What CD in your collection most needs remastering?

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"Sign O' The Times" by Prince has a muted sound with no juice whatsoever...I can barely include any tracks from it on mix discs for fear of killer volume drop-off. But that's the first example to come to mind...what about yours?

Erick H (Erick H), Friday, 18 April 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

If you play "Exile on Main Street" through headphones, you keep wanting to get a q-tip and clean out yer ears.
"...and Justice for All" needs some audible bass. The drums sound like hitting an aluminum pie-plate with a dull pencil.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 18 April 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Paul's Boutique is awful quiet and hissy for such a boisterous album.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 18 April 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

The entire Killing Joke catalogue.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 18 April 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"Naturally" JJ Cale

rumpelstiltskin, Friday, 18 April 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

"...and Justice for All" needs some audible bass

The LP sounds like that, too.

Sean (Sean), Friday, 18 April 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Taking sides: MP3 compression (and level volumes) vs up-and-down volume issues (and no compression)

Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 18 April 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

first mention of jj cale on ILM? i love naturally.

Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 April 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Buzzcocks - Singles Going Steady

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 18 April 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Um

Album You'd Most Like To See Remastered

Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 April 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I second "Exile....".

Only trouble is, it has already been remastered. :-(

Personally, I would say Japan's "Tin Drum" and "Gentlemen Take Polaroids" are in serious need of a remaster job.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 18 April 2003 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

The Psychedelic Sounds of the Thirteenth Floor Elevators

xnelio, Friday, 18 April 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

well this is probably best reserved for a JJ Cale thread but has anybody ever heard the "Jaurez Blues" song he did under the alias Juan & Maria that was a Shelter LP giveaway single?

sublime. Cale is the greatest and due for a real retrospective, not that crap 2-CD set with liner notes by Colin "I'm an insufferable bore" Escott. There's a lot of unreleased & b-sides floating around on him, sigh

anybody catch his comments in "shakey"? on Cobain: "the kid could play guitar." as minimal as his music, I was amused

rumpelstiltskin, Friday, 18 April 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)


gosh darin troubleman mixtape... which they did remaster but you couldn't get a new one unless you tried hard.
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msp, Friday, 18 April 2003 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf400/f488/f48896o8oly.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay. joking.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

You mean that's not you in the sunglasses at the back?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Nah, that's Doug. i'm the one in the hat.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

the CD version of dolly mixture's "demonstration tapes" and jandek's "blue corpse" both suffer from terrible noise reduction and could stand to be remastered, since the vinyl versions of each are superior.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't tell me that about the Jandek, Jim. Now I am afeared.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)

on the Jandek, it doesn't sound awful, but the noise reduction is noticeable (which in my book, is kinda terrible)

the DM is pitiful, though. I couldn't believe it when I got the vinyl.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Saturday, 19 April 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I second Sign O The Times, also 3ft High And Rising by De La Soul... always an annoyingly quiet pressing...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Saturday, 19 April 2003 08:30 (twenty-two years ago)

3ft High And Rising by De La Soul... always an annoyingly quiet pressing...

That was remastered and reissued with a bonus disc of 12" mixes less than two years ago.

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 19 April 2003 09:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Taking sides: MP3 compression (and level volumes) vs up-and-down volume issues (and no compression)

But MP3 'compression' is data reduction, not what's commonly understood in audio circles as compression (squashing the peaks of a recording and applying make-up gain to increase the overall level).

MP3s are surely as prone to variable volume levels as the tracks from which they were sourced?

If a track sounds weedy next to its intended neighbours on a comp, I tend to stick it through SoundForge or CoolEdit and hard-limit it by a few dB.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 19 April 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Re 3ft High And Rising: That was remastered and reissued with a bonus disc of 12" mixes less than two years ago.

I know, I bought it and it's still way, way quiet...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Saturday, 19 April 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

daydream nation by SY.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 19 April 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

The first 3 albums from Fischer-Z (and added b-sides, please! I'm craving for "Right Hand Men")

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Saturday, 19 April 2003 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

ten months pass...
- Steeleye Span's "Below The Salt" - though apparently available in a much better-sounding version which I have never seen for sale.

- Sly & The Family Stone's "Stand" - you do have to turn the volume up rather loud.

- The Pogues' "Rum, Sodomy & The Lash" really needs all the instruments to be audible - mostly one can only hear the vocals and guitars.

- My Bloody Valentine's "Isn't Anything" and "Loveless" (especially the former) need some real sharpening of sound without sacrifcing the richness.

- Laurie Anderson's "Big Science" sounds very blunt.

Julien Peter Benney, Thursday, 19 February 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Public Enemy's first three records.
All the Sly & the Family Stone records (esp. There's A Riot Going On
Big Black needs to do something about their CDs too, although I suppose I could just buy the vinyl.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 February 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Makin' Time - Rythm And Soul (vinyl)

eleki-san (eleki-san), Thursday, 19 February 2004 07:08 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

why do any albums 'need' remastering? to make them sound all superSUPER loud? if youre that worried about the levels being low, if you have recording levels on your cd burner or burning program, you can adjust them yourself.

titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 15 October 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)

Remastering doesn't always mean making things superloud.

dlp9001, Monday, 15 October 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

The Chameleons _Script Of The Bridge_ really could use remastering as it was a very early CD and probably used vinyl mastering settings.

Mr. Odd, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:07 (eighteen years ago)

I'd like to see the Cocteau Twins' catalogue (re-)remastered by someone whose name isn't Robin Guthrie.

hawth, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:17 (eighteen years ago)

Modern Life is Rubbish / Blur.

