Why are all the good Hip-Hop films comedies?

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Hot Boyz excepted, coz its not about hip-hop at all!

this coming from rewatching fear of a black hat and realizing that it's so fucking hip-hop that everything that was satrically outrageous at the time has come to pass and MORE.

particularly poigniant moment -- closing sequence with Ice Cold explaining how the word "n---a" is an acronym for something etc. and flashing to pac's never ignorant, getting goals accomplished.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Sterl, what would you like to see in a hip-hop comedy?

(Btw, it's your fault that I'm enjoying the screwed version of the David Banner album today.)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought Menace II Society was a pretty good drama...I don't know if you consider that "hip hop" though....(also, I haven't seen it for years so it may not have aged well)

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

(Ignore that last question -- uh, I misunderstood the thread title a bit.)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

the thread premise has an extraneous 'hip hop' in it

― the same o.g.???, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Because we get our bootie juice bottled at source.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

anytway fear of a black hat isnt that funny

― the same o.g.???, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe to john darnielle

― the same o.g.???, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

is this thread in reference to any movies with rappers in them, films with a certain kind of 'hip hop style' or those rediculous straight to video movies with the no limit crew, etc?

or all three?

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

menace was totally not hip-hop.

also fear of a black hat is great! "see this picture! that's me with the white dude who sold me that car!"

also there are some good movies besides comedies, in general, but none feel at all hip-hop!

i'm going with "hip-hop style" here, which encompasses all the other types sometimes.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

did anyone see Paper Soldiers? Was it any good!?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Menace II Society is the best drama-wise, and is pretty unassailable as hip-hop culture - what with the cameos by Too $hort and Yo Yo, plus MC Eiht in a central role, and QDII (fresh from Ice Cube's last good album "Lethal Injection") doing the music.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I always associated Cooley High with hip hop....I remember that being a pretty decent coming-of-age teen drama.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

menace really wasnt as good as dead presidents ,technically pre-hiphop but somehow more hiphop despite itself, sterl for some reason i imagine this as your fav movie ever

― BOUNTY KILLER, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

also sterl : the psycho-turned-religious guy as chad hugo : e40's son who plays guitar

― ashanto, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

and youre cornel west too

― NASTY PRAS, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Loved you in The Matrix Reloaded!

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

SHUT UP

― baby gangsta, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

what about ghost dog?

― robin (robin), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Ghost Dog's as funny as fuck, though.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

omg u guys make sure u only get the JAPANESE SOUNDTRACK WITH NO RAPPING!!!!!!!!!!

― fresh prinze jr, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Im trying to think of a good rock and roll film that isn't a comedy.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Belly . (ducks)

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Snoop Dogg was in that movie "Bones".

― adam michel (adam michel), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

8 Mile wasn't a comedy. It wasn't particularly good either.

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Wild Style wasn't a comedy. It wasn't particularly good either.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

8 mile was the least hip-hop film about rap ever. I'm trying to think of films where it somehow feels like someone took an album and made it a movie, and the thing is some hip-hop ALBUMS aren't all that funny, or they're dark funny, or etc. but all the hip-hop MOVIES are pretty-much funny-funny or like Hot Boyz they're hip-hop dudes doing a totally different move.

also, on the 3% tip, b is the second letter of the alphabet.

think about it.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)

???

The hip-hop aesthetic

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

god what a miserable thread that was.

(the latter was a quote from fear of a black hat. i can quote that movie all day right now.)

i've got this idea about self awareness in playing performatives, racial construction etc. tied into bakhtinian approaches to humor that i'm gonna really tear into should i get into grad school. i mean what this thread's sorta driving at i guess is located around that idea

Cry Baby is the best rock film and its a comedy, but Tommy is a rock film and it isn't, nor is Quadrophenia, nor is Blackboard Jungle or La Bamba. Is Flashdance a rock film?

I guess that movie about dancing with Jessica Simpson was pretty hip-hop and not a comedy. It wasn't bad either.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

god what a miserable thread that was

I tried.

City Of God was pretty crunk, IMO. More hip-hop than many American films made in the last 2 or 3 years. Not a comedy, either.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Is La Haine hip-hop? Somehow, I don't think it actually is.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i honestly have no idea what "crunk" is other than "synth heavy and shouty but also dark and with chimes sometimes" coz i have a hard time pinning down by banner is like lil jon is like bone crusher is like etc. also i've never seen city of god, so what makes it crunk?

when i think of crunk i think of the outkast single "rosa parks".

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

What about "How High"? i thought it as hilarious, and FAR weirder/more random than it had any right to be.

― El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 06:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess that movie about dancing with Jessica Simpson was pretty hip-hop and not a comedy.

Jessica Alba, I believe.

Unless Jessica Simpson really did make a hip-hop movie about dancing. In which case, how fast can I get to the theater?

― The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah Honey is the new one i want to see. i'm thinking of the one set in chicago -- save the last dance! which is julia stiles, not jessica simpson.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 07:43 (twenty-one years ago)

the other thing which inspired this was the one really good scene in Boyz N the Hood where doughboy does this "dudes are just walking around with guns cause they want to look hard" thing and someone's like "don't even play man, you do that too." and he's like "oh yeah, right" and then the other maniac "gansta" starts firing this uzi off into the air and everybody runs.

that scene was comic magic!

speaking of which, Baby Boy is another film that I'd class as hip-hop and comedy and good. also The Wash. Snoop is sometimes a comic genius. Barbershop, on the other hand, was sorta meh. Especially the ATM subplot which just dragged, the bogus "heart of the community" values, etc. The whole film should just have been Cedric going off on Jackson.

i mean Chicago barbershops are community hangouts, sure, but its not like they're *going* anywhere or carry that much frikin tradition with 'em -- the kids actually go to ones with younger barbers and the old foax go to another. there's actually this chain in hyde park with "the blues barber" and "the jazz barber" and i've been to both and the blues barber was all old people and the jazz barber was all young people.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

both gave great fades, but since i have straight hair that didn't matter much.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

dude, Belly fucking rocks.

― OCP (OCP), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

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