Faith No More...C/D, S/D, say something interesting about, POX, etc.

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Faith No More. What do y'all think? I don't recall any discussion of them recently, and having just unearthed Angel Dust and King for a Day from the vault, I'm curious.

First of all...

I've never heard a band grow so much between two albums (in this case The Real Thing vs. Angel Dust). It makes me somewhat disheartened to hear "Epic" or "From Out of Nowhere" now, cuz they were so CORNY and CHEESY, when a couple short years later they were dropping sickenly gorgeous and tweaked tunes like "Everything's Ruined" and "Caffeine" and "Be Aggressive" and "A Small Victory". And then Jim Martin left, and they made a surprisingly great album with (PHUCKIN PHENOMENAL) Mr. Bungle & Secret Chiefs 3 guitarist Trey Spruance (King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime), disturbingly diverse and, again (k-like Angel Dust), has a raw-yet-disgusting BEAUTIFUL SOUL at it's core.

So what do y'all think? [preparing for the worst]

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 April 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The Nickalicious Faith No More POX:

1. Be Aggressive
2. Surprise You're Dead
3. Everything's Ruined
4. Evidence
5. King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime
6. The Gentle Art of Making Enemies
7. Midlife Crisis
8. Zombie Eaters
9. A Small Victory
10.Land of Sunshine

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 April 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

And yes I'm completely aware how many really really shit bands cite them as an influence (even though most-to-none of them actually reflect any of that "influence" in their sound).

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 April 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't heard anything past Angel Dust, but I remember that album as being particularly good.

― hstencil, Monday, 28 April 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

What hstencil just said.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 28 April 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the grumbly old man Tom Waitsy type song on Angel Dust, whatever it's called.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 28 April 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

King for a Day was my favorite; I saw them on that tour and still have a skin-tight tshirt from it.

― Sean (Sean), Monday, 28 April 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Fool For A Day, King For A Lifetime rocked the house big cd during my final year of college. Actually my only full year of college.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 28 April 2003 13:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh shit, um, "RV"? That song's awesome. "I hate you/talking to myself/everybody's staring at me/I'm only bleeding..." There's one part in that where he's just like "mrgh...ar...oh SHEEIT..." right in between verse lyrics that is so well timed and straight-up.

Supposedly Mike Patton did lots of method-acting type shit to direct what he did on that album, like staying up for 72+ hours to write "Caffeine", and supposedly being trashed while recording that song ("RV").

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 April 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Rock star gets "trashed" to get "into character" shockah! I thought Mike Patton didn't do drugs?

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 28 April 2003 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

again I will re-tell my Mike Patton dump in a bag story. Saw him shit in a paperbag at FNM concert in the corner of club. He carried it out the door and across towards Fenway. I bet he's a Yankees fan.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 28 April 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Faith No More, one of the few bands I loved in high school that I can still say I like today. Yeah, The Real Thing hasn't aged particularly well, but I still like it for the nostalgia factor, especially Zombie Eaters and The End of the World. Did anyone else have Live at Brixton Academy? Where he sings Pump Up the Jam during the slow piano part at the end of Epic?
Angel Dust is a classic to me, that ending of Jizzlobber, Crack Hitler, and Theme from Midnight Cowboy is fucked up. I lived in India at the time, and had a bootleg copy on tape that had their cover of Easy at the end, which I love as well.
King for a Day... has some very high points (the screaming in Ugly in the Morning sticks out in my memory) and some shit (I dislike the "genre" songs in particular, like Take This Bottle, though Evidence is pretty good). I should really try and find this used on cd, I only have the Indian bootleg tape of this one too.
I had a King for a Day... tshirt with the album cover on it and an Angel Dust tour shirt, despite not seeing the tour. Man, I wish I still had those so I could reprazent.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Monday, 28 April 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

My POX, surprisingly similar to othernick's, but with a few strategic changes:
1. Falling to Pieces
2. Zombie Eaters
3. Edge of the World (live version)
4. Midlife Crisis
5. Be Aggressive
6. Land of Sunshine
7. Jizzlobber
8. Get Out
9. Ugly in the Morning
10. RV

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Monday, 28 April 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

here's what i said on the old thread and i stand by it:

i agree that all the fnm albums from angel dust on are brilliant but i havent listened to them in years. and severed from, ya know, a band - a collective rather than a collection of hired hands to record the latest idea he had on the toilet this morning (tomahawk, i think, notwithstanding but i havent heard it) - patton has been moving further and further out from the orbit known as "good."