Listen to the intro of Star Shaped on cd or mp3 and tell me something's not up there.

pisces, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

The Embarrassment's Heydey retrospective: the worst-sounding cd ever.

nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:29 (eighteen years ago)

pil - second edition

abanana, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:36 (eighteen years ago)

My band's album.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:47 (eighteen years ago)

After having lost my copy of the second disc to Heydey, I just got the entire CD back at a friend's stoop sale and listened for the first time in years. It does sound as harsh as I remember and it wasn't untill ILX I realized it could sound any different. Still dying to hear the real thing. Forgot how much I liked some of those songs.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 03:28 (eighteen years ago)

New Order - PCL

and fix the track order, plz.

poortheatre, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 03:30 (eighteen years ago)

so tough could use a boost or two

impudent harlot, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 04:00 (eighteen years ago)

Funkadelic - Free Your Mind, And Your Ass Shall Follow

Its criminal what the CD version does to Funky Dollar Bill.

Siah Alan, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 04:14 (eighteen years ago)

why do any albums 'need' remastering? to make them sound all superSUPER loud? if youre that worried about the levels being low, if you have recording levels on your cd burner or burning program, you can adjust them yourself.

One reason is because some albums were given terrible transfers from vinyl to CD. The original Celtic Frost CDs are a good example; they sounded much worse than the LPs.

I wonder if, now that everything's digital, we might have a future for "downgrading" album, i.e. re-releasing stuff with less compression etc. I'm guessing "uhm, no, don't be an idiot."

I'd like to hear a remaster of Mingus' "Pithecanthropus Erectus", but I'm not sure if there's much that can be done with it. I've not heard the original LP though, just the reissued one, which is probably from the same master as the CD.

Øystein, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 04:33 (eighteen years ago)

I've got the Dolly Mixture CD ESOJ was talking about upthread and it does sound absolutely awful, I assumed it was just because it was a demo! There were rumours of a reissue a year or 2 ago but I don't think anything happened.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 09:16 (eighteen years ago)

Also that Embarrassment 2xCD - reissue that bastard now somebody please? I've been looking for that for years.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 09:17 (eighteen years ago)

Loveless.

And The Joshua Tree.

Matthew H, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 09:37 (eighteen years ago)

'cd'?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 09:50 (eighteen years ago)

Just make all the Beatles albums sound as good as Love, please. And fix Cocteau Twins. And the last two Embrace albums. And Shortwave Set. And these, damnit... http://www.amazon.co.uk/Recent-Records-That-Would-Be-Great-If-They-Were-Quieter/lm/R3B3E6JXJYMN7O/ref=cm_lm_pdp_title_full/202-4517098-6134246

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:04 (eighteen years ago)

Watusi and Saturnalia (and Mini). Finish the job!

DavidM, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)

Just got the remasters of the first Monkees albums. I want my Beatles albums to sound just as great as those!

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)

I would also like to see the Thompson Twins albums remastered, but I doubt that will ever happen as those albums will probably never be available in the shops again.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:25 (eighteen years ago)

Are Agharta and Pangea ever gonna get straight remastered re-releases?

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

is remastering going to be like haircuts, i.e. in 20 years will all these great new lush remasters sound dated and horrible?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:44 (eighteen years ago)

"The Nightfly" has yet to be remastered, no? I mean, it sounds great, like most digital recordings, but it still suffers from having that typical 80s CD sound.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:44 (eighteen years ago)

if youre that worried about the levels being low, if you have recording levels on your cd burner or burning program, you can adjust them yourself.

But why would one need to do that on an original CD? Shouldn't it be possible to actually listen to the original CD rather than burn it to somewhere else?

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 11:42 (eighteen years ago)

I've got the Dolly Mixture CD ESOJ was talking about upthread and it does sound absolutely awful, I assumed it was just because it was a demo! There were rumours of a reissue a year or 2 ago but I don't think anything happened.

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yeah, the label that was meant to be doing it fell off the face of the earth, evidently taking all the tapes with them?

the original vinyl isn't especially hi fi but sounds 100000x better than the royal mint reissue

electricsound, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 12:25 (eighteen years ago)

"But why would one need to do that on an original CD? Shouldn't it be possible to actually listen to the original CD rather than burn it to somewhere else?"

have people forgotten about something called a volume knob? i know when making comps, its annoying to have to keep turning it up, but if youre just making a comp via your mp3s, then you could always just normalise the levels.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:00 (eighteen years ago)

Funkadelic - Free Your Mind, And Your Ass Shall Follow

It was reissued about a year ago. Major improvement over the original Westbound CD, which was the quietest-mastered CD I'd ever heard...and that includes my Webern CDs.

(Don't worry, the reissue isn't super-brickwalled or anything.)

Sara Sara Sara, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

Are Agharta and Pangea ever gonna get straight remastered re-releases?

Supposedly there's a 70s live box in the works...so like with all Miles reissues, we gotta wait at least 6 months until after the box is out for the remastered individual discs to be released.

Sara Sara Sara, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

have people forgotten about something called a volume knob?

Portable CD players these days are so preoccupied with protecting their customers' hearing that turning up 80s CDs sufficiently is just not possible.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 25 October 2007 09:33 (eighteen years ago)

But if you are going to decide that you have to listen on crappy equipment, that that's really the best way for you to hear your favorite music, then maybe it's better for you to adapt the cds to that environment rather than hoping that record companies will boost the volume and quash the dynamics in order to suit your equipment. (My fantasy: that they aren't going to do that anyway.) Or get a headphone preamp.

These Robust Cookies, Thursday, 25 October 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)


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