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tell me abt them. recommend stuff.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 29 May 2003 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

they were named here but not properly discussed:

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 29 May 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I just got Infektion and Decline, which is pretty good. I don't really know how to describe it other than noise rock. Lots of building and building into eventual chaos. My one problem with it is the production could be a little more bombastic/less thin.

― NA. (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 May 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Began as kind of a noise/free-jazz outfit, with Hal Russel and Weasil Walter. Over time, they've mutated into a noise-prog band, and Walter is a mega-Magma fanatic. Their last record reminded me of Lightning Bolt, without the bass attack, and with a lot more shrill cymbal.

― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 29 May 2003 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

my favorites are the first two 7" records: "546 Seconds of Noise" and
"1389 Seconds of Noise". This was the post-Hal Russel era, but still with saxophones. Chad Organ and Ken Vendermark, to be precise. Full of the requisite sax and drum squalls, but wrapped in some really locomotive, chugging arrangements that deserve to be called punk rock. The electric death-prog versions of the Luttenbachers that followed were (are) never as appealing as the old acoustic trio was for me. Although the expanded band that made "Constructive Destruction" was not too bad, either.

― arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Thursday, 29 May 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

the early stuff is sorta fun death metal/jazz - hey, someone had to do it, but they don't approach the sophistication of stuff like naked city. the recent stuff is horrendous - avoid at all costs.

― j fail (cenotaph), Thursday, 29 May 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Winners: "The Truth Is A Fucking Lie" and "Revenge Of the Flying Luttenbachers." I think both of those are on Skin Graft. I agree with fail, avoid the proggy recent stuff--Infection and Decline is crap from what I've heard and seen live.

― Ian Johnson, Thursday, 29 May 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the new stuff alright. it's different but decent. it's maybe almost more conventional in a sense. (if heavy ass prog can be called conventional...?)

it'll be interesting to see what ww does now that he's in san fran. he's drumming for xbxrx, etc etc... not sure who is in the new flying l. line up yet... we shall see!
m.

― msp, Thursday, 29 May 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks all!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 29 May 2003 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

the new stuff is basically minimalist magma prog and black metal influences - weasel walter apparently didn't get the blastbeat bug out of his system on the hatewave album.

"infection and decline" is alright, but the production is indeed thin and the drums sound about as synthetic as anything this side of morrisound studios, 1990 (pit-pit-click-pittapitta-click). "the truth is a fucking lie" is probably a better exposition of their recent sound.

the early stuff ("revenge of the flying luttenbachers" and "destroy all music") is jazz/noise/rock hybridization that results in flailing, violent spasms of noise. it's pretty good.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 29 May 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

imagine this:
a band called narc w/ weasel walter, bianca from erase errata, justin from the locust, and the guy from fast forward. Thesis: cocaine.

believe it.

― truant (truant), Friday, 30 May 2003 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

*the sound of all 100 spockmorguers ejaculating over their monitors*

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 30 May 2003 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)

does anyone know anything about the burning flesh (allegedly walter and adris hoyos) stuff floating around on soulseek?

― your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 30 May 2003 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)

THIS IS ANOTHER BAND THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO LIKE BUT NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT IS GOOD

SEE ALSO:

RUINS

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 30 May 2003 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

OKAY, WELL, NOW YOU KNOW AND KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTEL> RUINS ARE COOL JAPANESE PUNKROCK!!!!!!!!

― your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 30 May 2003 04:44 (twenty-two years ago)

RUINS ARE NOT PUNK ROCK > RUINS ARE BETTER THAN frickin' LIGHTINING BLOT!

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 30 May 2003 06:38 (twenty-two years ago)

(get Stonehenge or whatever it was called on Shimmy-Disc for chrissakes)

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 30 May 2003 06:39 (twenty-two years ago)

hey julio - like these are two of the only bands i can be arsed posting about. why the recent luttenbachers gets dissed above is beyond me - they're everything you want prog to be and yeh maybe on decline the drums are so tinny you think they've sped up the tracks & protooled them to hell & back but i think they're the business - like ruins but with a bit more forward momentum and minus the operatics. "revenge of the..." is great sprwling free jazz / grindcore with an inexplicable element of surfyness, "gods of chaos" is their hilarious concept album that is so SKETCHY it's fantastic. free overdub crap with about 5 rocking minutes on the whole disc - i love it! "destroy all music" is w/ k.vandermark, jeb bishop & dylan posa & rocks in a slighly zappaesque dogfaced hermans do circus jazz with acknowledement to METAL. very FUNNY. good. weasel is also on the "hatewave" disc (death metal / grindcore - kinda celebratory& tongue in cheek at the same time - his drumming on that is insane). i taped ye that TLASILA 2 "sequel" to tlasila which weasel was involved in - that really is the free rock BIZNIS. weasels also involved in 7000 dying rats - kinda "comedy" grind / death metal band (they break into the theme tune from beverley hills 90210) on "judas priestley" . when they are just plying tunes they're great - when the comedy agenda is in "full effecet" they aren't although maybe theyve got a neil hamburger angle on the whole thing. don't ask questions about ruins here - i've posted a million times about them so use the "search" function. TZOMBORGHA is the best thing they've done in ages.

― bob snoom, Friday, 30 May 2003 07:33 (twenty-two years ago)

RUINS ARE BETTER THAN frickin' LIGHTINING BLOT!

