Top Of The Pops Relaunch: Who Is Excited By It?

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Friday sees an hour long special, Theres a big fuss about bands performing live. According to reports Andi Peters has cut the amount of music by 36%and the number of performances from 11 to 7. Victoria Beckham is on it. The following week they will show her 2 videos and the viewers will choose which song will be the A-Side. 1 will be n r'n'b/Hip Hop track and the other will be a more traditional pop song. The following week she will perform that track LIVE.
Three weeks on the show, surely a guaranteed no1 due to publicity.
Apparently also in the 80s TOTPS viewers were mostly over 25 as reported by markey research. So just who are they aiming at with the new launch? Is it any wonder adults stopped watching it when the BBC tried to aim it exclusively at kids and discourage adults?

So who thinks new look TOTPS will be a success and will you be watching it?

Bob State, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Can anyone verify that Gary Davies once introduced 808 State as 'Bob State? If true thats up there with Dexys Midnight Runners playing to a picture of Jocky Wilson.
Anyone got other favourite clangers?

Bob State, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparently also in the 80s TOTPS viewers were mostly over 25 as reported by markey research

In the early 80s, i was 10 in 1980 i watched every week till around the mid 80s - since then hardly ever.

I will not be watching the new look TOFP, as most of the music in the charts means nowt to me.

Anyone got other favourite clangers? John Peel at the end of a Bon Jovi track - those guys give music a bad name.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i's all live, says peters, but acts are aloud to mime. erm?

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Another Peel moment - after the video of the Aretha Franklin/George Michael duet he said something along the lines of "Aretha Franklin can make any old rubbish sound good - and indeed, i think she just has." Priceless.

Neil FC (Neil FC), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

This doesn't really sound a very positive move... a TOTP with *less music*? Goes against its very purpose surely?
Focusing to an extreme on certain artists seems to smack of the way Wes Butters runs his R1 chart show; can they not try and showcase as much of the NEs and climbing hits in the chart as possible?
Whether videos/live or mime performances; doesn't bother me that much, though I suppose the tradition has been to have people in studio, and that has worked in the past.

Is this the Andi Peters of yesteryear? How has he assumed control of TOTP if it be he?

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

If Andi Peters has got anything to do with it, it'll suck like nothing has ever sucked before. He must be in his thirties, yet he always comes across as a rather precocious five year old child.

Neil FC (Neil FC), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

IMO they shouldn't be so obsessed over who they are *aiming it at*. The show surely is with us to reflect what is popular with the British record-buying public. It would do well to cut the insufferably tedious interview and backstage bits (these really grated when last I watched TOTP); like Wes' antics on the chart show, it must turn off a whole swathe of people who just want to listen to the music.

It seems generally that hit singles are more generally the preserve of younger people; 12-25 say. I see no reason why it is essential that there is a young host, or a 'yoof' tone to the programme. Surely, the ability to create excitement in the music, and a sure hand in terms of the presenter, is key. Having people behind the show and also in front of the camera, who care about music and could not just be involved with any shouty youth programming (c.f. Theakston, etc. etc. the people they have generally) is a *must* for me. Whether young, or old; that should not matter.

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

my favourite TOTP 'clanger' amounts to Jenny Powell's announcement following the Stone Roses performance of 'Fool's Gold' in 1989 (on the same fookin fantastic show that the Mondays did 'Hallelujah') that their new album would be out early next year.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I read in the paper tat the reason they are dropping from 11 to 7 performances is to have more gossip, interviews and behind the scenes reports on the music industry. Though the star bar is gone.
They are also desperate to get a younger audience as that has been falling rapidly as kids think its out of date.
Also in a recent survey http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3238992.stm
82% of British people polled also said the singles charts was not an accurate barometer of musical taste.
The show has to reflect that.

And heres the answer they have : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3239478.stm

Kylie Minogue and Sir Elton John are to help launch revamped BBC chart show All New Top of the Pops on Friday.
Sir Elton will perform his hit Your Song live from Atlanta, Georgia, while Minogue will be in the TOTP studio.

