One of the three best singles of the 80's, and DON'T EVEN ARGUE WITH ME, SUCKAS... Perfect intro, perfect sex-kitten lyrics, the perfect beat for a little strip-club bump-n'-grind; sultry and slinky and sweaty and heterosexually oily enough to turn your gay friends straight, to give your grade-school nephew a REAL sex-ed, to make ya grandmomma move that artifical hip from side to side... Production by His Royal Purple Weirdness... rhythm by the Time, in silhouette behind a pink lace curtain... you can keep your Michael Jackson/Janet Jackson/Madonna/Duran Duran Billboard Top 40 hits of the decade... just give me that five minutes of the once and future Ms. Denise Matthews cooing about how she needs seven inches or more, with husky-voiced backup from The Chain-smoking Lesbian One (i.e. "the white chick") and non-existent backup from The One With the Teddy Bear (i.e. "the other black chick")... And the coda?? Did I use the word "perfect" already?? Too bad. I'll wake you when I'm done...
But, WAIT -- there's more!... the grade-Z plastic new wave of "Bite the Beat", complete with two-fingered Farfisa solo... the funk-da-fied dissin' and dozens-playin' of "If a Girl Answers (Don't Hang Up)", in which the aforementioned Lesbian White Member of The 6 unleashes a scathing rap so unbelievably right-on and raunchy, it almost legitimately paves the way for Emi -- oh, never mind... the robotically-intoned drum-machine-and-keyboard-bleep workout "Drive Me Wild", which is ALMOST as stank-bootyfunk-nasty as the 12" extended single version, with fuck-me lyrics nearly as brilliant as those of "Nasty Girl"... And, hell, if you don't dig all THAT, then you at least get Prince doing a vocal drag-queen number...
Why did I fall in love with these gals as a wee, curly-haired lad in 80's California?? Why did I wander about in a trance, with the voice of the Original Caramel Queen of His Royal Purple Order cooing in my ear through my state-of-the-art Walkman (with both a rewind AND a fast-fwd button... you KNOW it!)?? I mean, these girls are almost like -- what? -- the Pistols of early-80's bubblegum, seeing as how this was their one album before the sheer momentum of their opening lingerie dance on the 1999 tour tore them apart at the seams! Even better: This thing's been, like, deleted from the Warner Bros. catalogue, so hunting it down reminded me of when I was about ready to board a flight to Madagascar, trying to find a CD version of Miles' "Live-Evil", in the pre-Sony-reissue era!!!
Come on, SOMEONE out there... tell me... do I walk alone on this garter-strewn path to sheer Vanitydom????
― Scott Kos, Wednesday, 23 April 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)
But yeah, it's a classic. If only for "Nasty Girl" alone. But I like basically everything with any Prince involvement, except the Mazarati album.
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Scott Kos, Wednesday, 23 April 2003 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.arthurrogergallery.com/Artists/Bourgeois/susanmoonsie_image.htm
― Scott Kos (Scott Kos), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Scott Kos (Scott Kos), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)
I wish Dez Dickerson had done a solo album back in the day.
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Scott Kos (Scott Kos), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Scott Kos (Scott Kos), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)
And, yeah, Scott - the Jill Jones record rocks.
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/jleroue/musicpages/minneapolis/apollonia/apollonia6.html
― Scott Kos (Scott Kos), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/jleroue/musicpages/minneapolis/vanity/vanity6.html
― Scott Kos (Scott Kos), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Scott Kos (Scott Kos), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)
(except that this was responsible for me actually paying to go see 'last dragon' in the theaters - "Shaw'Nuff - the Shogun of Harlem" hehheh, sorry it still makes me giggle)
and i'm still pissed that i'd have to pay 160 bucks to find this on CD
― H (Heruy), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)
SURVIVIN IN THE 80s is where it's at, kids... that being said I dig almost everything Prince was affiliated with from the time period, altho I've never heard (or even knew of) the A6 or Jesse Johnson records! The "Jamie Starr" Time stuff is faboo as well.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 23 April 2003 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― H (Heruy), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― H (Heruy), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― H (Heruy), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― H (Heruy), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 23:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 23:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)
Anyway, for my upcoming wedding in October, let's see... I think I'm having the DJ dust off "Bite the Beat", the extended-single version of "Drive Me Wild"... and the seven-minute version of Apples doing "Sex Shooter"...
