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when post-punk came back in the last couple of years, it was mostly in the form of the more macho end of things it seems... where are the haircut one hundreds and the fun boy threes of today?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 19:26 (twenty-three years ago)

they're coyly hiding behind the curtain

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 19:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Fritz this is a truly excellent question. I suspect that the answer is pretty complicated & has to do with how the '70s were culturally somewhat anti-macho (Village People notwithstanding), and so the bands of the eighties had a bit of that in them - whereas the bands who're doing the post-punk redux grew up in the eighties, which gives them a bunch of issues.

That said, the Teen Beat bands have fetishized non-macho "alternative" rock styles for ages.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 19:30 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, definitely john... k & teenbeat and dozens of others wore cardigans and horned-rims but it was kind of an indie-boy feyness, not so sophisticated as what i'm thinking of

even emo is kinda macho in its post grunge 'i have all these feeeeelings! arrrrrggggh!' preoccupation... and I guess belle and sebastien are kinda fey in a morrissey meets garfunkle kind of way, but they're no boys next door or cowboys international...i'm thinking white cable-knit sweaters and stephen tin tin duffy

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 19:34 (twenty-three years ago)

(i confess, i may be confusing "sophisticated" with "British" above... as Canadians often do)

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 19:36 (twenty-three years ago)

What word did people use for 'fey' before it meant 'wussy'? Err.. was it 'wussy'?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 19:46 (twenty-three years ago)

"british"

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 19:52 (twenty-three years ago)

"sophisticated"

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:09 (twenty-three years ago)

DMX Krew to thread! although he was pre-post-new-new wave revival and thus forgotten like he never happened.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:10 (twenty-three years ago)

1. a Having or displaying an otherworldly, magical, or fairylike aspect or quality: “She's got that fey look as though she's had breakfast with a leprechaun” (Dorothy Burnham).
b Having visionary power; clairvoyant.
c. Appearing touched or crazy, as if under a spell.
2. Scots.
Fated to die soon.
Full of the sense of approaching death.

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:38 (twenty-three years ago)

DMX?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

3. Canad.
Having a propensity to live next door and wear cable-knit sweaters.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:40 (twenty-three years ago)

only white cable knit sweaters will do

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:41 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.coolforever.com/temp/haircutonehundred_pelicanwest.jpg

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:45 (twenty-three years ago)

i saw a Style Council video the other day and was shocked to remember that Paul Weller had been seriously FEY for like a good decade between the Jam & Modfatherhood

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:47 (twenty-three years ago)

during which decade he actually released an album that honest-to-God was voluntarily suffered to be entitled "The Cost of Loving"

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:50 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGPORTRAITS/music/portrait200/drp100/p166/p16648sr1s8.jpg

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:50 (twenty-three years ago)

actually this thread is just another boring excuse for me to pine for
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000006YUX.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:55 (twenty-three years ago)

What is the difference between your elusive 'feyness' and new romanticism?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:55 (twenty-three years ago)

less piracy, more terry hall

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Terry Hall has just released a new album to keep you happy, you know.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I am afraid to hear it, I may like it a lot.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:58 (twenty-three years ago)

these fey new wave threads always die so quick...

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 21:14 (twenty-three years ago)

what about coloma and junior boys - doing the sensitive stylish new wave thang?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 21:18 (twenty-three years ago)

fritz, check out We Are DMX Krew. you will like it. i think that was the title. came out in 99 or something like that.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 21:27 (twenty-three years ago)

FEY: CLASSIC OR DUD

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 21:29 (twenty-three years ago)

i feel kinda bad that i haven't bought any terry hall records since Deception. i must be holding out for a Colourfield reunion. I have a friend who buys them all so i have heard some of it. me and my friend became friends cuz one day in 1983 i walked into art class and hanging from the ceiling was a homemade FB3 t-shirt! I flipped out. i asked the art teacher who had made it and when she told me i immediately invited him to a hard drinking christmas party at my house. 20 years later, we are still best friends. and that's how fey new wave brings people together!