The show will also screen the video for troubled singer Michael Jackson's track One More Chance, expected to make the top five in Sunday's charts.

Victoria Beckham will join the live one-hour special and The Darkness's Christmas video will have its première.

The show will continue to be broadcast live every week.

The Michael Jackson video is a "performance video" of the singer performing the track One More Chance, made to coincide with the release of album CD Number Ones which topped the UK album chart on Sunday.

Jackson was last week charged with child abuse following a police investigation in the US.

'On merit'

A BBC spokeswoman said the video was being shown because Number Ones had done so well.

"All New Top of the Pops is showing the Michael Jackson footage as part of the album chart countdown where his album is currently number one," she said.

"The decision to air this performance is based purely on the merit of Michael Jackson's music. To not reflect his popularity with music fans would look odd on a chart-led music show."


Former Spice Girl Mel C is to host a special 40th anniversary edition of Top of the Pops to be shown around the world.
The New Year's Eve edition of the show will be shown on BBC prime and seen by audiences in Europe, the Middle East and Africa. Viewers will be able to choose their favourite performances from the last 40 years of the show.

J. Shaw, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

WTF?

Are they trying to turn the Friday TOTP into the Saturday TOTP? Will they have Busted on every week, as well?

A longer show with less music, how is that possible? Are they just going to turn it into a chat show or something? I mean, Feoarn (or however you spell her name) is hot and all, but I wouldn't want to see her all. the. time.

Citizen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

it is no longer the same show. but TOTP was pretty much dead to me already. hope they don't mess with TOTP2 tho...

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Dennis Pennis was cool when he presented it. He introduced Skunk Anansie as something like 'they're just like a skunk; they're black, they're white and they stink'. I think the rest of his line were quality too but I can't remeber any of them.

I laughed and then went out and did something less boring instead.

neil simpson (neil simpson), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Sounds like this revamp is going in exactly the wrong directions... why pander to a *perceived* liking people have for backstage gossip and celebrity nonsense? This new element in recent years on TOTP certainly hasn't interested me, and I'm in the target range: aged 21. TOTP wouldn't really be the same if it slid more into being about albums. Is the intention as it seems, to try both to get the very young audience with having less music and more backstage business, as well as get an older audience with having Elton etc. and presumably bringing albums into the equation, like the R1 chart show?
This attempt at straddling two very different audiences simply won't work. TOTP needs to simply be about the most popular music in the week. Trying to appeal overly to one 'audience' will turn off another.

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Another of Pennis introductions "Later on we'll have the new single from Peter Andrex- so called because he goes on, and on, and on"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Viewers will be able to choose their favourite performances from the last 40 years of the show.

'...'

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

That's the new face of TOTP, Tim Kash. Think he's presenting it on his own...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

he does MTV News currently

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

And here's the new logo. Note that, despite ripping off those hats the Pet Shop Boys used to wear and the Pet Shop Boys being number 10 in the singles chart at the moment, the Pet Shop Boys will not be appearing on Top Of The Pops this week.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Tim Kash: Pop TV's wunderkind

The BBC is putting its faith in youth, hiring a virtual unknown as the face of the All New Top of the Pops.
When the first All New Top of the Pops is broadcast live on 28 November, the BBC will be hoping the fresh face of Tim Kash will give the old show new appeal.

Described by the BBC as an "edgy, quick-witted and talented presenter" and "one of music television's rising stars" he is a surprise choice as the front man for the BBC's flagship music programme.

Twenty-two-year-old Kash was not even born when the first ever Top of the Pops (TOTP) was broadcast in 1964.

Let's just say that by 30, I want to have had an international best-selling autobiography

Tim Kash in 2000

From Kingston Upon Thames, in Surrey, he is already the youngest ever presenter on music network MTV in the UK.

