this is ilm's fake pazz and jop thread

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cuz hstencil asked for it.

so, this is where everyone posts their top 10 albums and singles of the year, and when we're all done we (meaning me i guess haha) tabulate it and come up with a master list. same rules for p&j apply here: each album is assigned a point value of no more than 30 (and i think no less than 5, but i don't have the rules nearby), 100 points total, distributed amongst the ten. no points for singles, just list em.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 February 2003 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I've already forgotten mine. The Boom Selection collection was in there somewhere, though.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 February 2003 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

ned, stop that, contribute or don't

here's my revised list

albums:
streets - opm 25
m mayer - immer 20
2 many djs - as heard on radio soulwax 15
so solid crew - f**k it 10
herbert - secondhand sounds 5
wire - read and burn 01/02 5
boards of canada - geogaddi 5
sonic youth - murray street 5
jesus & mary chain - 21 singles 5
v/a - this is tech-pop 5

singles:
nelly - hot in herre
lcd soundsystem - beat connection
dizzy rascal - i love you
sugababes - freak like me
clipse - grindin (selector rmx)
sash funke - when will i be famous?
wildbunch - danger! high voltage!
nappy roots - aw naw
eminem - without me
more fire crew - oi!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 February 2003 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

How is this different from the ILx year-end poll that already happened?

― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 14 February 2003 03:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i will close voting on tues. at midnight. and if you don't contribute i will find you and spit in your eye

were there points for that, mark?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 February 2003 03:53 (twenty-two years ago)

(haha i just did a search and found out it did. and it was just as boring as pazz and jop. how is this different then? we can do better. alternately we can turn it into a massive joke ala blount and alex in sf and my best singles of the 80s)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 February 2003 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)

(as seen here: Dominique Leone and Ryan Pitchfork I'MA CALLIN' YOU OUT!)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 February 2003 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks jess! I will copy and edit mine from the PRL, with comments (!):

1. Deerhoof, Reveille (Global Buddy, no number) LP
2. Kevin Drumm, Sheer Hellish Miasma (Mego, 053) CD
3. Metamatics, FromDeathtoPasswordsWhereYou’reaPaperAirplane (Hydrogen Dukebox, Duke98LP) LP
4. MIMEO/John Tilbury, The Hands of Caravaggio (Erstwhile, 021) CD
5. The Dead C., New Electric Music (Language Recordings, three) CD
6. Rocket from the Tombs, The Day the Earth Met… (Smog Veil, SV37CD) CD
7. Angus MacLise, Astral Collapse (Quakebasket, Qb-16) LP
8. AMM, , III – It Had Been an Ordinary Enough Day in Pueblo, Colorado (JAPO/ECM, JAPO 60031) LP
9. Noah Howard, Noah Howard at Judson Hall (ESP-Disk, ESP 1064) LP
10. Charlemagne Palestine, Strumming Music (Shandar, 83517) LP

Honorable Mentions (new): Astrobotnia, Part 01 (Rephlex, cat 123) LP; (Various Artists), Kevin Drumm and Lasse Marhaug, Frozen by Blizzard Winds (Smalltown Supersound, sts059cd) CD;
The Kingdoms of Elgaland~Vargaland 1992-2002 +++ (Ash International [R.I.P.], Ash 6.6) 2CD; masami akita & russell haswell, satanstornade (Warp, WARPLP666) LP; Max Tundra, ”Mastered by Guy at The Exchange” (Domino, WIGLP112) LP; Ohne, 1 (Mego, Ohne 1) CD' Charlemagne Palestine, Music for Big Ears (Staalplaat, std 156) CD; C. Ptak, Prepare Your Self (Here See, 00001) CD (Thanks Carly!); Pure, Noonbugs (Mego, 030) CD; String Theory, String Theory's Anhedonia (The Consumers Research and Development Label, crl 002) CD; Wire, Read & Burn 01 (Pinkflag, PF4) CD; Wolf Eyes, Dead Hills (Troubleman Unlimited, TMU 104) CD.

Honorable Mentions (Reissues): Jacques Berrocal/Dominique Coster/Roger Ferlet, Musiq Musik (Fractal, 017) CD; Parson Sound, s/t (Subliminal Sounds, TILCD02) 2CD; Taj Mahal Travellers, August 1972 (P-Vine) 2CD.

Honorable Mentions (old non-reissues): Ame Son, << catalyse >> (Spalax, 14823) CD; AMM, AMMMusic 1966 (ReR Megacorp/Matchless, ReRAMMCD) CD; AMM, Combine + Laminates (Pogus, P204-1) LP; Amon Duul, Disaster (Spalax, 14948) CD; Steven Jesse Bernstein, Prison (Sub-Pop, SP 101B) CD (Thanks Joseph!); The Electric Prunes, I Had Too Much to Dream Last Night (Reprise, 6248) LP; Halo of Flies, Fuck the World, Fuck You (Pubic Pop Can, pcplp3) LP; The Hat City Intuitive, They Must Be Clapping for...Me! (Crank Automotive, CAR10) CD ; Bert Jansch, Jack Orion (Vanguard, VSD-6544) LP; Kraftwerk, s/t (Vertigo) 2LP (Thanks Bearman and Cliff!); Tony Oxley Quintet, The Baptised Traveller (Columbia, 494438 2) CD; To Live and Shave in L.A., The Wigmaker in 18th Century Williamsburg (Menlo Park, MPK 7020 CD) 2CD.

