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no - i can't remember how to spell his surname - but i do recall his 90s remix technique - stretch every song out over 12 minutes - papua new guinea, primals stuff, and then the wayshite two lone swordsman malarky and new fanboy electro label

iS HE LUCKY BUT MEDIOCRE OR A DANCE REMIX LEGEND - NEITHER/BOTH ?

btw. love parade fiasco - geordies/piss-up/brewery - soz

― Suxx, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I could sense this one was coming up ;)

Let's do this:

- Loaded = all time classic. Got me into dance music.

- 1st Sabres album, patchy.

- Haunted Dancehall, much better.

- Dub Chapter 3 rmx of Primal Scream's 'Jailbird' = amazing

- 'Trainspotting' track = passable.

- 9 'O Clock Drop = essential collection

- that last Two Lone Swordsmen album = utter classic.

- Hypercity: Forcetracks mix-cd = album of the summer.

- Weatherall DJ'ing after Primal Scream gig in '91 = classic

- talk about Weatherall being the new Tubby = dud.

― Omar, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh and the American Spring mix of Higher than the Sun = also classic.

One Dove: was underwhelmed at the time and finally dumped it at the record exchange. Sort of miss that album now.

― Omar, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Not much to add to Omar's excellent summary, apart from a warning that Weatherall's remix of MBV's Soon should be avoided by anyone who respects their ears.

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So info of no use on THIS bitch haha

― mark s, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Stuff on Screamadelica = great, and not nearly as dated as people have made it out to be.

One Dove = also great, goes a bit new age namby pamby at times, but, like, in a good way. Seefeel gone pop.

The Hypercity comp is marvellous and excellent, although I must stress that it's not like this stuff just came out of nowhere. For more of the good stuff pick up Luomo's Vocal City and MRI's Rhythmogenesis albums.

I've never actually checked out Sabres/Swordsmen, though the Sabres mixes of Bjork's "One Day" were both exceedingly nice.

― Tim, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tim's on the money on two counts:

1) The Endorphin rmx of Bjork's 'One Days' = bliss 2) Luomo's 'Vocal City' = utter, utter, disco/dub/techno genius (but I'll admit I bought it together with the Hypercity CD just because someone at NME described Luomo's music as "undulating aquatic lullabies" = the way all music should sound ;)

― Omar, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Sabres had some off and on stuff, but the Haunted Dancehall album is well worth seeking out. The In the Nursery remix of the title track is also pretty damn genius. I have one 2 Lone Swordsmen album around here somewhere, it's good but I can't recall much about it specifically...

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Seemed like it all got so tentative on the TLS records. Andy scientifically testing extent to which he can get up his own arse. Of course Tiny Reminders is a "pocket-calculator breakthrough" etc. but I still can't get around the mmm... tininess of the reminders? Will the next album be Big Fuckoff Stickies hopefully?

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yeh, his screamadelica stuff still stands up (but it is a little dated, although i guess it was already dated when it was released - bore no relation to what was current at time). with distance now, you can see its classicism and its fear of the future, while at time wasn't so obvious. still, despite that, remains a very good album

now, haunted dancehall is utter classic, esp the last 4 or 5 tracks. weatheralls finest hour without doubt, supercool south london murk

― gareth, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

His 'emissions' label was unique at the time. But he's still rude... cause of TLS eps and 'Bootle' on Tiny Reminders.

― K-reg, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

k-reg, where ya bin?

yes, i'd forgot bootle. the tls stuff is always mixed, some good some averagey. there is one track (forget name) towards the end of Stay Down which is wonderful, reminiscent of prime era sabres.

perhaps more importantly, has anyone been down to the Haywire Sessions yet??

― gareth, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

hey has anyone heard his remix of calexico, or rather their remix of tls? i cant be bothered to buy that remix album, just for one track (the other remixrs look kinda boring)

quite like calexico myself.

if you wouldnt mind getting some of their albums but dont want to spend the money, then you should come out to russia. i got all tls albums, and sabres 'haunted dancehall' for 1.20 each. on "super mega hitz 2000 collection" style cds. or alternatively get me to buy em and i'll post them/. but the postage'll probably be more than the cd itself.

― ambrose, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

he's still playin the TOON on Sunday - so i take back everything - andy's ok !

― geordie racer, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three weeks pass...

The Two LoneSwordsmen "Tiny Reminders" album is great. "Stay Down" is OK and haven't heard any of his other stuff.