According to the MTV website he spent his first 18 years "dreaming of becoming a Jedi, joining the Rebel Alliance".

But his relative youth will be the very quality TOTP producer Andi Peters will be hoping can make the programme relevant for an audience which has left the show in droves.

If nothing else. he is certainly a strong contrast to former DJ and TV host Jimmy Savile - TOTP's first ever presenter.

'Biggest'

Before his new appointment, he had begun to gather a lot of fans working on the news side of MTV's Total Request Live.

Kash himself described the MTV show in the very terms Peters will be praying are translated to TOTP.

Earlier this year he said: "It's going to be the biggest and best.

"For the level of guests, live music and getting these big names to hang out and talk about stuff you normally don't see - no other programme can compete."


Website

Interestingly, Kash will continue to present for MTV and the hope is that there will be a level of cross-pollination with the more youthful cool of Total Request Love rubbing off on TOTP.

Fittingly for someone so young, Kash's star qualities were spotted on that most youthful of mediums, the internet.

Three years ago he was a presenter on Network of the World (NOW), which was billed as the world's first converged TV and web service and mp3TV, an online music show.

He has also worked on the gaming website Gamer TV.

Despite his tender years, Kash certainly does not lack confidence.

In an online interview for NOW in 2000, he spoke of "Tim's Master Plan".

'Worth writing'

He explained: "If you're asking what's next for me, then I couldn't possibly tell you. But, if you want to know what I intend to do in the next five years, then that's another story altogether.

"Let's just say that by 30, I want to have had an international best-selling autobiography. Why? Because if I have that, then the next 10 years of my life will be worth writing about."

It is not the first time that the BBC has turned to youth to try and reinvigorate a flagging programme.

Last year 24-year-old Wes Butters was plucked from obscurity to front the chart show on BBC Radio 1.

But listening figures have declined since he took over - although a poor year for chart singles is being blamed.

A spokesman for BBC Radio 1 said: "We are really happy with such a young presenter who is out there buying singles like his listeners."


So Will , Is Wes Butters to blame?

Ryan A, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I dunno. Will the new TOTP involve talking over Evanescence and playing Robbie Williams every single week?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Still, give the feller a chance - no-one's seen the new TOTP yet, and I've not idea whether or not this man is any good as a presenter.

But the omens don't seem that promising.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

He's not Feoarn = I hate him.

Citizen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Sounds like a lightweight in the Wes mould, sadly... when all people have to say for themselves is: he spent his first 18 years "dreaming of becoming a Jedi, joining the Rebel Alliance"... :-/

But yeah, maybe one is prejudging far too much - having never seen his MTV show or him in any context - but I don't sense that it is a choice based on anything to do with music. Maybe he's an assured presenter, I don't know; but the precedent of Wes is not a good one.

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree with Kate. The only presenters I could countenance were Fearne or Miquita & Simon.

I've no particular objection to less music if they can think of something interesting or funny or even vaguely relevant to fill up the time.

Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I heart Feaernne. She makes me wish I was a lesbian. Or maybe Alex Parks.

Citizen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm surprised they've lost Fearne, actually, considering she was the sole watchable thing on TOTP/BBC 1 this past year... maybe too much of a desire to break with the past?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I think they should bring back guest presenters (like the era when people like Jarvis presented), or presenters like John Peel, who'll actually have something interesting to say in between all the singing bits

jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Kash is predictably inoffensive and anodyne and unlikely to offer the same spark as Richard Bacon let alone Simon and Miquita

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

She'll still be doing TOTP Saturday, won't she?

Think they might be doing it in the presenters unique to shows template - main TOTP will be Kash, TOTP Saturday Fearne (& Reggie Yates?), TOTP on BBC3 Margherita & Bacunt. Which is a good idea, just a shame about some of the presenters (see if you can guess which one...)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

more M25 corridor fodder - the presenter of a certain networked commercial radio chart show which gets more listeners than the Radio 1 chart also comes from Kingston-upon-Thames, perhaps *that* is their idea ...

robin carmody (robin carmody), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe she's going to go off and try to have a career or something. You know, like Smarmie Theakston tried (and failed).

