GENERAL ADMIN THREAD

I know that the obvious solution is just not to respond to these people, but that can be really difficult when you're hot-tempered. When certain people have proved that they do *nothing* but start fights and incite flamewars, can't we do something to protect ourselves?

Gareth's got it. If you feel someone is trying to inflame you, just ignore them, reply to someone else on the thread like the person isn't even there. I've been doing that to someone I find completely annoying lately, by and large, and lo and behold I'm not finding him annoying anymore.

I am not a saint. I do not have a lot of patience. I do not suffer fools well. I *know* in my head that the way to discourage these people is to ignore them, but that is very difficult when they personally attack what they know is your weakest defense. I am a bad pacifist- there are only so many times that I can be (metaphorically) kicked in the head before I will respond with the same vitriol that is directed at me.

This is hardly the first time I've come up across some asshole on the web- it happens on nearly a weekly basis across various forums. If you are outspoken and opinionated and have a high profile, people will attack you, going "Ooh, look, I'm so tough, going up against Kate St.Claire". It goes with the territory, and I am tough enough to be used to it.

But I find it *very* difficult when the attacks go from being against your opinions and ideas, to being personal attacks against yourself. You try to make a point or an argument, and they respond with an insult. That, to me, is when it starts to violate the internet "Geneva Convention".

Suppose your right. Sometimes, the emotions that I feel for music, so big, can't barely contain it. But I'm moving on....

This is the last time I will argue with you, Paul.

1) When did I attack you? Someone asked a question about the Strokes, and I answered with my opinion. I *really* don't like them. Then you went apeshit on me. Some people seem unable to grasp the concept that one can disagree with an *opinion* without disrespecting the person involved. I DISAGREED with you. I did not attack you. The attack was yours.

2) Upon reading other threads you were involved with, I realised that you go out of your way to attract attention, negative or positive, and quickly stopped responding to you. I was having a conversation with Scott P. as your posts got ruder and more frequent. When you realised we weren't paying attention to you, that's when you started insulting and attacking me. This thread is me *complaining* about your attacks, not a personal attack. You seem unable to grasp the idea that you have done anything wrong.

3) What does me, or my band, or your personal opinions about me being a "scenester" have to do with any of the questions we were discussing? How does insulting me personally, or my band, either advance your argument, or do anything except piss me off? Wow, that's a way to win friends, influence people, and get them to respond to your questions/posts.

4) I do not have admin priviliges, and I cannot block you. But as far as I am concerned from now on, YOU. DO. NOT. EXIST. That's right. Bang on all you like, I've given you enough attention, there is no longer ANYTHING you can do or say to make me respond to you. Now fuck off back to your hole.

I really don't like attention, believe or not, I don't. I am honest, however and my opinion, negative or positive, piss people off. What I don't like and what I term negative scenester head is thus:

NSH (Negative scenester heads) sit a back table at any club, darkened, of course and you hear snickering coming from the table as they loudly discuss how much they hate music. They invariable are all in bands, that are mediocre or alright but they pretend that they are rock and roll stars. Other bands will come up and say hello and what not and then when they leave NSH's will immediately tell everyone how much they hate that band, after, schmoozing with said band.

But the worse, is when they take the piss out of any geek or freak that comes to the show. Cause really that is what rock and roll is there for. The geeks and freaks who go to teh show, not looking the coolest, but just going cause they love music.

NSH's will take the piss out of those people, becuase, they love music or because they idolize singers/musicians. In NSH world that is a crime to do either. I have heard amazing beautiful stories about geeks and freaks and ordinary folk (like me) coming up to singers/songwriters and telling the singer/songwriter how much they have changed their lives. That is what music is about.

You were not having a conversation about the strokes, in fact, you barely mentioned the music, on a music thread. There was no pros or cons, just negatives about how much no one should love such and such band.

I'm not on this life to make friends and schmooze. I'm here to speak my mind and to do it as honestly as I know how.

If you don't like me, I am not arsed. I have made many enemies out of NSH's and it never bothered me. I like to think I represent the ordinary people who love rock and roll. NSH's hate ordinary people but they don't realize how ordinary they actually are.

I love music and people, believe it or not. And nothing you will say, will ever make me stop and think, differently.

God bless the bellrays, the hives, primal scream, mahalia jackson and wichita recordings.

Paul.

this:

I love music, not the scene.

-=then=-

this:

I walked away after he played a blinding show with members of sloan, alan mcgee and various others in attendance.

this:

I love music, not the scene.

-=then=-

this:

I walked away after he played a blinding show with members of sloan, alan mcgee and various others in attendance.

this:

I love music, not the scene.

-=then=-

this:

I walked away after he played a blinding show with members of sloan, alan mcgee and various others in attendance.

heed ye

There is something of a kontradiction there, no?

kiss kiss

you cant post on here becuase if you love rock and roll you are ridiculous.

But then I remember I don't have any kids and that Nicky Wire should be spanked, preferably by a robot. Rice-a-roni anyone?

I don't know about Law & Order, but I think maybe Burt Reynolds or Gary Coleman could do the infomercial. My heart says Ken Berry, but I should be pragmatic about this!

J Japanoise O Oscillating S Schizophonic H Hitman

The JOSH unit would roam the land, fighting for pop justice. JOSH could rock too, and has a built-in moog. Christina Aguilera would be involved somehow, because she looks like an twisted robot synthesis of Jem and Cher.

They should build a robot Richey to replace the real one. But the rest of the band would get so jealous of his good looks that Nicky would accuse robots of being corporate and evil and would send him to the scrap heap.

More likely Nick will try to use JOSH for vaccuuming, tho... (not that JOSH sucks or anything... mwah hah ha, courtest of my boy, making sarccy comments in the background)

I would recommend ignoring all designed-to-annoy posts, even (*especially*) personal attacks.

Me and Ian went to Bourbon Street on Sunday night and there were NOTHING but sailors there. It was so bizarre. I was all, next time I'm calling ahead of time to make sure it's not sailor night.

But that would be a bit shit, too.

I'm going to take the general stance of simply ignoring Calum's very existence, even if he does resort to general offensiveness of the level that he descended to the Lauren Laverne thread.

However, if I really need to ask for some moderation, I'm going to do it here. Just to let you know. OK? Thanks.

But I guess it's good to remind ourselves occasionally "this too will pass".

Don't think. What are you thinking right now?

And this one:

Does ILM need a FAQ?

Some of us read this at work, remember?

Please remove them.

Manitoba ICA Friday night - anyone going?

http://www.sonic.net/~playland/img/it.gif

(I'm not really sure if this is a reason to unlock the thread though.)

the point's been made: calum is claiming his computer's been invaded by a hostile ilxor and believes it's blount, blount doesn't care what calum believes, escalate towards infantile tedium

Boo hoo hoo!

As usual, my own, special, unique problem is the same problem everyone else is dealing with.

classic material

looooool @ Buffalo Mozzarella

NSH (Negative scenester heads)

^^ could be a meme in fall '08

My internet security has blocked ilxor (specifically I Love Music) a couple of times today. This has never happened in years of using the site (it's my homepage so it appears every time I use the internet). Should I be worried?

Occasionally old image hotlinks will show up later in malware alerts. Can you say which threads are causing problems and if you're getting malware messages?

Thanks.

I think it was on the I Love Music home page. Will make a note of the details/message if it happens again.