― David, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...

revive. Let's do a CDR or an S&D or a POX, maybe.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I nominate his 12 inch remix of My Bloody Valentine's "Soon", which everyone hates except for me cuz it totally butchers the song and isolates its respective parts from each other.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I kind of like it! It's very dorky, but I think that may be the charm.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

genius

and regardless of what you think of TLS (i personally think they're flawless), RGC just keeps getting better and better

― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i like his remix of 'soon' too even though it's pretty much stolen wholesale from a westbam track.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

POX

1. sabres of paradise - smokebelch ii
2. sabres of paradise - jacob st (7am) / chapel st market (9am)
3. sabres of paradise - haunted dancehall
4. two lone swordsmen - little did we know
5. two lone swordsmen - beacon block
6. two lone swordsmen - as worldly pleasures wave goodbye...
7. weatherall's 1996 deep house essential mix
8. bishop - the return of pliskin
9. deanne day - midnight automatic

10. trying to pick from one of these three:

a. rude solo - tight
b. slam - visions (2LS dub)
c. david holmes - rodney yates (2LS remix)

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Have you ever been going home at night after a long smoking session and wished you'd brought your walkman? So you start making up a sort of beat in your head, and cos there's no-one about you start humming the bassline. You're stomping along and doing your best to do a sort of stoned human beatbox thing. What this needs is a guitar effect here, a weird bubbly thing over the drum - damnit this is the best song ever! Wish I had something to record it on and then try and program it in when I get home!

But of course you get home and by the time you've slipped your key in the door, satisfied your munchies with a pineapple, baked beans, cheese, ham, leftover sausage and egg sandwich and then watched half an hour of a television show about sploshing, you've forgotten the tune.

That's what TLS do except they don't forget the tune.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

excellent.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...

There's a mix he's done to promote the upcoming Fabric mix at the following link

http://www.fabriclondon.com/label.artist.album.fabric.php?artist=andrewweatherall&release=fab19/and

― angus-macdonald (Audiophonics), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

'Haunted Dancehall' really is the shit.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 23 July 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

yes it is. i have a question that this brought to mind but i'm going to put it on the appropriate thread.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 23 July 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

just been listening to AW's Essential Mix from '93. The Sabres remix of Brothers Love Dubs' 'The Mighty Ming' sounds pretty special. Any of you know/have this one?

― ;_; (blueski), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

and why wasn't he into Detroit tech back then as much as perhaps he could've (ought to have?) been? the techno he played then seems to be disappointingly all Euro+Hawtin by and large (but correct me if i'm wrong by all means). the mix does end with 'Carousel' tho :)

― ;_; (blueski), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

my gut reaction is drugs. detroit techno doesn't sound especially great but most of the sabres stuff sounds 10000000x better.

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

you so crayzeh

― ;_; (blueski), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

altho if you meant 'on drugs' then yeah i guess that makes more sense

― ;_; (blueski), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

that's what i meant, i'm trying not to use too many keywords because i'm posting fromw work.

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

it also folds into a larger questions of why was NY house so much bigger than chicago house so much bigger than detroit techno with the farley/heller crowd.

didn't weatherall basically get his entree to dance music producing via heller/farley/oakenfold? that would explain his early tastes.

actually i sort of find it refreshing that throughout his career weatherall's been more or less untouched by detroit techno.

i haven't really been excited by anything he's put his name on since "stay down" but this looks like it has potential. hopefully it's more black devil and less creme organization.

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

actually i sort of find it refreshing that throughout his career weatherall's been more or less untouched by detroit techno.

some of the 2LS stuff like 'Glide By Shooting' sounds a bit informed by it but yeah. can't help thinking of it as a shame tho!

want to hear '9 o Clock Drop' again now...

― ;_; (blueski), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

this was a great weatherall thread

is anyone excited about andrew weatherall fabric mix?