Citizen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Think, if what Stevem says is true, they might be looking for some kind of male Cat Deeley thing. Which isn't that great.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate, you wish you were Alex Parks? Crikey.

So, ya'll want the goss on Tim Kash? For the whole of 2001 I was one of the hacks providing shimmering copy for the aforementioned Network Of the World/mp3tv website/TV station thingy from which Tim sprungeth - in fact, I wrote a fair whack of his scripts back in the day...*

Well, maybe his sudden leap to fame might make mp3tv a bit easier to explain during interviews. Every cloud etc.

*oh, the glamour.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

what you saying carmody? i was born in or near k-o-t in the early 80s and no-one's handing me any contracts.

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't mind Bacon these days but TOTP would be best if the presenter was a shoddily designed robot/computer (DR Who W.O.T.A.N style) called Poptron 4000 who announced each act in a vocoded fanfare of exhuberance, like the robot thing that Brains sometimes played with in Thunderbirds also, or 7 Zark 7 - fuck me that would rule.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

i've said it before but you have to take the revolution further guys! wbs shd present it. 'popular' cd become totp 2. think big.

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha ha, can you imagine if ILM was a television show?

Citizen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you remember Popped In Crashed Out?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

What soap opera would it be?

Ryan A, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

It would be a pretty diverse show... :-)
Indeed actually, the more coordinated approach of a "Popular" would really help TOTP2; certainly contextualise the songs, rather than just dip in as it does from one thing to another, with cheap Steve Wright jibes at the fashions of each era.
And yeah, William would have to present TOTP... though a rotation system of hosts would be nice. For the designated "one serious music programme on BBC TV"; "Later with Marcello Carlin"? Would be quite a show I'm sure! :-)

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i would just play quirky animation music videos obv.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

later with marcello wd be k-classic, going on his legendary jools spoof.
cheap Steve Wright jibes
written, once, by stuart maconie.

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

ILM TV would consist of ten seconds of a track with Greir alternating with everyone else going "No that's just wrong" and putting another track on...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

well if Q can have a channel, which is basically a logo plus some copywriting, why not have ilm threads as 'copy' on a music channel devoted to nowpop?

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I can see a 'Later with Marcello' starting with a sombre, Buster Keaton-faced pianist tinkling away Jools-esque, backed by an African choral group and then suddenly an orchestra conducted by Trevor Horn starts to startlingly puntuate the music, joined soon by a ghostly brass band, playing like the New Vaudeville Band on downers, who then lurch into the most visceral free improv... DJ Robin C., on the decks, would guide things towards the rural and the hip-hop by turns, or at the same time.
MBV/Glenn Branca guitarists would then suddenly leap out below the high-shot cameras, in Busby Berkeley formation, and well, it wouldn't be 'Later with Jools Holland'. ;-)

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

ILM's My Kind of Music

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Kash is awful, smug smarmy and obviously uninterested in what he's doing most of the time.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Another Pennis TOTP classic: "Some people think this'll be a one hit wonder - personally I think that's a bit optimistic."

I seem to remember Lee & Herring being great when they were on.

So the moral of this story? Get presenters who take the piss out of the acts, ie. get Simon Amstell.

Nick H (Nick H), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

never get a human to do a machine's job

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I was really pleased that Chris Cowie was given the elbow but this seems even worse(less music,boring same presenter every week,equally shit logo,crap live performances)

Paul R (paul R), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"Is this the Andi Peters of yesteryear? How has he assumed control of TOTP if it be he?"

Yes, it is the same one. Peters has been at Channel 4 for the last few years as the head of youth programming, where he was responsible for instigating the T4 strand among other things.

Philip Alderman (Phil A), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, right... curious the overlap between young children's programming today and 'youth', in terms of personnel.
I always remember Peters as a bland constant on Children's BBC during much of my childhood.