Two releases that made me “re-believe” in rock – albeit twisted rock – in 2002 were Deerhoof’s latest and the Rocket from the Tombs reissue (more on that later). My appreciation of the first is in no small part due to the abiding influence/generosity of jack cole and queequeg, who took me to see Deerhoof when they played in Portland, OR in early November. I can’t say like, maybe some others could, what this LP means as compared with their other releases. So perhaps I’m missing something, but who cares? I’m glad I finally got around to hear this amalgamation of hot rock leads, killer drum breaks, awkward juxtapositions, neurotic fits and starts, simple (in the best way) sweet melodies, warped mindview, etc. Also, dig the nice homemade sleeves, y’all!

It is probably pretty lame of me to put releases by a guy that I “know” on this, but fuck it. He deserves whatever notoriety he can get, if you ask me (and it ain’t like I’m some big tastemaker or something). A simple way to put it: this is the best goddamn incomprehensible noise I’ve heard in a long, long time. Sets a high bar for the rest to follow, whether it wants to or not.

I guess you could say this stuff is more in the “pastoral electronic” vein, akin to maybe Boards of Canada or some of the mellower stuff on Kompakt. Or you could just say whatever you want, I don’t give a fuck. The former has been a late night standby around mi casa all ’02 long, the latter a late contender for the same status. Lucid dreaming, encoded in aluminum.

Some pretty different and new approaches here to “Ye Olde Noise,” or maybe not? The first pairs Mr. Merz Bow with Mr. England Enfant Terrible (or so the press would have you believe, anyway) – and it’s a nice pairing, kinda like when two different dogs on leashes get to ruttin’ at the park while their owners look on embarrassingly and hellacious barking erupts. The MIMEO/Tilbury is a can of worms I don’t wanna open, but is a pretty confident large-ensemble approach to, uh, hands or something. Last but not least some Euros get down and nutty with former To Live and Shave In L.A. dude Tom Smith. Dig it.

― hstencil, Friday, 14 February 2003 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Here are the links, and if you want to make this different you should ask different questions:

albums

singles

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 14 February 2003 03:58 (twenty-two years ago)

haha i already have a feeling this is going to be the BEST LIST EVER

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 February 2003 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

or a total trainwreck which in this case is the SAME THING

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 February 2003 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll list 10 blank CDRs I filled with things, that has to count. *flees Jess's wrath*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 February 2003 04:08 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Don Howland Land Beyond The Mountains Birdman Records (20)
2. Flying Luttenbachers Infection and Decline Troubleman Unlimited (15)
3. Ron House Obsessed Moses Carryout (15)
4. Carpozzi Park The Record Of . . . Blue Curtain (10)
5. Deerhoof Revielle 5RC/Kill Rock Stars (10)
6. Dälek From Filthy Tongue of Gods and Griots Ipecac (10)
7. Oneida Each One Teach One Version City/Jagjaguwar (5)
8. Max Tundra Mastered By Guy At the Exchange Tigerbeat6/Domino (5)
9. Forcefield Roddagdango Load Records (5)
10. Orinka.Crash.Suite S/T tUMULt laboratories (5)

― jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 14 February 2003 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)

no singles for me.

― jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 14 February 2003 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)

hmm the diff between this and the earlier thread is that in my orig. query I asked if we could do something where those that didn't vote in P&J, but jess took the initiative and that's cool and man I drank way too much coffee today I'll never go to sleep or get off the computer.

(anybody care to rip my list/comments to shreds?)

(oh crap hi jack i luv you)

― hstencil, Friday, 14 February 2003 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)

you need to spread the 100 points between your ten, h, or jess wont have anything to tabulate. kisses, jack.

― jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 14 February 2003 04:12 (twenty-two years ago)

oh whoops, I just now figured that out. Okay, 10 points for all!

― hstencil, Friday, 14 February 2003 04:14 (twenty-two years ago)

are you sure you dont want to go with "the avril lavigne ate my homework" instead, h?

― jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 14 February 2003 04:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean 10 points for my ten picks, no points for honorable mentions.

― hstencil, Friday, 14 February 2003 04:17 (twenty-two years ago)

1) Daft Punk, Discovery
2) Van Halen
3) Beck, Buck Fuck Iowa
4) Ghostface Killah, Supreme Clientele
5) Ghostface Killah, Supreme Clientele again

This will only get worse.

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 14 February 2003 04:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Single of the year: DJ Assault's "Ass N Titties"!

