― Erick H (Erick H), Friday, 18 April 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 18 April 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 18 April 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 18 April 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― rumpelstiltskin, Friday, 18 April 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)
The LP sounds like that, too.
― Sean (Sean), Friday, 18 April 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 18 April 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 April 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 18 April 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)
Album You'd Most Like To See Remastered
― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 April 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)
Only trouble is, it has already been remastered. :-(
Personally, I would say Japan's "Tin Drum" and "Gentlemen Take Polaroids" are in serious need of a remaster job.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 18 April 2003 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― xnelio, Friday, 18 April 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)
sublime. Cale is the greatest and due for a real retrospective, not that crap 2-CD set with liner notes by Colin "I'm an insufferable bore" Escott. There's a lot of unreleased & b-sides floating around on him, sigh
anybody catch his comments in "shakey"? on Cobain: "the kid could play guitar." as minimal as his music, I was amused
― rumpelstiltskin, Friday, 18 April 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― msp, Friday, 18 April 2003 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)
the DM is pitiful, though. I couldn't believe it when I got the vinyl.
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Saturday, 19 April 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Saturday, 19 April 2003 08:30 (twenty-two years ago)
That was remastered and reissued with a bonus disc of 12" mixes less than two years ago.
― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 19 April 2003 09:07 (twenty-two years ago)
But MP3 'compression' is data reduction, not what's commonly understood in audio circles as compression (squashing the peaks of a recording and applying make-up gain to increase the overall level).
MP3s are surely as prone to variable volume levels as the tracks from which they were sourced?
If a track sounds weedy next to its intended neighbours on a comp, I tend to stick it through SoundForge or CoolEdit and hard-limit it by a few dB.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 19 April 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)
I know, I bought it and it's still way, way quiet...
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Saturday, 19 April 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 19 April 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Saturday, 19 April 2003 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)
- Sly & The Family Stone's "Stand" - you do have to turn the volume up rather loud.
- The Pogues' "Rum, Sodomy & The Lash" really needs all the instruments to be audible - mostly one can only hear the vocals and guitars.
- My Bloody Valentine's "Isn't Anything" and "Loveless" (especially the former) need some real sharpening of sound without sacrifcing the richness.
- Laurie Anderson's "Big Science" sounds very blunt.
― Julien Peter Benney, Thursday, 19 February 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 February 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― eleki-san (eleki-san), Thursday, 19 February 2004 07:08 (twenty-one years ago)
why do any albums 'need' remastering? to make them sound all superSUPER loud? if youre that worried about the levels being low, if you have recording levels on your cd burner or burning program, you can adjust them yourself.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 15 October 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)
Remastering doesn't always mean making things superloud.
― dlp9001, Monday, 15 October 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)
The Chameleons _Script Of The Bridge_ really could use remastering as it was a very early CD and probably used vinyl mastering settings.
― Mr. Odd, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:07 (eighteen years ago)
I'd like to see the Cocteau Twins' catalogue (re-)remastered by someone whose name isn't Robin Guthrie.
― hawth, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:17 (eighteen years ago)
Modern Life is Rubbish / Blur.
Listen to the intro of Star Shaped on cd or mp3 and tell me something's not up there.
― pisces, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:25 (eighteen years ago)
The Embarrassment's Heydey retrospective: the worst-sounding cd ever.
― nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:29 (eighteen years ago)
pil - second edition
― abanana, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:36 (eighteen years ago)
My band's album.
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:47 (eighteen years ago)
After having lost my copy of the second disc to Heydey, I just got the entire CD back at a friend's stoop sale and listened for the first time in years. It does sound as harsh as I remember and it wasn't untill ILX I realized it could sound any different. Still dying to hear the real thing. Forgot how much I liked some of those songs.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 03:28 (eighteen years ago)
New Order - PCL
and fix the track order, plz.
― poortheatre, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 03:30 (eighteen years ago)
so tough could use a boost or two
― impudent harlot, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 04:00 (eighteen years ago)
Funkadelic - Free Your Mind, And Your Ass Shall Follow
Its criminal what the CD version does to Funky Dollar Bill.
