Can the laptop IDM set please leave the noise to the "bored with hardcore" people and get back to making us dance?

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I really don't like "noise" that comes from the Powerbook rockers.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

people dance to idm?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 June 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe children.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 13 June 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"the peanut is neither a pea, nor a nut"

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

well, get back to making my drug experiences better.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

have you tried lithium and the new colleen album on leaf (well, wactching CSI, Miami, obviously)? might be a tasty treat.

― doom-e, Friday, 13 June 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Laptop IDM'ers still make funky ass dance records, and that's the soft, pink truth.

(sorry.)

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah that Tigerbeat6 shit is just UNSTOPPABLE HANDRAISIN' FLOORFILLER

fuck laptop techno. software synthesis killed one of my favorite genres.

― Millar (Millar), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

IDM people in noise scene = carpetbaggers

OH LOOK IT IS REALLY CHALLENGING TO MAKE USELESS BLEEPING WHEN I HAVE A MAC WITH A SOUND EDITOR...... OH OFF TO MAC WORLD BYE!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

what's that funny proto-"soft pink truth" song on the matmos "chance cut cure" record that philip sherburne talked about in the wire a few years ago?

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

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― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Famous Athlete, Friday, 13 June 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I think we lost direction somewhere in the course of this thread.

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Friday, 13 June 2003 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

BEST THREAD EVAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 13 June 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

but but but mr millar! but what about the new number remixes and the erase errata remixes??? those are butt rocking floorshakers! also all the neo-berlin jack things and isn't the c. vogel contingent (someone please make up a name for these peeps) just the international precursor to tigerbeat?

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 June 2003 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)

absolutely fecking classic thread!!

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 13 June 2003 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

What/who precisely constitues "neo-berlin jack things"?

I have always lumped Vogel in with the Edinburgh guys because a lot of his early work came out on Sativa.

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Friday, 13 June 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

well, i wanted to get away from precision by saying "things" but ... you could start w/ din-st or dancier bpitch artists or aeox or etc.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 June 2003 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, there is definitely a dance floor thread the runs through IDM. You do not hear it often, but I have heard it. The two main things I think of in regards to that is when I saw Funkstorung do a DJ set at Motor in 2000 (kid606 was playing lap-top 2livecrew cuts up in the next room and was sucking major ass, even then) and they were bring some thunder IDM style. They dropped a lot of bangers, tracks that were definitely IDM but not the fey crap childhood melody tracks that have kind of wrecked IDM in most people’s eyes. The tracks that stood out most to me was the Gescom Vs. Ad Vanz remix 12" that came out on Fat Cat about 5 years ago, as well some of the banging tracks from Tri Repetae.

I also saw Mira Calyx open for Plaid a year or two ago. She was not much of a DJ but by the end of her set she dropped some very hard tracks. She finished up with some Phoenicia remixes that were absolutely killer. IDM has the dance floor potential if people would choose to pursue the direction, but it has become such a bedroom stoner scene that people only make downtempo tracks.

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Friday, 13 June 2003 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

REAKTOR is the new 4track

― bob snoom, Saturday, 14 June 2003 07:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I like IDM. But making noise with a powerbook = gheylordfagort!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Saturday, 14 June 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Jon, there is nothing fagtastic about making noise with a power book.

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Saturday, 14 June 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

my response to all recommendations regarding Bpitch/modern laptop bangers/really excellent glitch/electro-anything is this: If they hadn't all started putting big hickeys on mule penises back in 2001, I might still be paying attention. But lately everything I try to order from Forced Exposure is a big fucking disappointment.

Hardware sequencing is the future. Laptops and VST are like the seven-string fretless locking tremolo w/handle guitars of techno (EG used predominantly by wankers to make crap tunes that are only fun for fellow wankers), and please don't even pretend that actual humans dance to Cristian Vogel. I like his music a lot, and he makes groovy beats sometimes, but I can't imagine what sort of drugs I'd have to be on to get up and start dancing to that boggling mess, unless I was trying to illustrate some sort of point.

― Millar (Millar), Saturday, 14 June 2003 23:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Just think if it'd been called "Intelligent Beat Music" (reasonably accurate) instead of "Intelligent Dance Music" ("BUT LIKE YOU CAN'T DANCE TO THIS SHIT! I WANT MY MONEY BACK MOTHERFUCKERS! LUKE VIBERT WILL HAVE HIS DIRTY REVENGE ON KID606 YOU FUXX!"). Then people could not only be semantically closer, they could call it "IBM" and that's only one letter in the alphabet away from "HAL" and I forget what I was going on about.

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― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 15 June 2003 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)

the 'idm = new fourtrack' thing is OTM because, just like a fourtrack, it's all about charm. Perhaps you're feeling an oversaturation of laptop noise records and that annoys you. I'm not. I can't afford enough records to be sick of anything, I'd rather just check something else out. If average joe justboughtanpowerbook wants to try his hand at something new, I'm all for it. I'm sure he'll add his own charm to it that the analog noise guy won't, and if not at least he tried. Just have a little faith in people.