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

yeh he was no Simon Parkin

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 November 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Andi & Emma on Live & Kicking was ace, and I was looking forward to seeing what he did with TOTP, but this 'less music more chat' thing is insane. TOTP's audience is IMO "old people" who like to keep across what "the kids" are listening to. Or perhaps that's just me.

harveyw (harveyw), Thursday, 27 November 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm rather pleased that at last there will exist a telecast pop show which showcases young persons' fickle tastes. I really am looking forward to seeing such young entertainers as Tommy Steele and Billy Fury rip it up on live telly.

Now only if they'd bring back The Old Grey Whistle Test, what with that coked-up ex-copper compere and those endless Humble Pie sessions.

Them were the days.

A Dedicated Follower of Fashion, Thursday, 27 November 2003 11:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Peter Kay. Get bloody Peter Kay to do it. I'm serious.

Assuming Chris Morris wouldn't.

You have to wonder about the chances for the programme when the BBC's own site feels the need to enlightnen us all by helpfully adding that MTV is a 'music network'. And when 'virtual unknown' stands for 'having your face all over MTV, every hour, on the hour'.

Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Thursday, 27 November 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

How can all new TOTP fail with Tim Kash as the presenter?

Oh, wait. Hang on. Who else reckons that the BBC are trying to kill the show off slowly?

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 28 November 2003 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Kash will continue his work on MTV alongside his new role at the BBC; additionally he will front a new weekly half-hour "behind-the-scenes at TOTP" show for MTV.

What the fuck?

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 28 November 2003 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)

extremely typical of the new Superbeeb under Greg Dyke.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Friday, 28 November 2003 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)

This isn't the first time they've re-launched TOTP with new presenters and "live!!!" performances!!!!! I remember when they suddenly dropped all the Radio 1 DJs, cobbled together a new logo and theme tune (from the boffin out of Erasure!!!!), and introduced two new presenters who were obviously ordered to smile at the cameras all the time under pain of death!!!!!!! One of them in particular had such a forced smile I wondered if they had wired his jaws together!!!!!!! I don't think the MTV presenter can be as bad as that- as long as he doesn't do any sub-Zane-Lowe-style "ironic" "humour"!!!!!!

The only real prob AFAICS is the "less music, more celeb" ideas!!!! I mean, it's not as if most of todays popstarz are actually intresting in any shape or form!!!!! Anyway, I thought fluffly showbiz gossip was NME woops I mean Smash Hits' department!!!!

Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Not sure Tim's clever enough to be ironic without a script telling him how, bless him.

All the same, I await tonight with interest.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 28 November 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Those folks with TVs will give their opinions here won't they, on the new format? (says I, leading a TV-free existence for 2 months while at University).

Tom May (Tom May), Friday, 28 November 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

For the love of God, make it stop!

, Friday, 28 November 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

The irony of unveiling a brand new show about 'new' music and opening it with Elton John doing some old song from the 1970s must be intentional. Well done Andi Peters.

The bit about the Darkness in the US was reasonably interesting: why hasn't TOTP been doing this since the BBC got rid of 'The O Zone'?

Tim Kash has absolutely no on-screen personality, though. They show him reading out his lines in front of a huge crowd and it comes across like CD:UK crossed with Children In Need, only there's a complete lack of background noise until the 'spontaneous' applause is started off by some dude behind the camera waving at the audience.

I'll being bollocksed if they think I'm going to 'text in' on 0898 666 TOTP or whatever the fuck, however.

And I don't need to be reminded every four minutes what's 'still to come'. I'm still to come, obviously. It's not been that good so far.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 28 November 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Nelson Mandella: WTF?

On second thoughts, Top Of The Pops HAS turned into Children In Need.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 28 November 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

'You don't miss your water'!

Thank God we didn't hear it.

Pete S, Friday, 28 November 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

hot fudge. i never thought i would see that phrase on totp.