― Siah Alan, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 04:14 (eighteen years ago)
One reason is because some albums were given terrible transfers from vinyl to CD. The original Celtic Frost CDs are a good example; they sounded much worse than the LPs.
I wonder if, now that everything's digital, we might have a future for "downgrading" album, i.e. re-releasing stuff with less compression etc. I'm guessing "uhm, no, don't be an idiot."
I'd like to hear a remaster of Mingus' "Pithecanthropus Erectus", but I'm not sure if there's much that can be done with it. I've not heard the original LP though, just the reissued one, which is probably from the same master as the CD.
― Øystein, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 04:33 (eighteen years ago)
I've got the Dolly Mixture CD ESOJ was talking about upthread and it does sound absolutely awful, I assumed it was just because it was a demo! There were rumours of a reissue a year or 2 ago but I don't think anything happened.
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 09:16 (eighteen years ago)
Also that Embarrassment 2xCD - reissue that bastard now somebody please? I've been looking for that for years.
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 09:17 (eighteen years ago)
Loveless.
And The Joshua Tree.
― Matthew H, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 09:37 (eighteen years ago)
'cd'?
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 09:50 (eighteen years ago)
Just make all the Beatles albums sound as good as Love, please. And fix Cocteau Twins. And the last two Embrace albums. And Shortwave Set. And these, damnit... http://www.amazon.co.uk/Recent-Records-That-Would-Be-Great-If-They-Were-Quieter/lm/R3B3E6JXJYMN7O/ref=cm_lm_pdp_title_full/202-4517098-6134246
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:04 (eighteen years ago)
Watusi and Saturnalia (and Mini). Finish the job!
― DavidM, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)
Just got the remasters of the first Monkees albums. I want my Beatles albums to sound just as great as those!
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)
I would also like to see the Thompson Twins albums remastered, but I doubt that will ever happen as those albums will probably never be available in the shops again.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:25 (eighteen years ago)
Are Agharta and Pangea ever gonna get straight remastered re-releases?
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)
is remastering going to be like haircuts, i.e. in 20 years will all these great new lush remasters sound dated and horrible?
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:44 (eighteen years ago)
"The Nightfly" has yet to be remastered, no? I mean, it sounds great, like most digital recordings, but it still suffers from having that typical 80s CD sound.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 10:44 (eighteen years ago)
if youre that worried about the levels being low, if you have recording levels on your cd burner or burning program, you can adjust them yourself.
But why would one need to do that on an original CD? Shouldn't it be possible to actually listen to the original CD rather than burn it to somewhere else?
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 11:42 (eighteen years ago)
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yeah, the label that was meant to be doing it fell off the face of the earth, evidently taking all the tapes with them?
the original vinyl isn't especially hi fi but sounds 100000x better than the royal mint reissue
― electricsound, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 12:25 (eighteen years ago)
"But why would one need to do that on an original CD? Shouldn't it be possible to actually listen to the original CD rather than burn it to somewhere else?"
have people forgotten about something called a volume knob? i know when making comps, its annoying to have to keep turning it up, but if youre just making a comp via your mp3s, then you could always just normalise the levels.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:00 (eighteen years ago)
It was reissued about a year ago. Major improvement over the original Westbound CD, which was the quietest-mastered CD I'd ever heard...and that includes my Webern CDs.
(Don't worry, the reissue isn't super-brickwalled or anything.)
― Sara Sara Sara, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)
Supposedly there's a 70s live box in the works...so like with all Miles reissues, we gotta wait at least 6 months until after the box is out for the remastered individual discs to be released.
― Sara Sara Sara, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)
have people forgotten about something called a volume knob?
Portable CD players these days are so preoccupied with protecting their customers' hearing that turning up 80s CDs sufficiently is just not possible.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 25 October 2007 09:33 (eighteen years ago)
But if you are going to decide that you have to listen on crappy equipment, that that's really the best way for you to hear your favorite music, then maybe it's better for you to adapt the cds to that environment rather than hoping that record companies will boost the volume and quash the dynamics in order to suit your equipment. (My fantasy: that they aren't going to do that anyway.) Or get a headphone preamp.
― These Robust Cookies, Thursday, 25 October 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)