"Classic or Dud": Classic or Dud

To address your question, I agree that most selections usually fall somewhere between those two polar extremes, but I think they're used as terms simply as a means of reference. It's catchier, after all, than saying: "Grand Funk Railroad: Metza-Metza or They're kinda alright."

http://www.the7thhouse.com/imagegallery/Misfits/gallery%20I/m8.jpg

Example of 'amazing' spread of C-or-D!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22classic+or+dud%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&scoring=d&selm=401c53f1.0112182131.7217c537%40posting.google.com&rnum=3

This meanwhile is the secret origin of Classic Or Dud. I was hoping for symmetry's sake it would be from when I had a Chuck Eddy quote in my .sigfile but no. "And despite the title, I just intended
opinions, not a forced 'Classic!' or 'Dud!' rating.".

The first C-or-D thread - "Votes are tallied"!!!! I *think* I was joking.

Classics Or Duds: The Wedding Present

The first C-or-D: C-or-D thread -

Classic Or Dud: Classic or DUD?

The basic idea was to half-jokingly force people to give an opinion on stuff, after a spate of 'list threads' on alt.music.alternative. I thought that by naming a specific album and making people answer you might get a better response than saying 'name some great albums'. I think I underestimated the capacity for discussion.

We will all have double-awesome suits that are more comfortable than your favorite jeans. Everyone will carry laser blasters, and all the girls on the list will pilot huge japanese-built robots armed with whips.

Legislative sessions will go like this:

"Free drugs for homeless people, final vote! The representatives from NYC!"
"Classic! Dud! Classic! Classic! Classic! Classic! Dud!
"The representatives from London!"
"Classic! Dud! Dud! Dud! Dud! Classic! Classic! Classic! Dud!
"The representatives from the rest of the world!"
"Dud! Classic!"

Yes. An unstoppable dream.

The amusing and good part of C or D (as has been argued elsewhere by tom i think) is that (in an ideal world) forcing people into more extreme positions wheedles out their stronger and more interesting/problematic arguments into the spotlight, thus yeilding more thought and entertainment. A sort of antidote to the "everything gets a 7" critic-lite complacency of the ahahahaha "establishment".

I think ILM is a fairly "jockist" place sometimes in terms of intellectual showboating -- but that's where all the fun is, and I lurve this complaint coming from the PRL contingent of all places. "pure rock fury" ahem hem hem.

Quoting one of Long Fin Killie's most misanthropic lines = twee?

I don't have a problem with it per se, I just think it's funny given that most people I know who are into music eschew the idea that their fervor for it may match the fervor of, say, a sports fan.

and I lurve this complaint coming from the PRL contingent of all places.

Contingent? Okay, so jack cole and I have played music together (every time I've been in Portland this year), but I would think it'd be obvious from reading the PRL (www.pataphysics-lab.com) that it's not so much at all about "x band is better than y band" posturing. Not that ILM is totally that either, but there sure is a lot of it around. If we want to quantify music so badly, what's the difference between that and comparing batting averages? Quarterback ratings?

"pure rock fury" ahem hem hem.

Funny you bring that up since the guy who writes that blog (although it's been blank for some time now) hardly ever posts to ILM, if at all. Actually, I don't think he ever has.

Ah, what the hell. Just keep painting with those broad strokes.