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 14 February 2003 04:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Since jess seems to be serious abt. this actually I'll try and post my non-ridiculous "Top ten things actually from 2002 that I forgot/didn't know about until after I submitted my ballot" thing later. Cassetteboy will be on there. As will Giddy Motors (Nate in enjoying a highly-praised-by-Pitchfork CD shockah!

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 14 February 2003 04:58 (twenty-two years ago)

So, we just list our favorite records in order and assign points to them, making sure the points add up to 100?

Apologies for such lousy predictable taste.

ALBUMS:

1. The Streets - ORIGINAL PIRATE MATERIAL (25 points)
2. The Flaming Lips - YOSHIMI BATTLES THE PINK ROBOTS (20 points)
3. Various Artists - THE BEST BOOTLEGS IN THE WORLD... EVER! (15 points)
4. The Flaming Lips - THE DAY THEY SHOT A HOLE IN THE JESUS EGG (10 points)
5. Ms. Dynamite - A LITTLE DEEPER (5 points)
6. Various Artists - THE ULTIMATE LESSONS (5 points)
7. Blackalicious - BLAZING ARROW (5 points)
8. Wilco - YANKEE HOTEL FOXTROT (5 points)
9. Coldplay - A RUSH OF BLOOD TO THE HEAD (5 points)
10. Tom Petty - THE LAST DJ (5 points)

SINGLES:
1. The Flaming Lips - "Fight Test" (30 points) (song of the decade so far)
2. Vitalic - "Poney EP" (20 points)
3. Underworld - "Two Months Off" (15 points)
4. Coldplay - "In My Place" (5 points)
5. Neil Hamburger - "Neil Hamburger Remembers Richard Nixon" (5 points)
6. OutKast - "The Whole World" (5 points)
7. X-Press 2 featuring David Byrne - "Lazy" (5 points)
8. Ms. Dynamite - "Put Him Out" (5 points)
9. Mos Def and Massive Attack - "I Against I" (5 points)
10. Eminem - "Without Me" (5 points)

― Evan (Evan), Friday, 14 February 2003 05:01 (twenty-two years ago)

dj martian would not approve of that list.

― keith (keithmcl), Friday, 14 February 2003 05:02 (twenty-two years ago)

julio to thread

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 February 2003 05:05 (twenty-two years ago)

ok... here's my ilx top 2002 poll submission... very in line with my prl one...

Xiu Xiu "The Chapel of the Chimes" EP 20 points
Dalek "From Filthy Tongue Of Gods And Griots" 15 points
Interpol "Turn on the Bright Lights" 15 points
Max Tundra "Mastered by the Guy at Exchange" 10 points
Wolf Eyes "Dead Hills" 10 points
Deerhoof "Reveille" 10 points
Tujiko Noriko "Hard Ni Sasete" 5 points
Devendra Banhart "Oh Me Oh My..." 5 points
Anti-pop Consortium "Arrhythmia" 5 points
Q and not U "Different Damage" 5 points

Music, single: (ten, non-ranked)

Xiu Xiu "Jennifer Lopez" (The Sweet Science Version)
Dalek "Black Smoke Rises"
Cynthia Dall "Wastebasket Kid II"
Missy Elliot "Work It"
Tojiko Noriko "Fly"
Interpol "Obstacle 1"
Don Howland "Life Goes on Here"
Johnny Cash "Hurt"
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum "The Stain"
The Pupils "I Will Remain Human for Another Day"

if singles get points... 10 each...
m.

― msp, Friday, 14 February 2003 05:39 (twenty-two years ago)

singles

swayzak ~ i dance alone
miss kittin ~ rippin kittin
avenue d ~ do i look like a slut?
w.i.t ~ ooh i like it
westbam ~ oldschool baby
dj maryk ~ lk/carolina carol bela
archigram ~ carnival
jill scott ~ slowly surely (theo parrish rmx)
pitman ~ phoen pitman
the juan maclean ~ you cant have it both ways

― gareth (gareth), Friday, 14 February 2003 07:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Was a singles protocol ever established? Can they be any song, or just songs that were released as singles?

― Dan I., Friday, 14 February 2003 08:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Singles must be songs no longer than 4 minutes that feature the title of said song somewhere in the lyrics, and the singer / rapper must be wearing pink hotpants during the recording of said song. Also, there must be a rabbi present in the studio during the recording in order that the proceedings can be rightfully deemed "kosher".

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 February 2003 08:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks! in that case, here's a list of songs I liked from last year that fulfilled the requirements (except for the lyrics part. and the 4 minutes part):

Nas - Get down
Amerie - Why don't we fall in love
Chromeo - You're so gangsta
Wiley - Eskimo
Space Cowboy - I would die 4 U
Telepopmusik - Breathe
Swimmingpool - Diver pt.2
Shakedown - At night
Nas - Made you look
Cosmos - Take me with you
Chromeo - Needy Girl

A few of these I don't have a clue if they're from 2002 or not. Embarrassing!

(PS: Fuck albums. I don't love you Jerry, I don't love you Easy, &etc.)