Pete S, Friday, 28 November 2003 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Lisa Maffia performs an 'exclusive' medley. Of two songs. Lisa's quite pretty, but she's joined on stage by a curious he-she. Check that Adam's apple.

Tim Kash heads outside to the petrol station over the road from TV Centre to interview some stalkers Blazin' Squad fans. Lord, don't encourage them. You would have thought the BBC had learnt something from the Barry George debacle.

Blazin' Squad and a cast of literally thirty jog around outside on that fountain outside the BBC reception that you always see on Children In Need. Spot a running theme, anyone?

Don't think anyone except Elton has actually sung live yet.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 28 November 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I am incandescent. Peters has fucking blown it. Come back, Wes, all is forgiven. Till Sunday afternoon, anyway, but sweet Jesus. I am fucking livid.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 28 November 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow. That was quite spectacularly awful. I didn't see any smiles which weren't obviously faked, Tim Kash is the biggest cunt at the BBC since Wes and even Victoria Beckham looked like she couldn't be arsed with it. Did any of the music have any connection to what's actually in the charts this week?

The Craig David-in-South Africa thing was hideous. Why did anyone ever think that this would make for good television? I have no idea what they even want TOTP to be any more.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 28 November 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)


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BBC's revamped Pops is launched


Kylie sang live on the show
BBC One has re-launched veteran music show Top of the Pops with a new look and format to boost ratings.
The new, longer live show was kicked off by girl group Mis-Teeq and also featured performances by Will Young, Elton John and Gareth Gates.

The re-launch was hit with the late withdrawal of a Michael Jackson video because it was not ready for broadcast.

And the show ended in embarrassment when wrong answers were shown on screen in a Robbie Williams competition.

In a heavily publicised competition, offering a trip to see Robbie Williams in Australia, the viewers were asked to choose between three completely wrong answers.


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Viewers were asked to name the singer's first number one single in the UK, out of a choice of three: Freedom, Angels and Old Before I Die.

In fact, William's first UK number one was Millennium in September 1998.

Later, the question was re-worded to "first solo hit" and a viewer rang in and said Freedom and was rewarded with the trip to Australia.

Top of the Pops through the years


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The programme was fronted by new host Tim Kash, who introduced the show, saying: "Good evening and welcome to the first All New Top of the Pops."

The revised format included the singles and album chart, studio interviews, music news, competitions and 15 different performances.

In a throwback to the show's roots, audience members featured heavily, although they often seemed more startled than excited by the cameras.

The show was a mix of live performances and pre-recorded material.

Before the start live guests were paraded along a red carpet, with attendant paparazzi , in attempt to give the show a more glitzy, "event" feel.


Will Young performed his song Leave Right Now
Sir Elton John performed Your Song, "direct from Atlanta", in a clip of a recent concert he performed in the US city.

There were also live performances in the studio from Pop Idol Will Young.

Victoria Beckham appeared on the show and told host Kash: "It looks fantastic. The BBC budget has gone sky high."

BBC executives will be hoping the show will be able to claw back viewers and return to the days when the show had audiences of six million.

The new show is the vision of executive Andi Peters, who was brought into the BBC to give Top of the Pops a change of image after viewing figures halved to three million since 1995 amid competition from other music shows.

He said the fact that singles sales had fallen sharply in recent years showed there was a need to offer different types of music, including album tracks and unreleased tunes.


"I felt that we had to broaden the appeal to make it more popular to more people," he told BBC Breakfast.

"There are a lot of people who do not buy singles but buy albums and so by reflecting the album chart it will help us keep our market share."

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Did you watch the new Top of the Pops? Will the new look and format help boost ratings or is the programme no longer required viewing for music lovers?