― Adam A. (Keiko), Sunday, 15 June 2003 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)

How I hate Jerkcity.

― David Allen, Sunday, 15 June 2003 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

How I hate Apple.

Jerkcity is genius. This thread is genius. It's made me - no joke - actually miss working in IT, and think about returning to it.

Although - point of order - Akita's been digital for a few years now.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 15 June 2003 03:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure about Apple or anything, I dont have any bias. I just think Jerkcity TYPING FRAGMENT SENTENCES IN ALL CAPS is not, and never has been, funny.

― David Allen, Sunday, 15 June 2003 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)

David Allen, you don't smoke pot, have gay sex, use UNIX or IRC do you?

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Sunday, 15 June 2003 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I think my problem is that too many people go overboard with production because they can on a laptop. More subtle music please.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Sunday, 15 June 2003 04:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I want to know who is the Bruce Springstein of IDM?

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Find someone omnipresent who appears to have no sense of humor.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Matthew Herbert, obv.

― Sommermute (Wintermute), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Autechre, silly

― Millar (Millar), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

TOM STOP JOKING AROUND

― Leee (Leee), Sunday, 15 June 2003 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

Revive

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 14 July 2005 02:21 (twenty years ago)

let's pretend we don't exist. let's pretend we're in antartica. we'll have bizarre situations.

― msp (mspa), Thursday, 14 July 2005 04:00 (twenty years ago)

"i was never YOUNG"

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 July 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

vogel uses hardware to play live.

fact.

― dick, Thursday, 14 July 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

also, i refer you to jamie lidell's live sets, which fucking rock

but like vogel, he really makes techno, not (spit) I D fucking M

― dick, Thursday, 14 July 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

IRONY!!!!!!

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

PDM

― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

jmp jmp A000, for your love!
m.

― msp (mspa), Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

I've MIDI-synched my bowel movements

― Tigerstyle Shamanic Vision Quester (sexyDancer), Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

180 BPM

― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Thursday, 14 July 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

YOU SEE I TOOK THE SOUND OF IAN TAKING A BONG RIP, PASSED IT THROUGH A BUNCH OF EFFECTS AND THEN STRETCHED IT OUT TO 300 TIMES THE LENGTH. THIS IS MY CAREFUL, ACAEDEMIC SONGWRITING PROCESS.

― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Thursday, 14 July 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

what is this "laptop noise" and why is it so hard to avoid

― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Thursday, 14 July 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

carlos giffoni.
europeans.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 14 July 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

and something like mego, maybe? still pretty easy to avoid

― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Thursday, 14 July 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

I liked the laptop noise I saw at NFF. But a lot of the textures these people work with are so uninteresting and seem to lack a framework to make it anything other than disconnected wank.

― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Thursday, 14 July 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

stop going to college, jon.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 14 July 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

mike shiflet does some great labtop based compositions

― brock (brock), Thursday, 14 July 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Pita to infinity, you asshole. /cry

― Lukas (lukas), Thursday, 14 July 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

laptop idm needs more lively peripherals. i think most rockers i know dislike the laptop because they don't know what the person is doin up there. there's not enough head banging and smoking circuitry.

anybody know anybody with one of those guitars that has ethernet coming out of it? (for fx insanity.)
m.

― msp (mspa), Thursday, 14 July 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

How long has the world been prejudiced against LAPTOP NOISE?

Is this some kind of outgrowth of the hatred of IDM? Is this an anti-gentrification sentiment?
-- Holy Crap! Typhoon is Coming!!! :O (§______________...), August 3rd, 2004. (1 trackback)

― rock critics r gay, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

people's opinions changing over the years shockah

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

if he was REAL and not the hipster he is, his opinions would never change, ever

― macarena is shit, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

"consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds" - ralph waldo "hipster" emerson

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I think most laptop noise is shit but I don't ASSUME all laptop noise is shit.

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

this was a great thread

― Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 03:56 (eighteen years ago)

why does laptop people etc

pre-emptive hearts & candies 2 jon!

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

I kind of feel the opposite and love digital noise scrapes and am always disapointed when I find out a noise band has guitars.

― filthy dylan, Thursday, 23 August 2007 05:20 (eighteen years ago)

Its still annoying to see people approach noise from a computer to noise perspective without having felt teh hum of teh fuzz pedal

and i had a bad dance music show that degenerated into laptop noise and i was totally unhappy u_u

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 23 August 2007 06:21 (eighteen years ago)

i'm kinda hoping the "bored with hardcore" people go away, personally.

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 23 August 2007 07:27 (eighteen years ago)

we'e become the "bored with noise" people

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 23 August 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

is that why i keep seeing kites cds for a dollar.

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 23 August 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

I get so nostalgic for the days when Jon was the only person here who'd post 20 images in a row.

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 23 August 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

bump

― bannable evil (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 3 May 2009 03:37 (sixteen years ago)

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