― Dan I., Friday, 14 February 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, and I know this one came out in 2001 but, shit, you KNOW no-one heard it until 2002:

Christina Milian - AM to PM

(PPS: Damn hstencil! I keep forgetting how fucking hardcore you are!)

― Dan I., Friday, 14 February 2003 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)

here's my final 2002 ballot. i keep shuffling 2-8 around, though the titles have remained more or less constant. 9 and 10 are wildcards that could just as easily include AMM 'Fine', In Gowan Ring 'Hazel Steps through a Weathered Home, Ahwesh/Ess 'Radio Guitar' and at least a dozen other worthy contenders.

1. MIMEO & John Tilbury - The Hands of Caravaggio (Erstwhile)
2. Tape - Opera (Häpna)
3. Minamo - .kgs (360º)
4. Kevin Drumm - Sheer Hellish Miasma (Mego)
5. Kaffe Matthews, Andrea Neumann, Sachiko M - In Case of Fire (IMJ)
6. Double Leopards - A Pebble in Thousands... (Eclipse)
7. Otomo Yoshihide - Ensemble Cathode (IJM)
8. Polwechsel & Fennesz - Wrapped Islands (Erstwhile)
9. William Basinski - The River (Raster/Noton)
10. various artists - Infernal Proteus (The AJNA Offensive)

reissues:
1. Takehisa Kosugi - Catch-Wave (Showboat)
2. Berrocal/Coster/Ferret - Musiq Musik (Fractal)
3. Träd, Gräs och Stenar - Mors Mors and Djungelns Lag (1/2 Special Skivor & Trams)
4. H.N.A.S. - Melchior, Abwassermusik, Im Schatten der Möhre, Küttel im Frost (Dom)
5. Organum - Sphyx (Robot)
6. Ramleh - Too Many Miles (Dirter)
7. Les Rallizes Denudés - Heavier than a Death in the Family (AGS)
8. Group 1850 - Paradise Now (Free)
9. Taj-Mahal Travellers - 15 July 1972 (Showboat)
10. Seeselberg - Synthetik 1 (Plate Lunch)

― summerslastsound (summerslastsound), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

fucking hardcore?

― hstencil, Friday, 14 February 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Yo, Jess -- feel free to take my ballot from the VV site. It'd be nice to know that someone else will bring in votes for Otomo Yoshihide and the Sachiko M etc. albums.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

forgot about points.
25 to MIMEO/Tilbury; 15 to Tape; 7.5 ea. to 3-10.

― summerslastsound (summerslastsound), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Soulwax - 2 Many DJs (25)
Lambchop - Is A Woman (20)
The Streets - Original Pirate Material (10)
Death In Vegas - Scorpio Rising (10)
Medicine8 - Ironstylings (10)
Akufen - My Way (5)
Queens of the Stone Age(5)
MRI - All That Glitters (5)
Boards of Canda - Geogaddi (5)
Low - Trust (5)

Singles -

Cosmos - Take Me With You
Truth Hurts - Addictive
Bangalter and Falcon - So Much Love To Give
Medicine8 - Capital Rocka
Sugababes - Freak Like Me
Missy Elliott - Work It
Lemon Jelly - Spacewalk
Massive Attack and Mos Def - I Against I
Aaliyah - More Than A Woman
Akufen - Deck The House

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Albums

1. Sonic Youth - Murray Street (20)
2. Bob Drake - The Skull Mailbox (16)
3. John Zorn - IAO (14)
4. Yohimbe Brothers - Front End Lifter (12)
5. Rovo - Tonic 2001 (10)
6. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (8)
7. Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow (8)
8. Astrobotnia - Part One (6)
9. Of Montreal - Aldhil's Arboretum (4)
10. Max Tundra - Mastered by Guy at the Exchange (2)

Singles

1. Missy Elliot - "Work It"
2. Brandy - "What About Us"
3. Scooter - "Ramp (The Logical Song)"
4. Tweet - "Oops Oh My!"
5. Nore - "Nothin"
6. Avril Lavigne - "Sk8er Boi"
7. Tim McGraw - "Red Rag Top"
8. Eminem - "Cleaning Out My Closet"
9. Outkast - "The Whole World"
10. Mystikal - "Bouncing Back"

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 14 February 2003 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Shut up.

Interpol - "Turn on the Bright Lights" (30)
Do Make Say Think - "& Yet & Yet" (10)
...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead - "Source Tags & Codes" (10)
Wilco - "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" (10)
Mum - "Finally We Are No One" (10)
Archer Prewitt - "Three" (10)
Pretty Girls Make Graves - "Good Health" (5)
Notwist - "Neon Golden" (5)
Flaming Lips - "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots" (5)
Enon - "High Society" (5)

No singles.

― jaymc, Friday, 14 February 2003 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

fucking hardcore?

Meaning that you listen to all this stuff that sounds like it'd be really cool but I've never even heard of it. Sorry about the wording, I was really tired.