― Scott Kos (Scott Kos), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)
The Family's album is grossly underrated as well. And Andre Cymone's "The Dance Electric"...
I only wish the Appolonia 6 record was good as the Vanity 6 album, though half of it is great.
(You can find all of this on vinyl pretty easily. Hell, you could buy the records and pay someone to digitize them for you for MUCH less than $160... jesus f'in christ)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 24 April 2003 01:28 (twenty-two years ago)
Insert electroclash joke here.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 April 2003 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)
God... "Warm Leatherette"...
Also, I may be poking at some people's exposed nerve endings or whatever here... but why is it that the V6/A6 stuff -- brilliant fluff though it is -- why is it that it sounds SOOO much less dated to 21st-century ears than, say, the concurrent early Madonna stuff???
― Scott Kos (Scott Kos), Thursday, 24 April 2003 02:13 (twenty-two years ago)
I totally agree about the A6 album... Between '84-'87 alone, I must've spun it enough for a THOUSAND lifetimes, and yet all I remember is "Sex Shooter" and "Happy Birthday, Mr. Christian"... and the giggly "skits" on Side Two, which -- as cute as they are -- are BEYOND obvious as time-fillers...
― Scott Kos (Scott Kos), Thursday, 24 April 2003 02:17 (twenty-two years ago)
*coughPRINCEcough*
When Matos, JS, and I were discussing Prince (at le Seattle FAP) last week, M mentioned the rather understated Devo/synth-punk influence on Prince, and he's completely right.
He said, for starters, "I mean, look at Dr. Fink!"... and he does indeed look a lot like a Mark Mothersbaugh understudy at the very least.
Moreover, since that synth-punk influence is, for lack of a better word, trendy these days.. and given that sparse, gated synth drums will be trendy for a long time.. it ain't no surprise.
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 24 April 2003 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 April 2003 05:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)
because vanity is so incredibly hot perhaps?!?!?! shes not black by the way as the lead post says, shes latina.
― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)
"you mad such a pretty messon my dress"
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 3 September 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)
vanity wins every time.
― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Friday, 3 September 2004 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)
x-post
― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 3 September 2004 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)
“prior to finding my Lord and Savior I lived in the bottomless pit playground of cocaine addiction. Lifting me higher and dropping me like a steel beam, I’d inhaled enough crack rock so that you could light me up and smoke me and stick me into the nearest cold grave.”
― H (Heruy), Friday, 3 September 2004 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 3 September 2004 10:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 3 September 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)
Agreed on the aceness of Scott's initial post. (Rima, if you appear on any more threads that I'm on too then we'll either have to have a fist-fight or get married).
― Affectian (Affectian), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sean Bateman, Friday, 3 September 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)
http://s27.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PPWLKHYLFZOW1CQ7KUVMKWG9C
It's time to jam... (before you sleep on it. "is that it? wake me when you're done.")
― I'm So Dull, Sunday, 30 January 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)
― donut christ (donut), Sunday, 30 January 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 30 January 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 30 January 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Sunday, 30 January 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)
― donut christ (donut), Sunday, 30 January 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)
how do i upload a picture of vanity's lp
― rurple pain, Sunday, 30 January 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 30 January 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)
Wait - according to Wikipedia:
Prince suggested that Matthews use the stage name "Vagina" (pronounced "Vageena"); she refused and renamed herself "Vanity" instead. Some versions of the story suggest that it was Prince himself who coined the name "Vanity," as he said that looking at Matthews was like looking in a mirror at the female version of himself."
Is someone making a Wikipedia jokie-jokie, or has that been known before?!?! Vagina?!?!
― Savannah Smiles, Monday, 14 January 2008 17:00 (seventeen years ago)
retroBorat?
― Mackro Mackro, Monday, 14 January 2008 17:06 (seventeen years ago)
the '6' is a ref to the number of breasts in the group. also hands and feet though prince didnt care about that so much.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 12:15 (seventeen years ago)
so so classic
― blunt, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 12:49 (seventeen years ago)
There's two things we can't stand:– one is a jive talk man– the other is a jive talk man with no money
can u dig it?
― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 01:26 (fourteen years ago)
My best friend and I wanted to start a V6 cover band. Never happened. She teaches pole dancing now.
― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 01:30 (fourteen years ago)
tbh she's also working on a masters in engineering so that's not the whole picture
― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 01:31 (fourteen years ago)
Hello, this is VanityIs Jimmy home?
- Yes, but he's taking a shower
Oh, I seeDid he just take out the trash?
- No, that's somethin' he use 2 doNow he's taking out me
Oh, I seeWell, tell 'em he left his pants over here last night
- That's OK, U keep 'emHe won't be needin' 'em 2 night
Oh, what's the matterIs he going swimming?
- Why no, we was gonna goBut he said he did that last night
Well sugar, I know about a great partyWhy don't U bring us your car?
- So sorry baby, but I never go 2 singles' bars
Singles? Is that what U think?Tramp, I'm datin' your dad
- Oh, he died about 7 years backNow ain't that just 2 bad?
Well, that's how we like 'em - tall, stiff and readyThat's positively more than I can say 4 dead Jimmy
- That's because he was swallowin' vitamin ENow he's swallowin' me
Oh, U mean U were swallowin' himWhy don't U just tie a mattress 2 your back?
- I'm gonna need it cuz if I ever see your faceI'm gonna fall and have a heart attack
All that's gonna fall is the wig off your headNow what U think about that?
- I think I'd rather wear a wigThan run a motel 4 roaches, ants and liceDogs and cats in my hat
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 08:56 (fourteen years ago)
What's really funny is the Time's B-Side Grace dialogue between Morris Day and Vanity as a reporter:
.... Hi. I'm Bridgette Harrington and I'm here to interview Morris Day, lead singer of THE TIME..... Mr. Day, How are you?
Need you ask?
.... I'll take it that you're fine.
Yes, I've been told that.
.... Oh, OK. Tell me. Are you really so cool?
Is money green?
.... When did you first notice your coolness?
I didn't. The doctor did.You see, most people were born in birthday suits. I was born in a zute suit.
.... You got to be joking.
Baby, I ain't got time for jokes. What time is it anyway?
.... It's time for us to continue this interview..... How does THE TIME go about generating such a funky sound?
Pardon me. I know you didn't say "funk.".
.... Well?
Let me just say one thing. Funk is dead.Funk is something you can learn in school and ain't nothing funky about being cool, ... Grace.
.... OK, but my name is Bridgette.
Oh I'm sorry, ... Grace.
.... It seems your image has a lot to do with your approch to music..... Your clothes for example.
My clothes, fuck. Hold it.
[ From: http://www.metrolyrics.com/grace-lyrics-the-time.html ]
Let me, let let me just say something to all the fellas out there.Take off them blue jeans and them "New Wave" clothes and go get you some "Baggies."It's about the freedom, right?In other words, stay at the hotel with the biggest ballroom.Don't get me wrong. Some of my best friends wear blue jeans.I'm just not ever seen them in it.What time is it?
.... Why are you concerned with the time?
'Cause I got somewhere to go.
.... Where's that?
To the Cork, Johnny.
.... I told you my name is Bridgette.
Sorry, Nella.
.... I don't think I like you at all..... Is there anything else you would like to say before we close this interview?
Yes!!!!What's your phone number?
.... Uuh! - 7..., 7..., 7..., 9..., 3..., 1..., 1.
Ain't nobody bad like me?
777-9311777-9311
― Just Saw Bobby Brown perform Every Little Step. Life is Great! (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
needs more (nsfw) pictures this thread.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 21:52 (fourteen years ago)
lolling at "Vageena"
― I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 13:49 (fourteen years ago)
can someone explain "3 x 2 = 6" to me, it is a little beyond my understanding
― teledyldonix, Monday, 3 September 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)
kinda mindblowing; a short film based around the Apollonia album! seems like a rough cut. did this actually come out??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EATjgXd0pM4
― piscesx, Saturday, 8 March 2014 15:01 (eleven years ago)
Word going around, sadly, that Vanity herself has passed on.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 00:42 (nine years ago)
https://twitter.com/MCHammer/status/699387281619210241
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 00:45 (nine years ago)
RIP.
