Me dont like those indie hipsters

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I`ve just come across an attrocious haven for indie-hipsters..lipstickandcigarettes.com..and I thought NME.com`s angst message board was bad enough. Have a look at the profiles and tell me these people aren't desperate to be cool...AND they barely even mention their supposedly beloved music on the message board...just a bit of ostentatious name-dropping here and there, and proclamations of how superior they are to those mainstream suckers. Which makes me wonder do these ppl realize how obnoxious their attitude can be? Can't wait till they all drop their "trashy 80s" obsession and move on to the next fad they know nothing about but pretend to love anyway.

― Fran, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 09:34 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.lipstickandcigarettes.com/user.php?a=%2Fpoop.php%3Fa%3D0&b=Crystal

This one's my favourite. Call me a sucker, but, sharing the same favourite band as the girl, I tend to know how to spell "Violent Femmes". Note the "shocking" rap quote at the end. She'll be shooting up Birmingham hair salons within weeks.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Skrewdriver ???

― phil jones (interstar), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I also like this when I try to go to the front page :

"Microsoft Internet Explorer is REQUIRED to view this site."

― phil jones (interstar), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

'being desperate to be cool' is the new cool, until 'being desperate to not be desperate to be cool' replaces it, and so on and so forth

― dave q, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 11:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Can we not do the board harasses other board thing cos it's k-lame? (Not that anybody is yet I know)

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)

anyway, to be honest, i think Crystal is totally cool. i would hang out with crystal for sure...so there!

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

she reminds me of fairuza balk

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)

They're just kids. Give 'em a break.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah! N is right!

And liking Kreator is very cool.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

And liking Skrewdriver (http://www.msrproductions.com/skrewdriver.htm) is what then? Ironic?

― phil jones (interstar), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, there's no irony post 9/11. Or post 911, I forget.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

There are actually plenty of ppl in their 20s posting on that msgboard with equally annoying profiles. My point was simply that i don`t like the way they present themselves and I don`t just mean the lipstickandcigarettes brigade (I was only using em as an example) but indie-hipsters(or at least those I know, all of whom with one exception are in their 20s). Why so self-conscious(they evn refer to themselves as indie hipsters or scenesters)? Why are musical opinions so rarely thought out? Why such an obesession with hairstyles? They seem to define themselves and others by musical tastes, that "its not what you`re like its what you like" thing, without really knowing where there own taste stands, oh and they`re way more ficklie than the pop fans they slag off. Not that I dislike them per se, they just really puzzle me.

― Fran, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

perhaps the obsession with hair, and the fickleness, and the lack of thoughtoutness is a good thing though. i mean, they are all totally pop characteristics?

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Malevolent Creation? That's just absurd...

― Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd like to be a hipster obsessed with hair, but unfortunately i have none and am therefore an outcast

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

You can be obsessed with the hair of others!

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

way ahead of you there

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Pop characteristics are fine, except if you actually despise pop and take yourself way too seriously. When pop fans display pop characteristics its ok cos it tends not to be part of a pretence...they don`t seem to name drop acts they`ve heard very little by, only to bluff when probed about it.
Plus people who constantly talk about assymetric fringes and stilettos, except for the odd bit about how chicks on speed,gang of four,raveonettes "are like really cool" are nothing but boring.

― Fran, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

well, that's why you're here and not there, isn't it?

― michael wells (michael w.), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

and crystal looks hot.

― michael wells (michael w.), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Fran it's not an indie board at all - it's a hipster kid pickup board! So asymmetric fringes and stilettoes are super-duper important!

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

hmmm well you all seem so diplomatic here and the threads are way too long.

― Fran, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.lipstickandcigarettes.com/user.php?a=%2Fpoop.php%3Fa%3D0&b=feverish
If Marilyn Manson and Sheryl Crow had a kid....

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

i wasn`t just talking about the message board....I was generalizing (yes that`s very bad of me) based on actual ppl I know.

― Fran, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

If Marilyn Manson and Sheryl Crow had a kid....

it wd look like graham?

― michael wells (michael w.), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

http://lipstickandcigarettes.com/images/members/img_18593.jpg
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN THIS PICTURE!

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, hipster kid pick up board? Where would they find the time in their style-packed lives for internet usage? Oh except for when they want to do a little late night/early morning posting after a night out at their local indie-fashionista hotspot, where they spotted orpossibly got off with a member of some up and coming band.

― Fran, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Calista Flockhart in Lesbian Tryst. Film at 11.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm much more scared because I can't understand what the fuck the "discussions" are about, who's talking to who, what they're talking about , what any of it means.

Am I too old? Should I have been retired at 30 to make way for this new breed?

― phil jones (interstar), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude...she digs fingerbanging, how more straightforward can she possibly make it?

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Fran take it easy. If they're really all that bad (which I doubt) wouldn't you rather they were posing about on message boards/ in nightclubs you don't use? Maybe it's just one thing they do, just part of the time. Shallow can be fun.

― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

You don't UnderStand. It's so Hard being Young and Beautiful And Cool all at the Same Time. Damn, man, Irony, Aloofness, cigarettes don't Even taste Good, it's so Hard and I don't Even Like Black.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually Anna watching them is fun from time to time. If I had better hair I might even have joined em.. curly hair cannot do the assymetric thing.

― Fran, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

My sister`s becoming one...so I can`t really get away from it.