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 April 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

also, mr. dave queen:

Tomahawk = Mike Patton's left-handed apology for the fact that stadium funk-metal killed the Pigfuck Nation (note to confused - pre- grunge US underground rawk more influenced by NooWave than by 70s metal) even deader than the hair bands. But being the loveable asshole he is, he sort of gives the pigfuckers (of which Denison's Lizards were kings, just like Zog was once King of Albania) a big lead in the beginning, then ties one hand behind his back and whips their ass again.

Take sides - who was more inconsequential, Killdozer or Front Line Assembly?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 April 2003 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

jess: Fantomas isn't a band?

― original bgm, Monday, 28 April 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

not a good one, no.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 April 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Ok, say what you will, but those records definitely seem to have had a lot more preparation go into them than, oh, the Merzbow-Mike Patton collaboration or some John Zorn free improv nonsense or whatevah.

― original bgm, Monday, 28 April 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess - Mr. Bungle? Do you hate?

Did anyone else have Live at Brixton Academy? Where he sings Pump Up the Jam during the slow piano part at the end of Epic?

I loved that. I have an mp3 of a Mr. Bungle show where they close out (forgot the title, one of the ones off the "clown-face" album) by dissolving it into a totally Japanese-folk-music-oid mellow-out, which Patton eventually rocks Lauryn Hill's "That Thing" over-top-of; kinda similar.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 April 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

And I like how Maxim embraced the last Fantomas album! My friend got all pumped and bought it after reading a review. He pretty much hated it (though he wouldn't admit it) and went back to listening to Motley Crue and Kiss.

― original bgm, Monday, 28 April 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i've never been much bothered either way by mr. bungle.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 April 2003 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

First Mr. Bungle seemed ok at the time, but I totally lost interest after that. For FNM I mostly like Angel Dust and "We Care a Lot."

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 28 April 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, King For A Day really seems to have gotten a critical rehabilitation. At the time it was drawn and quartered by most reviewers and fans...

Personally, I never really liked FNM much. A few nice songs here and there, most of them on Angel Dust but the albums were all flooded with uninteresting filler material. It's too bad that their angst-y hollering turned out to be their legacy rather than their funky weirdness.

― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 28 April 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Wasn't there a review of King For a Day that just said "SHIT SANDWICH"?

― original bgm, Monday, 28 April 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

"ALBUM OF THE YEAR" is HIGHLY underrated! and omg Fantomas is so good.

― chaki (chaki), Monday, 28 April 2003 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud. Though "Falling To Pieces" is probably the second best Korn song (behind "Freak On A Leash," which wins for its Tasmanian Devil part). And I like "Epic" and "Midlife Crisis." Their "funky weirdness" frankly needed more "angst" to ground it (like on "Epic"), cuz otherwise its just technicially proficient fart sounds.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 28 April 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Their "funky weirdness" frankly needed more "angst" to ground it (like on "Epic")

i think thats where their whole post-'Epic' career comes in.

― chaki (chaki), Monday, 28 April 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't hear a lot of bonafide emotion beneath all the kuh-craaazy sound effects on Angel Dust, which is the one full-length I bothered to own. Or at least not enough "songwriting" (ooh, so Geir of me!).

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 28 April 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

hmm. i find angel dust to be their most 'straight up', no frills metal album. i dont hear much of anything 'funky' on that album at all. and i dont really hear any crazy sound effects either just roddy bottoms signature creepy synths. a couple samples on midlife crisis maybe?

― chaki (chaki), Monday, 28 April 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

alright, let's put it this way. I'm not a Zappa fan.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 28 April 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

DUD!

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 28 April 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

"can't i get a transfer, man?? fuck you i'll SKATE to the beach!!"

and

Faith No More: Classic or Dud

love em, never listen to em, thanks nickel ish us

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 April 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I had this friend once, she had primitivist tatoos on her face and belonged for a long time to a lesbian seperatist commune in the country, interestingly she loved 'Faith No More' and put posters of them up all around the flat she moved into in town, they were to her what 'The Stooges' are to most people. I think her insane devotion to such a seemingly superficial band was an aspect of her charm.

― bedroom, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 06:52 (twenty-two years ago)

some great singles (i still love "Epic" and "A Small Victory") but Mike Patton shits (fnarr) me no end. I can't stand Mr Bungle either

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I loved that "Book Of The Month" song he did with Dan The Automator, though. I need a copy of that.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

im going to see TOMAHAWK tonight!

― chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

'We Care Alot'

From the 80's.
This song is badass.

― Scott Stanley, Saturday, 3 May 2003 05:14 (twenty-two years ago)

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