― Dan i., Friday, 14 February 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Albums/Sets:

Derek Bailey - Ballads (25)

Fred Frith - Freedom In Fragments (15)

Andrew WK - I Get Wet (15)

Keith Rowe and Oren Ambarchi - Flypaper (9)

Lungbutter - Dr Rush's 'Tranquilizer' (8)

Jean Derome et Joane Hetu - La vie, c'est simple (7)

Jimi Hendrix - Blue Wild Angel: Jimi Hendrix Live
At the Isle of Wight (7)

Django Reinhardt - Hall Of Fame (5-CD set) (6)

Rush - Vapor Trails (4)

Francisco Lopez - Untitled #123 (4)

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 14 February 2003 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

(James, Julio, everyone who missed voting for Bailey in the ILx poll, now's your chance.)

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 14 February 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Sundar, you'd give the tame, dull Rowe/Ambarchi the nod over the exciting, absolutely consequential MIMEO/Tilbury? i'm at a loss...

― summerslastsound (summerslastsound), Friday, 14 February 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

you KNOW no one heard it until 2002

Except for thousands of American teens and pre-teens and their parents and me and Metal Mike Saunders (i.e., "A.M. to P.M." in heavy rotation on Radio Disney in 2001).

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 14 February 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

At last!!!! God bless you Jess

Albums:

1) Avril Lavigne - Let Go (15)
2) Komeit - Falling into Place (12)
3) Juniper Moon - El Resto De Mi Vida (11)
4) Pop-off Tuesday - Pop Ahoy (5)
5) Sinking Ships - Out of Key Harmony (5)
6) Shakira - Laundry Service (12)
7) Vacaciones - Sonrier (10)
8) Sum 41 - Does This Look Infected? (5)
9) Ms John Soda - No P or D (10)
10) Poison - Hollyweird (15)

Singles

1) Avril - complicated
2) Romeo & Christina Milian - It's All Gravy
3) Girls Aloud - Sound of the Underground
4) Vanessa Carlton - A Thousand Miles
5) Milky - Just the Way You Are
6) TATU - All The Things She Said
7) Shakira - Underneath Your Clothes
8) Alien Ant Farm - Movies
9) Bowling For Soup - Girl All The Bad Guys Want
10) Sum 41 - Still Waiting

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 14 February 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

summerslastsound: I've never even heard of that album. What is it? I regret that I couldn't vote for Suspension. But Flypaper has really grown on me. There are some subtle things going on in it, some really nice resonances. And maybe some not-so-subtle things - I had it on loud one night when I went to sleep. My housemate told me the next day that he was scared to come downstairs to get his laundry because it sounded like the basement was haunted. I have no trouble believing that better drone records came out though.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 14 February 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Decided not to repeat my P&J ballot, so "singles" here are non-focus tracks except for "B R Right" which didn't come into focus until too late. Albums are some of my P&J near misses (except that the Cornerstone mix would have made my P&J ballot until I disqualified it for being promo only and to make room for the Gore Gore Girls, whose butts are cuter than Pete's).

SINGLES:
Rocket from the Tombs "30 Seconds Over Tokyo"
Rocket from the Tombs "Sonic Reducer"
LeAnn Rimes "No Way Out"
Celine Dion "When the Wrong One Loves You Right"
Ugly Casanova "Diamonds on the Face of Evil"
Lifter Puller "Secret Santa Cruz"
Drive By Truckers "Birmingham"
Toby Keith "That's Not How It Is"
Trina featuring Ludacris "B R Right"
Pretty Suicide "Fruit"

ALBUMS:
Pete Rock & DJ Goldfinger Cornerstone Mixtape #36 13
M2M The Big Room 10
Oneida Each One Teach One 10
Oxes Oxxxes 10
Gentlemen of Leisure Gentlemen of Leisure 10
Eminem The Eminem Show 10
Brazen Hussies Ya-Ba 10
Sharp-Dressed Men: A Tribute to ZZ Top 9
Montgomery Gentry Our Town 9
Drive By Truckers Southern Rock Opera 9

After we tabulate, we should vote on the best song to be sung by Elmer Fudd. I will vote for "When the Wrong One Loves You Right."

By the way:
"When The Wrong One Loves You Right With A Butcher Knife"
"That's Not How It Is In The Shower"

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 14 February 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Oneida were great when I saw them. I want to get that album.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 14 February 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i will close voting on tues. at midnight

Seattle time or Aleutian Islands time?