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

weatherall e-mix 96

Hydronaut vs Morgan Geist - "Deep In The Feeling" (US Aquarhythms)
Nimbus Quartet - "Hep Cat Speaketh" (US Sounds)
2 Lone Swordsmen - "Glide By Shooting" (Emissions)
Stockwell Steppas - "Spin Desire" (acetate)
2 Lone Swordsmen - "Bin, Jack & Florence" (Emissions)
Deanne Day - "1st Long Friday" (Emissions)
Communication X - "Duality Part 2" (Muzique Tropique)
Urban Farmers - "Last Chance To Dance" (20/20 Vision)
Aphrodisiac - "Earth Whispers" (BPM)
Nail - "Try" (DiY)
NY Connection - "Bless The Funk" (Evolution)
Q Burn's Abstract Message - "Mess of Afros [GU Mix]" (SSR)
Boo Williams - "Make Some Noise" (Relief)
Stacey Kid - "Think Of You [Paul Johnson's Party Mix]" (Peacefrog)
Wyndell Long - "She Heard Me Cry" (Peacefrog)
Motorbass - "Neptune" (Basenotic)
Discocaine - "Keep On" (Zoom)
Stockwell Steppas - "Turn The Filter Off" (acetate)
Freaks - "One For The Diary" (Phono)
Restless Soul - "Sykodelic" (Basement 292)
Kenlou - "Sensational Beats" (Masters At Work)
DJ Camacho - "The Dance Thinks" (Sumo)

pretty much completely detroit-free!!

i think the late emissions stuff was much more influenced by glasgow underground and paper recordings and so on.

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

need 2 hear. that other reminds me how enjoyable his old Social mix was tho.

― ;_; (blueski), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

it's like a dry run for that mix!

this one is more straightforward and optimistic. it also doesn't really have the valley/peak/valley setup of the other one.

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

Hyperbelgium

― ;_; (blueski), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

The Bullet Catcher's Apprentice
1 Feathers (6:10)
2 You Can't Do Disco Without A Strat (7:01)
3 La Sirena (5:58)
4 Edie Eleven (8:03)
5 You Can't Do Disco (Repeat/Repeat Remix) (8:12)

http://www.discogs.com/release/817390

Listening to this this morning and uh... so great. Esp. tracks 2, 4, 5. I have been listening to a lot of techno lately so that's saying something. Or maybe it isn't?

― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

more black devil and less creme organization?

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

Check out his 96 "Cut The Crap" CD for Back to Basics, it's the bee's knees, cat's pyjamas & dog's bollocks of downtempo mixes.
http://download.yousendit.com/81696BC31E16FF89

― blunt (blunt), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

NY techno was more ravey than chicago house or detrot techno, and even the house stuff had a kind of roughness to it

kind of weird that i'm using past tense here

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

phonica have samples up for 'bullet catcher's apprentice' but the tracklisting for the 12" is a bit different to that discogs entry, only three songs I think.

I have been returning to that fabric mix a lot lately.

― H2-H4 (H2-H4), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

it's all at Beatport. even the new TLS compilation. go!

― witherall (brother loves dub), Friday, 27 October 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

weatherall really is all over the place and i have heard him drop detroit stuff countless times in the early to mid-90s, as well as the a.r.t./black dog/b12 axis from the UK.

i guess you don't really hear this influence in his productions, but he definitely knows his shit when it comes to that side of things.

i really love 'swimming not skimming' when it comes to his deep house productions. totally influenced by the glasgow scene as vahid says above. it has a really goofy muzique tropique remix.

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Friday, 27 October 2006 08:48 (nineteen years ago)

need 2 hear. that other reminds me how enjoyable his old Social mix was tho.
-- ;_; (n...), October 26th, 2006.

god remember when 'back to basics' came out. feel sooooo old now.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

Try and d/l his 'Live at Gravity, Vilnius 2006.06.09' - a great heavy, bouncy set.

― braveclub (braveclub), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

ten months pass...

So Weatherall is mixing the next Sci.Fi.Hi.Fi for Soma- sort of. His is rechristened Sci.Fi.Lo.Fi and the tracklisting is:

1 Joe Boot & The Fabulous Winds - Rock n' Roll Radio
2 The Rebs - Renegade
3 Gene Vincent - Crazy Beat
4 Hipbone Slim & The Kneetremblers - Snake Pit
5 Tav Falco & The Panther Burns - Jungle Rock
6 Charlie Feathers - Jungle Fever
7 Johnny Burnette - Wampus Cat
8 The Milkshakes - Grim Reaper
9 Link Wray - 5-10-15-20
10 The Strangeloves - I Want Candy
11 T-Rex - Free Angel
12 The Fall - Big New Prinz
13 The Flaming Stars - Spilled Your Pint
14 Primal Scream - Bloods (2 Lone Swordsmen Mix)
15 The Tropics of Cancer - Upside Down
16 Shockheaded Peters - I, Bloodbrother Be (£4000 Loveletter)
17 The Cramps - New Kind of Kick
18 Killing Joke - Bloodsport
19 Andrew Weatherall - Feathers

Could be good!

