridiculous...the crop circles meant nothing, WHY are aliens always nude? whats their motivation for attacking Earth? how can water kill them if its the basis of all life? etc. etc.

i watched Contact again the other week and thats far more realistic of course

blueski, Monday, 7 October 2002 09:25 (twenty-three years ago)

how did we get so clever so quickly?
we got clever extremely slowly, but it accelerated once we developed a) spoken and then b) written language, because that enabled technological development to become, in effect, Lamarckian, because advances made in one generation could be passed on to the next.

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 7 October 2002 13:54 (twenty-three years ago)

The whole "considering how vast the universe is and how many planets there must be, etc." thing came up this past weekend, and it's nice to contemplate and all, but it really doesn't mean anything. Even if the universe is infinite, it doesn't necessitate the existence of other intelligent life, because it's not that kind of infinite -- among an infinite number of lemons, none of them are apples.

Right now we just have no idea how likely it is for life to develop on a planet, or for life to develop significant intelligence. We don't even know what factors are involved, except in the broadest sense. I doubt those are questions which will be answered any time soon. It seems equally likely to me that we're a strange anomalous quirk, the exception to the way the universe works, as it does that we're one of billions of populated planets.

That said, yeah, I think the whole "aliens abducted me and put crop circles in my ass" thing is a crock. At best you could convince me that various governments have covered various things up, but I doubt those things were big-headed grey aliens.

There was a book that came out a while ago -- maybe as long as ten years now -- which started out interestingly, pointing out parallels between UFO/alien sightings in the modern day and fairy sightings centuries ago. But then, of course, it went on to explain that fairies were aliens, or aliens were fairies, I forget which, and both were real.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 7 October 2002 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

answer my thread tep it is better (sorry donna)

mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 October 2002 14:07 (twenty-three years ago)

hahahaha

donna (donna), Monday, 7 October 2002 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

:(

mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 October 2002 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the fact that many of the objections to life elsewhere keep crumbling: people would claim that planets must be really rare, but they are commonplace (do we know much about frequency of little hard ones as opposed to gas giants yet?); people would say that life requires certain conditions, but we keep finding living things on earth way outside the boundaries, around volcanic vents in the deep sea, or in dense rock with no water at all. I like the idea, but we could be very far from knowing. If there aren't ways around the relativistic speed limits, the part of the universe we can explore is miniscule - if intelligent life with concomitant radio waves developed on the other side of our galaxy a thousand years ago, how long until the waves reach here?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 7 October 2002 18:12 (twenty-three years ago)

real scientific people think that any non-carbon based alien has to be like a rock monster or a super intelligent gas cloud

boxcubed (boxcubed), Monday, 7 October 2002 18:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I HATE YOU ALL

mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 October 2002 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)

also, dinosaurs whup dragons

boxcubed (boxcubed), Monday, 7 October 2002 18:57 (twenty-three years ago)

ooooh fite

jones (actual), Monday, 7 October 2002 18:59 (twenty-three years ago)


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