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 14 February 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Max Tundra - Mastered by Guy at the Exchange
2. Tok Tok vs. Soffy O - (s/t 2 x 12" LP)
3. Sugababes - Angels with Dirty Faces
4. Golden Boy with Miss Kittin - Or
5. Schneider TM - Zoomer
6. Ms. John Soda - No P or D
7. Saint Etienne - Finisterre
8. Justin Timberlake - Justified
9. Russian Futurists - Let's Get Ready to Crumble
10. Akufen - My Way

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 14 February 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I was trying to think up a singles list off the top of my head and this is what I wrote down:

1. Brandy, "Full Moon"
2. Adult., "Don't Stop"
3. Brandy, "Full Moon"
4. The Streets, "Has It Come to This?"
5. Brandy, "Full Moon"
6. Toktok vs. Soffy O, "Jean"
5. Bis, "Robotic"
7. Brandy, "Full Moon"
8. Nivea, "Don't Mess With My Man"
9. Death in Vegas w/ Adult., "Hands Around my Throat"
10. Brandy, "Full Moon"

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 14 February 2003 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Sundar, Rowe believes that improvised electronic music can and should aspire to the emotional and artistic heights of the Classical canon. To this effect, he conceived MIMEO, the Movement in Music Electronic Orchestra, a collective of (mostly European) electro-acoustic improvisers, and essentially the next evolutionary step in the lineage of AMM and MEV. Among the MIMEO members are such "name" musicians as Christian Fennesz, Peter Rehberg, Marcus Schmickler, Kevin Drumm (occasionally), and Rowe himself. What makes MIMEO so special is the players' complete willingness to surrender ego in the interest of group identity. Having achieved selflessness over the course of MIMEO's many concert-oriented convocations, MIMEO has been struggling with the secondary problem of focusing its massed electro-acoustic arsenal. Rowe experimented with alternative spatial and temporal parameters (24-hour concerts, quadrophonic PA systems), but it was only with "Caravaggio," that he finally found an effective solution.

Rowe brought in his AMM comrade, pianist John Tilbury, as a featured soloist, with MIMEO providing concerto-form support. But rather than revert to Classical conventions, Rowe tweaked the formula. MIMEO's twelve musicians were instructed to support Tilbury (whose performance was entirely improvised), tempering their soundmaking so as never to overwhelm the piano. An player known for his extraordinary sensitivity and subtlety, Tilbury entered the arrangement fully aware that any one of the MIMEO electro-acousticians could have obliterated his piano from the soundfield with the flick of a switch or the click of a mouse, but he did not 'harden' his performance to compensate. Knowing this, Rowe added yet another potentially vexing variable: Gert-Jan Prins, playing the inner mechanics of Tilbury's piano, attempting to thwart the pianist by anticipating his turns of improvised phrase.

The concert recorded and presented on the Erstwhile CD proceeded thusly, with MIMEO, Tilbury and Prins all focused on a single theme: the striking chiaroscuro effect Caravaggio had employed in his depiction of Jesus' hands in the (then) recently discovered "The Taking of Christ."

Which brings us to the recording itself, MIMEO's most successful effort to date (IMHO), and thefore a crucial, exciting bound forward for the state of electro-acoustic improvisation. I'll venture that it's a triumph for music in a more general sense, proving that electronics, when handled with skill, can strive for (and attain) the emotional complexity and gravity of more traditional instrumentation. MIMEO held its own as an undeniably musical entity, even alongside the profoundly human presence of Tilbury and his 88 unamplified keys. The success of a venture like "Caravaggio" (and Otomo Yoshihide's "Ensemble Cathode") opens up whole new worlds of possibility for further intrepid exploration. Let the Golden Age of Electro-Acoustic Improvisation begin!

― summerslastsound (summerslastsound), Friday, 14 February 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Albums:
1. Peanut Butter Wolf - The Forty Five Series
2. El-P - Fantastic Damage
3. Stones Throw White Label (ft. unreleased Charizma and Madlib)
4. J-Live - All of the Above
5. DJ Shadow - Private Press
6. Busdriver – Temporary Forever
7. D-Styles – Phantazmagorea
8. DJ /Rupture – Minesweeper Suite
9. RJD2 – Deadringer
10. Nas – God’s Son

Singles:
1. Scarface, My Block
2. Nas, Made You Look
3. Dudely Perkins, Flowers
4. Quasimoto, Astronaut
5. Nas, Doo Rags
6. Clipse, Grindin’
7. Freeway, Line Em Up
8. Eric Sermon, React
9. Missy, Work it
10. Cam’ron, Oh Boy

― S>C>, Friday, 14 February 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Sounds good, summerslastsound. I'll look into it.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 14 February 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah sundar MIMEO are great. they've got a double Cd on grob and another single Cd on perdition plastics as well.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 14 February 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

albums:

1. Boom Selection_Issue 01 (Boom Selection import) 30
2. The Streets: Original Pirate Material (Vice) 30
3. Sleater-Kinney: One Beat (Kill Rock Stars) 5
4. 2 Many DJ’s: As Heard on Radio Soulwax Pt. 1 (Waxed Soul promo import) 5
5. The Best of Boom Selector Vol. 2 (bootleg) 5
6. Clipse: Lord Willin’ (Star Trak) 5
7. Playgroup: Party-Mix Vol. One (Playgroup promo) 5
8. 2 Many DJ’s: As Heard on Radio Soulwax Pt. 3 (Waxed Soul promo import) 5
9. 2 Many DJ’s: As Heard on Radio Soulwax Pt. 2 (Pias import) 5
10. The Best Bootlegs in the World Ever (No Label import) 5