I remember "Nasty Girl," of course, but the main association I have with her is the movie 52 Pickup, which my parents rented when we were kids and let us watch until it got to the scene where Kelly Preston's character is murdered (super brutally, as I recall), and my parents were all like whoops and shut it off.
― pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 03:22 (nine years ago)
That sucks. RIP.
I was just playing the Vanity 6 album last week. Still sounds brilliant.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 03:25 (nine years ago)
I just tried to look it up on Spotify, but its not there; does Prince's reach extend to people who worked with him once, 35 years ago?
― pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 03:33 (nine years ago)
i mean that's the extremely unconfirmed explanation i have for chaka's "i feel for you" being unavailable except in remix form
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 03:34 (nine years ago)
but that doesn't extend to all of his writing work. it's weird
the album hasn't been available digitally for years, not sure if it ever was
i found a reasonably-priced cd copy a few years ago and snatched it up
― dyl, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 09:21 (nine years ago)
Yeah, that album is almost impossible to find in other formats than LP. AFAIK it was only released on CD in the 80s, when CD printings of albums were (for obvious reasons) pretty small. I've been looking for a reasonably priced copy for years, with no luck. The same applies to the Jill Jones album (the best "Prince protégé" album IMO), thankfully I did manage to find a CD of that.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 10:24 (nine years ago)
And the Family album (the one with the original version of "Nothing Compares 2 U") is in the same category.
I'm not sure if Prince could really stop Warner from reissuing these albums if they wanted to, but possibly whatever deal he cut with them would make it to costly, considering it's only a fairly small group of Prince superfans who'd be interested in them. Most people probably don't care about Vanity 6 beyond "Nasty Girl", and that tune can be easily found on various comps.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 10:31 (nine years ago)
Anyway, RIP Vanity. I'd read about her health problems, but 57 is still too young. Apparently she'd found peace and content after her years of drug addiction, though, so at least she lived her final years without that burden.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 10:34 (nine years ago)
52 Pick-Up came out on Blu-Ray earlier this year; I bought it. It's a surprisingly nasty movie for an '80s thriller; well worth watching again.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 11:20 (nine years ago)
oh no :(
vanity 6 is such a classic, "he's so dull" is total evisceration wrapped in a bubblegum cloak and "if a girl answers" is just beyond
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 16:21 (nine years ago)
Listening to Vanity 6 for the first time right now. "If a Girl Answers" is indeed fantastic, as is "Wet Dream." As it turns out, I already knew "He's So Dull" from National Lampoon's Vacation.
Hoping I'll be able to score a vinyl copy of this at some point.
― pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 16:49 (nine years ago)
Great remembrance here
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1023-remembering-vanity-the-prince-protege-who-got-a-second-chance/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:22 (nine years ago)
Prince kicked off his Piano and a Microphone intimate concert series in Melbourne on Tuesday, and dedicated his track “Little Red Corvette” to Vanity.
He tells the audience, “I just found out a little while ago that someone dear to us has passed away, I’m gonna dedicate this song to her.”
The track moved into “Dirty Mind,” another song from the era they were together.
According to news.com.au, he changed the lyrics to The Ladder to replace “Electra” with “Vanity” so the line became, “This Prince, he had a subject named Vanity who loved him with a passion, uncontested.” He made a similar name change in The Beautiful Ones.
He reportedly told the audience, “Can I tell you a story about Vanity? Or should I tell you a story about Denise? Her and I used to love each other deeply. She loved me for the artist I was, I loved her for the artist she was trying to be. She and I would fight. She was very headstrong ‘cos she knew she was the finest woman in the world. She never missed an opportunity to tell you that.”
He then recalled a time when he threatened to throw her in a swimming pool, but she said he was “too little” so he got his bodyguard to do it instead. He adds, “I probably shouldn’t be telling this story… but she’d want us to celebrate her life and not mourn her.”
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 20:35 (nine years ago)