ive never seen eight mile, though am amused to hear it described both as "rocky with all the stupid bits taken out" and "a star is born with more swearing". anything has to be better than almost famous though.
― speak_easy, Friday, 18 April 2003 03:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 April 2003 03:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Friday, 18 April 2003 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Friday, 18 April 2003 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)
Almost Famous wasn't bad. The director's cut is a great improvement. My first reaction to Kate Hudson's character was that she was over-acting (ala the last scene, where she leaves her sunglasses on the airline counter), but then I realized that the 16-year old groupie would be overly dramatic too.
I really want to see Cocksucker Blues. Robert Frank is a god to me, but no one in Texas ever screens his films (the one time a year he's allowed to screen Cocksucker Blues).
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 18 April 2003 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)
I weep.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 April 2003 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)
velvet goldmine was my introduction to the stooges and brian eno so it gets my vote.
― brian badword (badwords), Friday, 18 April 2003 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)
Now I weep....
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Friday, 18 April 2003 04:14 (twenty-two years ago)
i'm just glad i'm not still buying superchunk cds.
― brian badword (badwords), Friday, 18 April 2003 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Friday, 18 April 2003 04:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― original bgm, Friday, 18 April 2003 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― original bgm, Friday, 18 April 2003 05:22 (twenty-two years ago)
The Talking Heads movie...
― David Allen, Friday, 18 April 2003 05:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave q, Friday, 18 April 2003 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave q, Friday, 18 April 2003 11:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 18 April 2003 12:10 (twenty-two years ago)
Worst: sorry, but Ziggy Stardust. Nice outfits, I guess, but fairly ineptly directed and kind of a snooze. I guess it's the only way to see Bowie live in 1973 nowadays, but... no thanks.
And that Wilco movie.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 18 April 2003 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 18 April 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)
even though it's not exactly a music film I'd also like to give a shout out to Dogtown & Z-Boys for how well the music synchs up with the visuals and reminds you of how great KICK ASS ROCK N ROLL is!
― Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 18 April 2003 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― willem (willem), Friday, 18 April 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― christoff (christoff), Friday, 18 April 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Brandon Gentry (Brandon Gentry), Friday, 18 April 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)
Hedwig and the Angry Inch - because of the above and because it's simultaneously hysterical and incredibly sad. I don't know if it's the best because I have a nagging feeling that I'm forgetting something.
― disco stu (disco stu), Friday, 18 April 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― christoff (christoff), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)
Worst:Rad, the BMX movie from the eighties. Title song: John Farnham: Breaking The Ice. Uuuuuuuuuurgh ...
― Jay K (Jay K), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)
You are a wise, wise man.
I cannot overstate how much I hated that bullshit fuckin' movie
It wasn't a documentary = it can do whatever the fuck it liked.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)
I have a soft spot for all three films in Bruce McDonald's rock and roll roadtrip trilogy. Roadkill is pretty shaky but ultimately kinda cool; Highway 61 is a fantastic trip backwards through the history of rock, all along a single highway (and great cameos from Jello B, Art B and Tav F along the way, too!). Hard Core Logo has been called the punk rock Spinal Tap and that's quite possibly true...it's way nastier, funny but in a very real kind of way, and it shows a band imploding in a way that doesn't seem overly cartoonish. The hataz say "IT'S NOT REALLY PUNK WAHH WAHHH" but it definitely does have that Canadian left-coast early 80s slightly-metal punk thing DOWN. Great!
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)
I got to see Rude Boy, the Clash film, recently, and it is quite representative of when a band agrees to have a film made about them without seemingly having any input into what the film will be about, and the director justs makes the film in line with his own very particular vision of what the group "means", cf. It Couldn't Happen Here, the PSB film. There are lots of other examples but I can't think of them now. Rude Boy is certainly entertaining, but also strangely pointless.
Another vote for Fear of a Black Hat btw.
― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)
Has anyone ever seen Speed Racer, the doc. on Vic Chesnutt? I want to see it, but don't know where to get it.
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)
More votes for best:Stop Making SenseDecline of Western Civilization Part 1, but especially part 2! I can't believe neither of these has been mentioned yet.Space is the Place (Sun Ra's 70s blaxploitation sci-fi film)The Isle of Wight documentary - great anarchic hippies vs. ego-bloated rich rockstar drama!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 April 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)
Storefront Hitchcock is also good, in a Jonathan Demme kinda way
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And I was a bit unimpressed with 24 hour party people (gasp!)
― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 18 April 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)
I loved Velvet Goldmine, though you'd never catch the teenage me jerking off to the inner sleeve of Alladin Sane. Gross! Actually, my friend Jim, the guy who wrote it with Todd Haynes, said his mother really did walk in on him doing just that! I was amazed, it's like the least sexy photo ever. Anyway, the part at the beginning with all the kids running to the concert to the tune of "Needles in the Camel's Eye" is the most thrilling scene in a rock movie ever. And it reminds me of the final Sleaze Sisters show in Times Square.
― Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 18 April 2003 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 18 April 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 18 April 2003 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 18 April 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 18 April 2003 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 18 April 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 April 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― saira eversett, Friday, 18 April 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)
There are no murders in Citizen Kane. And even if there were, I disagree. I don't think that worked at all. It was as confused as it was confusing.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 18 April 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Carey (Carey), Friday, 18 April 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)
Ahh semantics, the true love of all ILMers. I used Citizen Kane to denote the post-mortem investigative aspect of the plot. I didn't mean to imply there was literally a murder in Citizen Kane. There isn't actually a murder in Velvet Goldmine either, in case you were paying attention.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 April 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― yellow, Friday, 18 April 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)
otherwise agree with majority comments on spinal tap and rude boy...
― kieron, Friday, 18 April 2003 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)
But this is what makes it great!
I liked Backbeat and The Filth and the Fury also.
― nickn (nickn), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)
best: A Hard Day's Night.
― mosurock (mosurock), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)
Like, wow, make fun of metal bands. The film equivalent of Lewinsky jokes.
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 19 April 2003 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― theodore fogelsanger, Saturday, 19 April 2003 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 19 April 2003 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)
Lose the zero and get with the hero
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 19 April 2003 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)
It was called "simultaneously the best and worst movie ever made" by Film Threat, so it fits both categories in the thread title.
Beyond the Valley of the Dolls - the greatest pop music film EVER?
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Saturday, 19 April 2003 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)
...and what about Beatstreet?
― Brandon Ivers (Brandon Ivers), Sunday, 20 April 2003 07:35 (twenty-two years ago)
Also, Bird. Amazingly great.
― Catherine (Catherine), Sunday, 20 April 2003 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― matt riedl (veal), Sunday, 20 April 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)
PJ Soles! Paul Bartel! Mary Woronov!
oh, and the Ramones.
― Sean (Sean), Sunday, 20 April 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)
Oh, and Fear of a Black Hat is great too. That Thing You Do really pisses me off cos that kid who plays the male lead looks exactly like Tom Hanks, I was half expecting the "Luke, I AM your father" scene between the two of them.
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 April 2003 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)
The Filth and the Fury is entertaining, as Behind the Music-style documentaries go, but it's also a lame cleaned-up version of a really interesting story. (I think the only people I trust to talk about the Sex Pistols and not make me hiss and spit "THAT'S NOT RIGHT, GODDAMMIT!" at the screen or page are Jon Savage, Gr*il M*rc*s and mark s) (you'll notice I don't include any of the Pistols themselves in that list)
I thought Velvet Goldmine was one of the most irritating things I'd ever watched, but I know a lot more about glam more now so I might like it now.
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 21 April 2003 07:54 (twenty-two years ago)
Yeah! will Lydon ever discuss that period without being an unamusing dickwad.
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Monday, 21 April 2003 08:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Monday, 21 April 2003 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Monday, 21 April 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 21 April 2003 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)
Considering when it came out--before hair band saturation--the topic could hardly be considered passe.
― oops (Oops), Monday, 21 April 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Monday, 21 April 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Monday, 21 April 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)
Says who?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 21 April 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Monday, 21 April 2003 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Monday, 21 April 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)
all very, very bad.
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Monday, 21 April 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dadaismus, Monday, 21 April 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005RYL7.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 21 April 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― H (Heruy), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)
What, it's not a music movie?
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)
"Leathermen NEVER get nervous! Leathermen NEVER get nervous!"
― Neudonym, Monday, 21 April 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― mike a (mike a), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)
"New York is the city with gusto..."
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.horror-wood.com/paradi13.jpg
the best music BUSINESS movie of all time, certainly.
― david day (winslow), Monday, 21 April 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 21 April 2003 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― slutsky (slutsky), Monday, 21 April 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 21 April 2003 23:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 21 April 2003 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)
The Book of Days, the Meredith Monk film from the early 90s - any IlMer or ILMeress actually seen it?
― t''t, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)
Not sure if We Are the Best! has officially opened over here or not--I don't think so. A little precious in spots, but quite good. My main complaint would be of a rock-critic nature: the soundtrack (not what the three girls play, but the stuff they listen to that's supposed to stand in for punk rock) is not very good. It's basically a generic imitation--maybe the filmmaker was afraid that using LiLiPUT would overwhelm everything else. (The song over the end credits is pretty good.) Everything else, especially the three girls--Hedvig was my favourite--is fine. Actually deals in a subtle way with a punk-rock dilemma, at least one that was lurking there in '77 and '78: at what point does good musicianship become a necessity rather than some kind of betrayal? When the band plays some out-the-way community hall at the end, I swear it's an inspired recreation of the Sex Pistols in Texas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfPytPjV1xc
― clemenza, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 02:20 (eleven years ago)
"The Apple" is both best and worst.
― Bloomington After Dark, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 02:59 (eleven years ago)