― Telephone thing, Monday, 27 August 2007 01:20 (eighteen years ago)

Man, why has Wetherall gone so shitty all of a sudden?

― the next grozart, Monday, 27 August 2007 02:54 (eighteen years ago)

C/D" old timer using mix CD to "educate the kids"?

(see also the "Back to Mine" series")

― paulhw, Monday, 27 August 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

looks great.

16 Shockheaded Peters - I, Bloodbrother Be (£4000 Loveletter) - best song ever!

― stirmonster, Monday, 27 August 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

djing in alexandra palace after primal scream 2000 nye.

― pft, Monday, 27 August 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

"peppered with spastic magic" - really excellent, actually

― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 23 September 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

meets Louis Pattison - wtf with 'Riot City Blues' tho

― blueski, Monday, 10 December 2007 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

his rockabilly stuff is really shit

― braveclub, Monday, 10 December 2007 11:36 (eighteen years ago)

Didn't realise he was a drugs fuckup that recently but there again why would I have much reason to think about what Andy Weatherall gets up to in his spare time? I saw him DJ about six weeks ago and had a good time

― DJ Mencap, Monday, 10 December 2007 12:18 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, read that the other week. Odd.

― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 10 December 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

his rockabilly stuff is really shit

WRONG!

― stirmonster, Monday, 10 December 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

That's not a bad tracklisting but I always get put off compilations when compilers include their own tracks. Also, perhaps take out the boring Flaming Stars-type modern stuff and put in some Wanda Jackson.

― Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 10 December 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

his rockabilly stuff is really shit

WRONG!

Obv I don't mean the Cramps, Gene Vincent etc, but the rockabilly Two Lone Swordsmen stuff is genuinely rubbish IMHO.

― braveclub, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

wtf he produced 'riot city blues'?

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 12:00 (eighteen years ago)

I suppose somebody had to.

― Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 12:04 (eighteen years ago)

he didn't produce it (Youth did) but it did inexplicably save him from the brink

― blueski, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 12:13 (eighteen years ago)

from listening to it?

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 12:17 (eighteen years ago)

Apparently it's Shakin' Stevens' favourite Primal Scream album.

― Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 12:29 (eighteen years ago)

Would've totally guessed Give Out But Don't Give Up

― DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

Obv I don't mean the Cramps, Gene Vincent etc, but the rockabilly Two Lone Swordsmen stuff is genuinely rubbish IMHO.

oh, i see. i haven't heard that.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

found a french article that listed his "best remixes"

happy mondays - hallelujah (club mix)
new order - world in motion (no alla violenza mix)
primal scream - come together (weatherall mix)
saint etienne - only love can break your heart (a mix of two halves)
my bloody valentine - soon (weatherall mix)

i gotta say i quite like these heard together. especially "come together" which has the amazing jesse jackson "gospel, and rhythm, and blues, and jazz ... music is music" speech stretched out over 10 minutes of dub drums and flanged samples

what's missing? is his mix of weekender's "flowered up" any good?

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 13 December 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

When are they going to come out with a Weatherall/Sabres remix & production collection? Trevor Horn & SA&W got box sets, Why Not Weatherall?

― El Tomboto, Thursday, 13 December 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

Oh right because he's still working

― El Tomboto, Thursday, 13 December 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

fucking kris needs got one

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 13 December 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

i though he was a totally well known drugs fuck up. all that stuff about terry farley selling out JBO from under his feet and him getting $0 for the trouble? and he did an interview with melody maker at an aiport during which he went to the bathroom, did a couple of bumps and came back w/ powder on his noise?

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 13 December 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

or something like that.

anyway "come together" = all time yoga flame

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 13 December 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

I discovered his American Spring mix of Higher Than The Sun recently. What a man.

― Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

xpost: that is true, but i've only heard the album version. i assume that was his work.

― Just got offed, Thursday, 13 December 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

four months pass...

I was just in Sister Ray and they were playing some amazing post-punk dub thing, so I asked what it was and it was Let It Take You There by Maximum Joy off this new Weatherall mix http://www.discogs.com/release/1311031 "> http://www.discogs.com/release/1311031

Sounded really good for the 10 minutes or so I was there - has anyone heard the whole thing?

― Jamie T Smith, Friday, 9 May 2008 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

fucking kris needs got one

that Kris Needs Must with the puffy cover or a real box?

― energy flash gordon, Friday, 9 May 2008 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

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