― Jimmy Parker, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)
It is a good listen.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)
Weather Report, who almost everyone on ILM seems to hate has a few AMAZING funky, free albums. the first s/t, i sing the body electric, sweetnighter, mysterious traveler. all fucking great albums. sort of in the In A Silent Way mold, but freer and heavier. i know that the soprano sax takes a second to get used to (for me at least), but it's not just for smooth jazz. i haven't heard any of the later albums, and i'm sure they're just way too sweet, but seriously check out the early albums.
the first Mahavishnu Orchestra, The Inner Mounting Flame, album rocks my socks off - as do a bunch of the Tony Williams albums. heavy metal jazz.
Alice Coltrane made an album w/Santana called Illuminations that's pretty fusiony
Michal Urbaniak has put out a few freaky albums playing the electric violin and his wife Urszula sings.
and Zappa's Hot Rats (probably the only zappa record i'll ever own) is pretty fusiony
― JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)
NB I have a feeling that most fusion-haters aren't big prog fans either.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)
probably right, but there really is a hipster love of prog, but not of fusion (i'm not necessarily saying there's a racial aspect to this, but....)
― JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave q, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 08:56 (twenty-two years ago)
You would have to define fusion a little more rigorously first - or is it nebulous a term as "prog"?
― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 10:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 10:56 (twenty-two years ago)
Jimpster's "Domestic Science" is simply brilliant and an often overlooked homage to WR. His "Messages From The Hub" ain't too shabby neither.
― nader (nader), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)
Someone should reissue the first Wolfgang Dauner/Et Cetera record.
― dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)
That's why Massive Attack nicked one of them for Safe From Harm :)
― Ben Williams, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)
Weather Report were rather hit-and-miss, but their song "Black Market" is one of my favorite jams ever.
I mostly came into this thread though to hype up The Tony Williams Lifetime, though. They're hella awesome. Their first album Emergency came out a couple months before Bitches Brew, which is widely credited as the first fusion album. It's not though.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)
That's why I mentioned in my post.
(/asshole)
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)
Personally, Live-Evil is my fave piece of jazz/rock fusion.
― dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)
"Zawinful" features different versions of 'In A Silent Way' and 'Double Image' both of which were recorded by Miles. The band is great including Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, Huburt Law and Jack DeJohnette.
"Infinite Search" which was recorded in 1970 features a band that has John McLaughlin, Hancock, Joe Henderson and DeJohnette. Vitous plays acoustic bass, so there is a nice mix of acoustic/electric sounds and reminds me a bit of McLaughlin's first album "Extrapolation" in this way.
― earlnash, Sunday, 8 February 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)
OTM. Let's declare it NO LONGER HIP to hate on Fusion! The revolution begins here!
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)
And there's no "f" in Zawinul, earlnash.
― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hayden (Pow, Pow, Pow) (haitch), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hayden (Pow, Pow, Pow) (haitch), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)
*shame*
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Reed Moore (diamond), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)
On the Corner is fantastic. It will make you wreck your car if played at the proper volume.
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)
True story: Chick Corea made this "soundtrack" album for L. Ron Hubbard's "Battlefield Earth", called Space Jazz. Somehow, the Jazz Record Mart in Chicago -- this awesome, massive record store -- acquired a few remaindered boxes of the thing. Well, they just put them out there in the store with a "Free - Take One!" sign on 'em! And I think it still took 'em at least a year get rid of the suckers. It was hilarious.
― Reed Moore (diamond), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)
Incidentally, if you type L. Ron Hubbard into AMG it says Followers: Chick Corea. No joke.
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)
That is SO unfair to Edgar Winter and Chick Corea.
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― dlp9001, Thursday, 16 September 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)
Jack Johnson and Pangaea are my favourite Miles at the moment.
What about recent jazz/electronica/non-Western music syntheses (Freak In being an obvious example)? Are those still considered fusion?
Also, check out Fiuczynski's Headless Torsos' Amandala - post-Hendrix/Hazel effects-drenched guitar with impeccable chops both with the melodi lines and with the noise, good grooves, Latin percussion.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)
Miles Davis: "In a Silent Way" (is this fusion yet?)Herbie Hancock: "Crossings" & "Sextant"Return to Forever: "Musicmagic"Billy Cobham: "Spectrum" & "The Funky Thide of Sings"Idris Muhammad: "Black Rhythm Revolution" & "Peace and Rhythm"Flora Purim: "500 Miles High"Eddie Henderson: "Sunburst"Jamaaladeen Tacuma: "Renaissance Man"Lalo Schifrin: "Black Widow"Jaco Pastorius: "Jaco Pastorius" & "Word of Mouth"Ray Barretto: "La Cuna"Stanley Turrentine: "Salt Song"
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 16 September 2004 06:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 16 September 2004 06:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― jake b. (cerybut), Thursday, 16 September 2004 08:14 (twenty-one years ago)
I've been on a Freddie Hubbard kick.
For me, Brand X has the greatest rhythm section of any fusion band I've heard. Phil Collins and Percy Jones...man.
― Patrick South (Patrick South), Saturday, 30 July 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 30 July 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)
Most OTM sentence ever written on ILM.
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 31 July 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)
― Keith C (kcraw916), Sunday, 31 July 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)
Has anyone heard Burton's late 60s records with Larry Coryell like Duster or Lofty Fake Anagram? They are pretty hard to find these days, but I have been curious about them for awhile.
― earlnash, Friday, 26 August 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)
― Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 26 August 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)
There is also an article in the current edition of Perfect Sound Forever that has me interested in hearing some Eddie Henderson. I've seen his name mentioned a few times, but have never come across the LPs. I may have to search some out.
http://www.furious.com/Perfect/herbiehancock.html
I also did pick up Ring and Pendulum both. Eberhard Weber is great. The group on Ring is unique if nothing for the instrumentation with two guitarists (one on electric 12 string), two bassists, a vibes player and drummer. I've been on a Gary Burton kick for the last year and have liked every record but one. I could not get into A Genuine Tong Funeral even after a couple of listens, which is Burton doing some Carla Bley jazz opera or something.
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 00:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)
― dlp9001 (dlp9001), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)
I don't hear that much of a similarity between electric miles and most other fusion myself.
― xavier (xave), Thursday, 3 August 2006 00:36 (nineteen years ago)
I went out looking for some background on Henderson and came across this article. It is an interesting read. The guy was also a physician.
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=573
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 18 August 2006 05:30 (nineteen years ago)
felt the urge to pick up one of the early John Abercrombie albums in a store today but I behaved myself. should I go back?
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)
the stuff i've heard is kinda spacey and forgettable but maybe the early stuff is good
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:31 (sixteen years ago)
General Motors pays for a short film about the economics of running a band. The band is Tide, a forgotten 70s fusion/prog/jam band. their drummer was sick. great live footage. The whole thing is basically about Capitalism! It doesn't have a happy ending.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ySTmnmpOpU
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 December 2024 15:28 (ten months ago)
incredible find!
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 21 December 2024 20:57 (ten months ago)
That's rad.
I love hearing drummers rip with, like, a 4-piece kit. From old Genesis to Tony Williams' Lifetime, it's wild what these guys could get out of relatively modest sets. Like, check out this Weather Report performance from 1971:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hIPu0Cusg
Alphonse Mouzon on drums. 4-piece kit!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 December 2024 21:44 (ten months ago)