― Fran, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm much more scared because I can't understand what the fuck the "discussions" are about, who's talking to who, what they're talking about , what any of it means.

Sadly I have to second this, and I haven't even hit 30.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

The real "irony" is how Skrewdriver apparently shared album space with a band called Public Enemy.

― mike a (mike a), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 18:19 (twenty-two years ago)

hahahahaha...i found a good singer thru one of those actually. she's boy crazy, but what 20 year old isn't???

― kephm, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe she just likes the first Skrewdriver album (+ related singles). I know I do, one of my favorites from the era. Nothing but "good" politics on that one, fer sure. Awesome gtr + inchoate adolescent rage, minus the unfortunate scapegoating to follow.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

She does look EXACTLY LIKE Nikki Colk out of Kaito, which is a very good thing.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

These indie kids seem to be having a good deal of fun committing whatever cultural errors they are committing.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

They're all the same person !

― daria g, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 06:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Those damn kids, it's always something!

Just wait, I see a few of them joining together to live in a commune...and a grateful dead type of modern band coming out of this...and mass activities in casual sexuality.

Someday there'll be like the most amazing cultural genuis ever and then he will finally accomplish the impossible--making the act of shitting your pants as being cool. And just the mere thought of this possibly happening keeps me from finally taking my hand gun to my head and pulling the trigger. Oh, I may be sad right now, and in every moment crave for the blissful peace of death, but I'll finally get the last laugh when all you kids are shitting yourselfs, won't I!

Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha!

― Jewish Aboriginy Strobe Light (Jewish Aboriginy Strobe Light), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 06:54 (twenty-two years ago)

well, i looked through this site last night, and i thought they were cool, i liked them! the thing is, its quite addictive because you wonder if you will see someone you know, or someone from ilx, which would be fantastic!!! unfortunately, most of them seem to be high school students in places like dayton and shreveport so i guess its pretty unlikely...

― gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Liking Screwdriver for irony's sake, or even to shock, and MAYBE even for some BS reason like "It's not about what views they have... it's the art man...", is pushing it. Too far.

That's not hip-- it's retarded.

― David Allen, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

taking sides:

lipstickandcigarettes vs. makeoutclub

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Which one has gotten you more underaged poon, Jon?

― Adrian Langston (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

OnlyUndiesClub is better !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't mind indie hipsters as long as they don't try and bum me

― Ferg (Ferg), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

"OnlyUndiesClub is better !"

But 130 pages is too many to search through. Which one should I see for Sage Francis in a thong?

― Paula G., Wednesday, 8 January 2003 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

David Allen, have you even heard the first Skrewdriver album?

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

If I had better hair I might even have joined em

Aha!

― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Look at lipstickandcigarettes and then look at this piece of shit

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 9 January 2003 05:00 (twenty-two years ago)

and I don't Even Like Blacks.
-- Nick Southall (n.j.southal...), January 7th, 2003.

FUCK U WHITEY

― KERAZZY NUH, Thursday, 9 January 2003 09:11 (twenty-two years ago)

okay, mock attributing racist commments to other posters is *not* funny.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 9 January 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

David Allen, have you even heard the first Skrewdriver album?
-- Mr. Diamond (electrifyingmoj...), January 8th, 2003

Parts. Generic punk/oi. Awful.

― David Allen, Thursday, 9 January 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

generic oi? Hmm.. then you haven't really listened to it. i'll give ya "An-Ti-So-Cial". But generally a lot less metal than oi, more classic rock. got much more in common with pub-rock, if anything. Covers of the Who and the Stones. Hell, "Jailbait" could be an AC/DC song. Nice little record, and as I mentioned there is nothing lyrically offensive (unless you're a Tory). But then, I collect a lot of the early Chiswick stuff. Ah well, colour me retarded.

On the other hand, I haven't heard nor own any of the Eminem records (other than what I can't avoid from the radio, etc.) because I keep reading about his attitudes towards homosexuality and, well, I'd rather not have that type of thing in my house.

anyhoo, thanx for th' considered exchange!

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 9 January 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

nine months pass...

Well,I broke down and visited the LAC site and all these kids are doin' what every fuckin' group of kids has always done...see and be scene...who gives a rats ass and why?

RAY STRICKLAND 10/20/2003 12:05am

― RAY RAY FROM TAMPABAY, Monday, 20 October 2003 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

hey
just to say you make some very goood and valid points and
i happen to agree with you.
how woul i be able to visit the site for myself?
because after i'd finished reading what you wrote i tryed to go to the site but it didn't work, i even typed it in google.
could you seend me a link or somthing?
thanks
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
kitty

― kitty linton, Friday, 31 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Two Hipsters Angrily Call Each Other 'Hipster'

March 29, 2006

AUSTIN, TX—An argument between local hipsters Dan Walters and Brian Guterman has devolved to the point where each is angrily calling the other "hipster," those close to the pair reported Monday. "Hey, hipster! Here's 12 bucks—why don't you go get yourself a bucket of PBRs at the Gold Mine?" Walters, 22, is said to have told Guterman, 22, invoking the name of a local bar known for its "poseur" clientele. "Whatever you say, scenester," Guterman allegedly replied. "Don't you have a Death Cab For Cutie show to be at right now?" Acquaintances of Guterman and Walters trace the long-running conflict back to high school, when they reportedly threw pencils at each other and argued about who was more "emo."

― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Saturday, 1 April 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

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