UHH, NO!!!!!!! NO WAY!!!! UR CRAYZ!!!

― your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 30 May 2003 07:37 (twenty-two years ago)

lightning bolt rock, but, they are rather "heads down no nonsense boogie woogie". at least you can dance around naked in the spirit world to ruins. i always thought that if Goldar out of the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers had a favourite band it would be RUINS.

― bob snoom, Friday, 30 May 2003 07:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, Lightning Bolt is so much better than Ruins. THERE IS NO CONTEST. Although I haven't heard that album with all the keyboards.

[PICTURE AND SOUNDCLIP OF DARTH VADER TELLING OBI WAN THAT "NOW I AM THE MASTER"]

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 30 May 2003 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)

yeh - i dunno if weasel's still doing his ugexplode "archive" series of CDRs now he's relocated to SF but that was what he originally released his duet recording w/ Ms Hoyos on. one i always ment to get but didn.t. Re: RUINS: THAT ALBUM WITH THE KEYBOARDS SUCKS. ruins live is the best thing evah! lightning bolt are the ac/dc to ruins' iron maiden

― bob snoom, Friday, 30 May 2003 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I love Symphonica -- though it did take a while. I had it in the car for months, and after a while, it became the definitive Ruins record for me. Of course, it doesn't quite touch Koenjihyakkei.

― dleone (dleone), Friday, 30 May 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

if only i could get koenji's "II" i'd be a happy chappy.
how come new answers not show right now? is it me? my machine?

― bob snoom, Friday, 30 May 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

heh, a lot of ppl SHOUTING (!!!) here. I'll try and track some of this stuff.

bob- I think I only gave one listen to that tape w/the luttenbachers track but i'll get to that.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 30 May 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

if only i could get koenji's "II" i'd be a happy chappy.

Yes, you would. Also check the Koenji live DVD. They look pretty calm for a bunch of guys & gals performing the music of gods.

― dleone (dleone), Friday, 30 May 2003 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread is hilarious!

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 30 May 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Then why am I not laughing?

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 30 May 2003 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I must be Ruins' keyboard player.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 30 May 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I am Bruin's keyboard player. Bruin is a bear. I have to play music for him while he dicks around trying to get fish out of the river with his paws.

― bob snoom, Friday, 30 May 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

how come i can't play keyboards for a lion or something? idiot

― bob snoom, Friday, 30 May 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

eight months pass...

The new album seems to not be good if you have a headache, but I think it is good if you're stoned.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Saturday, 31 January 2004 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

there's a crazy article by Weasel in the second issue of Providence Machines.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 31 January 2004 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Lord Snoom sorted me out with a copy of one of their recs soon after this thread ended. it was ace.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 31 January 2004 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

There's some brand new stuff to download on the web site. Mostly solo, and more crisp than the trebly-gauze production mentioned above. I looked away from these guys for a couple years, and was jolted back into "total terror reality". Happily.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 31 January 2004 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

The new album, Systems Emerge From Complete Disorder, is great great great. Half of it sounds like Doc At The Radar Station-era Beefheart, and the other half sounds like Jazz From Hell-era Zappa played by a live band. Fantastic.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 1 February 2004 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I also like the record, but is anyone else sort of disappointed that Weasil went with a drum machine for the last track instead of playing it? He made it sound enough like him, but it seems kind of beside the point to have a machine do all that damage when he's done it himself so effectively in the past. Maybe I'm being a rockist, but it makes me happy to know there are crazy people out there who can inflict so much devastation with their own hands. ;)

― dleone (dleone), Sunday, 1 February 2004 03:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't know, man, beefheart/zappa doesn't sound too interesting. does it sound like the flying luttenbachers at some point?

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 1 February 2004 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)

It sounds like someone pounding really big Metal drums over a grindcore riff played by Devo for the most part.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Sunday, 1 February 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, alright, then.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 2 February 2004 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

Young are listening --- DESTROY! ! !

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050323/capt.mnmg10103232000.school_shooting_mnmg101.jpg

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)

school shooter vs. luttenbacher:

http://home.earthlink.net/~quinnah/fls1.gif

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:42 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

Any opinions on Cataclysm or the new (and final) one? Cos this sounds awesome :

Since 1996’s Revenge album (Skin Graft Records), the Flying Luttenbachers’ musical output has been underlined by a gradually unravelling storyline concerning the self-obliteration of the planet Earth and the resulting aftermath. Cataclysm concerns an interstellar battle between two monolithic entities: The Void (a dark, silent spectre detailed on 2004’s album of the same name) and The Iridescent Behemoth (a massive planetoid being whose tale was told on 2003’s mindbogglingly complex Systems Emerge From Complete Disorder album).

― Matt #2, Sunday, 20 January 2008 00:58 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

A friend of mine is doing one improv set with Weasel Walters at the Vortex on Monday (w' always excellent Steve Beresford+John Edwards+Alex Ward+Alan Wilkinson), then there's a hard rock gig with WW, James Sedwards from Nought, and Alex Ward at Cafe Oto on Wednesday. Sorry for what must look like a shameless promo, but I'm thinking people on this thread might be interested, + I think the gigs are likely to be really really good given the people taking part.

― Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Friday, 24 June 2011 23:11 (fourteen years ago)

link for latter here -

http://www.cafeoto.co.uk/weasel-walter.shtm

― Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Friday, 24 June 2011 23:12 (fourteen years ago)

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