― scott seward, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 21:37 (twenty-three years ago)

so will there be a fey revival? electroclash can be gay, but not fey. is fey an anachronism in the post-closeted era? or am i missing out where feyness has been redirected now? was fey kind of a post glam hetero-playing-gay thing?

and were the smiths & the cure fey? love cats strikes me as fey, but killing an arab doesn't

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 23 October 2003 01:21 (twenty-three years ago)

The Smiths practically killed fey by becoming its highest exponent ever

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 23 October 2003 01:57 (twenty-three years ago)

what's the difference between fey and twee?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 23 October 2003 02:49 (twenty-three years ago)

twee is in the guitar sounds, fey in the vocal

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:09 (twenty-three years ago)

note: there may be exceptions

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:10 (twenty-three years ago)

where does a-ha fit in here? or felt, for that matter?

― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:33 (twenty-three years ago)

and anyway, terry hall was the only FB3er who looked fey. the other two looked like they'd like nothing more than to smoke a big fat spliff while the poof did all the heavy lifting.

― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:35 (twenty-three years ago)

felt were definitely Fey, not twee

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:36 (twenty-three years ago)

somehow, i suspect that nick drake and david bowie are both to blame for all this feyness.

― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:38 (twenty-three years ago)

nah, most people didn't even know who drakey was til the late 90s

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:40 (twenty-three years ago)

that doesn't let ol' queen bitch off the hook, though!

― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Thompson Twins "hold me now" = most fey song ever.

― sucka (sucka), Thursday, 23 October 2003 04:21 (twenty-three years ago)

How about My Favorite?

― Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread is so weird.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:13 (twenty-three years ago)

how so?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:26 (twenty-three years ago)

(though i think the Nick Drake thing is a serious red herring)

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

re: "Hold Me Now."

...no, i'd have to say Foreigner's "I Want To Know What Love Is" has got it all beat to hell in the feyness department. which also negates the notion that the British have some sort of monopoly on "TEH FEY."

― janni (janni), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe someone will start up a bootleg series called "Killed By Fey".
Maybe.

― Stephen Boyle (SBoyle), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

but some members of foreigner were brits!

― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Weird because everyone's terms of reference seem to be completely different.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:48 (twenty-three years ago)

what, you never thought of Foreigner as Fey New Wave before?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:53 (twenty-three years ago)

That was the only bit I could understand.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:55 (twenty-three years ago)

oh, dear. fancy that!

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:56 (twenty-three years ago)

hrrm, point. i guess possession of the Foreigner Belt has led me astray. so sorry.

although, this also reminds me. watched a bit of "I Love the 80s Strikes Back" on VH1 last night and someone put forth the notion that "Tears for Fears was Depeche Mode for straight people."

discuss.

― janni (janni), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Was/were Japan fey? They always seemed rather Howard Jones/ Paul Young to me, in the vocal department. Never got past that... or the fretless bass.

Tears for Fears was Depeche Mode for gay people with no taste.

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Japan are little too Glam and Roxy Music-descended to be Fey.

Fey New Wave, as I see it, is a little less flamboyant than that - more sweatery and afraid of sex... though still kind of hipper and more nightclubby than today's indie kid.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 23 October 2003 17:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Modern Romance

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 23 October 2003 18:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Fey is Brian Eno after he learned moderation.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 23 October 2003 19:38 (twenty-three years ago)

OK fey is officially all things to all people.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 23 October 2003 19:39 (twenty-three years ago)

*goes off to form band called Fey Reye*

― janni (janni), Thursday, 23 October 2003 20:08 (twenty-three years ago)

How about Soviet?

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 23 October 2003 23:04 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...

... that's easy for you to say

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Tears for Fears was Depeche Mode for gay people with no taste

I can't believe someone thinks this!

― me, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

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