Singles:
1. Kylie Minogue: “Love at First Sight” (Capitol)
2. The Streets: “Let’s Push Things Forward” (Vice)
3. Shakedown: “At Night” (Defective, UK)
4. Lo Fidelity Allstars: “Feel What I Feel” (Skint/Columbia)
5. The Streets: “Weak Become Heroes” (Vice)
6. Freelance Hellraiser: “Smells Like Booty” (No Label, UK)
7. The Hives: “Hate to Say I Told You So” (Sire/Burning Heart/Epitaph)
8. Pink: “Don’t Let Me Get Me” (Arista)
9. Clipse: “Young Boy” (Star Trak)
10. Freelance Hairdresser: "Marshall’s Been Snookered" (BoomSelection.com)

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 14 February 2003 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Matos, isn't the "Marshall's Been Snookered" thing a one-joke poke? I mean, you hear it once, ha ha ha blackface minstrelry--what else is left? (This is a real question. Maybe it's been addressed elsewhere.)

― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 14 February 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

has anyone's list changed since the ILx survey?

― g (graysonlane), Friday, 14 February 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I tinkered with my album list a bit, added the points, and added the singles list.

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 14 February 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

did i really say Gert-Jan Prins? meant Cor Fuhler, of course. couldn't race home fast enough to fix that one. grr... argh...

― summerslastsound, Friday, 14 February 2003 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

better watch out, sss, or I'll write some really nasty post!

― hstencil, Friday, 14 February 2003 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yr right amateurist i'll change my vote right now god what was i thinking? thanks so much for setting me straight

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 14 February 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

or: Amateurist, isn't your post one-note pedantry? I mean, you don't like a record I do, ha ha ha confusion and disagreement--what are you proving by pushing it in my face? (This is also a real question. Maybe it's been addressed elsewhere.)

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 14 February 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Albums

1. 90 Day Men - To Everybody - Southern (20 points)
2. Hella - Hold Your Horse Is - 5RC (10 points)
3. And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead - Source Tags & Codes - Interscope (10 points)
4. Michael Mayer - Immer - Kompakt (10 points)
5. Various Artists - Chains & Black Exhaust - Jones (10 points)
6. The Streets - Original Pirate Material - Vice (10 points)
7. Metro Area - Metro Area - Environ (10 points)
8. The Clipse - Lord Willin'- Arista (10 points)
9. Thomas Fehlmann - Visions of Blah - Kompakt (5 points)
10. Isis - Oceanic - Ipecac (5 points)

Singles

1. Rapture - "House of Jealous Lovers" - DFA
2. Secret Machines - "It's a Bad Wind That Don't Blow Somebody Some Good" - Ace Fu
3. LCD Soundsystem - "Losing My Edge" - DFA
4. Missy Elliot - "Work It" - MCA
5. Nappy Roots - "Aw Naw" - Atlantic
6. Nivea - "Don't Mess With My Man" - Jive
7. DJ Shadow - "Six Days" - MCA
8. Justin Timberlake - "Cry Me a River" - Jive
9. Clipse - "Grindin'" - Arista
10. 50 Cent- "Wanksta" - Interscope

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 14 February 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahaha I was all like "wow I really like Yanc3y's list" and then I was all "WANKSTA????"

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 14 February 2003 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Wanksta's great!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 14 February 2003 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

You'll just have to be content with the fact that I like most everything else on there.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 14 February 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

"Wanksta" grew on me very much recently. still dont' like the album, though (either 8 Mile or 50 Cent's)

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 14 February 2003 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay. Thanks, Nitsuh. I like yours too.

I still haven't heard the 50 Cent record. I was excited about it until "In Da Club," which is so fucking dull.

Oh, have you heard the Nivea song yet, Matos? If not, I'm going to put it on your birthday mix.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 14 February 2003 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

''(James, Julio, everyone who missed voting for Bailey in the ILx poll, now's your chance.)''

Well I did vote on one poll (I sent it to Todd and he put my top ten in some other thread which i cannot find).

as i can't remember the exact order I'll just say that

Anthony braxton: Solo (koln) 1978 is no1
and derek bailey's ballads is no2

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 14 February 2003 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Matos: OK, put another way: In my opinion, there wasn't much to the song aside from the novelty of putting Eminem in a context where he evoked a blackface minstrel.

By "this is a real question" I just meant, I honestly want to know what you heard in it. I realize that probably wasn't what came across at all. Because I was being an ass.

(I like "Wanksta" too, at least at the moment.)

― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 14 February 2003 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Albums:

Dat Politics - Plugs Plus (24)
KG - Greatest Hits (22)
Sonic Dragolgo - Don't Stop the Music (13)
Lucky Dragons - Dark Falcon (13)
Deerhoof - Reveille (10)
Blood Brothers - March On Electric Children (8)
Xiu Xiu - Knife Play (4)
Seiichi Yamamoto - Crown of Fuzzy Groove (3)
Xinlisupreme - Tomorrow Never Comes (2)
Pipas - A Cat Escaped (1)

Singles:

Andrew WK - I Get Wet
Apples (in Stereo) - Baroque
Big Tymers - Still Fly
Bis - The End Starts Today (Glasgow summer freestyle mix)
Dat Politics - Pie
Dntel - (This Is) The Dream of Evan and Chan
Max Tundra - Lights
Mirah - Cold Cold Water
Ms. John Soda - Go Check
Tatu - Not Gonna Get Us

― Miranda, Friday, 14 February 2003 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Amateurist: you are aware of course that blackface minstrels and ragtime music DIDN'T usually go together? Indeed by the time ragtime rolled around blackface was almost historically dead as a cultural form, tho of course the stereotypes lasted far longer. The only place blackface and ragtime came head to head, as far as I know, is in early cartoons, & then it wasn't exactly blackface, because there was no white face underneath -- it was just racist sterotyping.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 15 February 2003 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)

So how ya doin' there, Miranda?

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 15 February 2003 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Amateurist, I think Em rides the "Snookered" piano better than the "Without Me" beat--it's looser-sounding, funnier as a piece of rhythm, and since the words are already great I enjoy them more here.

Sterling, the record works because it is a cartoon

― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 15 February 2003 00:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Only albums as I don't listen to singles, I am a rockist, n'est-ce pas Mark?

Montgolfier Brothers - The World Is Flat 20
Lambchop - Is A Woman 15
Tom Liwa - Two Originals 15
Hayden - Skyscraper National Park 8
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot 8
Mountain Goats - All Hail West Texas 8
Sixteen Horsepower - Folklore 8
Tom Waits - Alice 8
Sonic Youth - Murray Street 5
Suicide - American Supreme 5

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 15 February 2003 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

So how ya doin' there, Miranda?

Good now that I figured out how to get everything to add up to 100 (I did, didn't I?). And maybe not so good if punks don't start recognizing the excellence of that Dat Politics record. Or at least "Pie," "Tout Bleu" and "Pass Our Class." Wish I knew what to say to do some convincing (I just lurk and make the lists). Someone download those songs and then expound on their greatness here or elsewhere. Back to work for me.

― Miranda, Saturday, 15 February 2003 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

(Well Miranda my saying this probably won't help your cause but I think that's a gorgeous list and I'm weirdly jealous that it's not my own. The Sonic Dragolgo and the Big Tymers particularly. And then in the singles you had Bis and Max Tundra and Mirah and Ms. John Soda and I was touched.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 15 February 2003 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)

(I think "jealous its not my own" means "suddenly cannot think of why I picked the stuff I did instead." I look forward to tracking down everything on all future lists of yours.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 15 February 2003 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

harper lee 'everything is going to be ok' (15)
mum 'finally we are no one' (15)
kicker 'five forty-fives' (15)
greg davis 'arbor' (15)
pluxus 'european onion' (9)
demarnia lloyd 'set upon a curve' (8)
hunkey dory 'over the rainbow' (7)
july skies 'dreaming of spires' (6)
saturday looks good to me 's/t' (5)
malory 'outerbeats' (5)

― keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 15 February 2003 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Eskimo 1
2. Eskimo 2
3. Eskimo 3
4. Eskimo 4
5. Eskimo 5
6. Eskimo 6
7. Eskimo 7
8. Eskimo Money
9. Eskimo Problems
10. Avril Levigne - Eskiboi

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Saturday, 15 February 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

"Tout Bleu" is one of the most exhilarating songs I've ever heard! (can't track down the album, tho) I didn't even know there was a Sonic Dragolgo full length...

Albums
The Streets - Original Pirate Material (15)
Xiu Xiu - Knife Play (15)
The Mountain Goats - All Hail West Texas (15)
Max Tundra - Mastered by Guy at the Exchange (10)
Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons (10)
Lifter Puller - The Soft Rock (10)
Recloose - Cardiology (10)
The Roots - Phrenology (5)
SND - Tender Love (5)
Derek Bailey - Ballads (5)

Singles
Underworld - Two Months Off
Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River
Truth Hurts - Addictive
Shakedown - At Night
LCD Soundsystem - Losing My Edge
X-Press 2 - Lazy
Akufen - Deck the Halls
The Rapture - House of Jealous Lovers
Sum 41 - Still Waiting
Amerie - Why Don't We Fall in Love?

― Adam A. (Keiko), Saturday, 15 February 2003 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Deck the Halls, hahahahaaaaa..........

― Adam A. (Keiko), Saturday, 15 February 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm jealous of Miranda's list too (post more, please) and Yancey's list is pretty 'hello there' too (even if he did say 'woah dude, the oxes rekkid sucqs' at me, which I might slightly agree with now, but not really) AND... and he's right about Wanksta knightsuh: it's brilliant. Like his teeth are on the outside of his mouth or something.

― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 15 February 2003 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

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