It's got a much fresher, sharper feel than before. It had become almost unwatchable before with the ridiculous star bar and dated theme music - now I'll probably have it on if only in the background each week. Although hopefully someone will do something to make it look slightly less obvious when someone is holding up signs to the crowd saying "scream and applaud". And please...put it back on Thursdays before Eastenders.
James, London, England


They say less is more. Surely, the original formula is what makes TOTP? Anything else is just another mediocre show.
Kelly, England

How many times can we say "new" in a minute! Rubbish. Could have put money on Peters filling the screen with logos and annoying "coming next" - we don't all have attention spans of seconds. Can't say I'll be watching again.
Philip, UK

Why do we need that logo in the corner of the screen?
Graham Kirk, uk

What the hell is the logo doing in the top right hand corner? It didn't work for T4 and it won't work for TOTP.
g lane, uk

I'd like to see some other genres played - how about some more rock or metal, since that is usually always pushed aside for what pre-teens dictate for everyone else as "popular" music?
Svend "Dreadknux" Joscelyne, UK

Yet again the show has missed the chance to show which artists are truly talented by making them play their songs live with real musicians and no backing tracks. Go on I dare you.
Andy, UK

I'll stick with the specialist music channels, thanks all the same.
Jim, UK

TOTP is my favourite programme. Revamping the show is cool because albums will be explored.
Mo Bangura, UK


I have avoided totp for years now. It is aimed at a childrens market.
bob, UK

Since when has "backstage gossip" supplanted music as a subject worthy of the channel's attention?
Sky Holden, uk

"It's NEW, it's ALL, it's ALL NEW Top of the Pops! Coming up next on ALL NEW Top of the Pops, is ALL NEW Top of the Pops acts and ALL NEW Top of the Pops songs that are ALL NEW (Top of the Pops)..." [repeat 400 times without blinking] Erm yeah, think we got the message...
Stuart Manning, UK


A phone-in competition where none of the answers shown on screen is the correct answer!
Richard, UK

Having an impossible to win Robbie Williams competition may have saved us some licence fee, but unfortunately they incorrectly said Freedom was his first number 1! I wonder if they can really mess up so badly or was it just a stunt to make the papers tomorrow? Apart from that, the new format was an excellent carbon-copy of CD-UK.
Simon Chiplin, UK

Come back Pan's People - all is forgiven.
Dominic Carman, uk

The music was the same as ever, but the "new look" made it look like CD:UK; TOTP should be innovating, not following its rivals. Don't start me on the presenter - all the personality of Will Young's microphone stand.
Stuart Taylor, UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3245744.stm

Ryan A, Friday, 28 November 2003 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)


Top of the Pops' all new gamble

Ryan A, Friday, 28 November 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Possibly the worst episode i've ever seen. What a shambles. Elton John LIVE AND DIRECT (from a few weeks ago)
Its hard to imagine anyone over 14 watching it...but then again it's hard to imagine anyone under 14 wanting to watch it either.
With MTV and the like theres no point in showing videos, but advertising , infact making a big deal about, acts playing live but with them clearly miming, whats the point?
The whole program is a joke.
Top Of The Pops is dead.

Who watched TOTPS? Did anyone like it?

Bob State, Saturday, 29 November 2003 12:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Sounds awful; almost like the BBC aen't bothered if the show dies off...

Tom May (Tom May), Saturday, 29 November 2003 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Pretty damn abysmal. Will was the only person who I would have described as good because he didn't go along with the overblowness of it all. I found the woman trying to hang herself throughout Westlife's performance hilarious. Elton John seemed to be drunk he was singing so badly.

Tim Kash was woeful. Zero personality, it could have been a shop dummy wearing a Tim Kash mask. What was wrong with Fearne?

It was just an all-round amateur show.

Nick H (Nick H), Saturday, 29 November 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The BBC's revamped Top of the Pops show drew an extra two million viewers for Friday's live relaunch.

Simon G, Saturday, 29 November 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Amusing contrast between the 'it went great!' vibe of the article, and the 'it was dismal' tone of the comments beneath.

Muppet Boy, Sunday, 30 November 2003 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)


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