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It's about time. It's like someone's finally stuck up for the nice, smart, weird kid, whom the class dickheads beat up every day at recess. Hating Yes is the most unpunk attitude of the post-punk era.

Or not. Rock is dead, this is the nail in the coffin, etc.

Thoughts?

― otto, Monday, 9 February 2004 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I equate this with my assessing the touchstones of Gangsta Rap. I have no business doing so.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I gather that "reassessing Yes" was done om ILM some years ago. Personally I've reassessed Yes and come to the conclusion that they still suck.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Wakeman killed Yes dead.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Good for Wakeman!

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

pfrok in being "behind" ilm on the yes thing is kinda suspect since dominique is one of the ilm people who probably started the whole reassessment. (though i will admit this does make me kind of wish ethan was still writing for pfork.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

As far as I'm aware, everything's been reassessed on ILM some years ago. I'm wondering about a wider, unsuspecting readership opening up this morning's Pfork and seeing a garish, green Yes greeting them. Dream come true, nightmare, or neither?

x-post

― otto, Monday, 9 February 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Even that twat from Belle & Sebastian is saying he is a Yes fan now

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

The only Yes album i own is Big Generator. Do they mention it? Ah, the Rabin era.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Wakeman killed Yes dead.

Ned OTM!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Best Yes moment: "Tempus Fugit"....no Wakeman! no Rabin! no Anderson! Yes Buggles!!!!!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The only Yes album i own is Big Generator. Do they mention it? Ah, the Rabin era.

....if only he hadn't been assassinated

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Bill Bruford picked the right the time to leave.

It is the same with King Crimson, if Bruford is in the band, the record is usually pretty good.

― earlnash, Monday, 9 February 2004 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I've always quite liked Fragile, honestly, despite its hoary, overblown aspirations.

The Most UN-"Punk Rock" album ever..

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

"Hoary Overblown Aspirations"

If I ever form a prog rock band this is what we will be called.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Were Yes ever hated in the first place? I must have missed that. Seems to me they always got mixed reviews. George Smith wrote one up in the Voice a couple years ago, in fact. More than a few critics liked "Owner of Lonely Heart" in 1983. More than a few have always called "Roundabout" the best prog rock song ever. Something Robert Christgau wrote (I forget what) made me realize a long time ago that the guitar at the beginning of "Going for the One" basically sounds like rockabilly. And I think he liked "All Good People" even more. (And he liked Steve Howe in general, I think, and hated Rick Wakeman.)

Anyway. Where is this Pitchfork thing? And what exactly was there to "reassess"? If Pitchfork ripped off ILM, who did ILM rip off???

― chuck, Monday, 9 February 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Were Yes ever hated in the first place?

I don't think they were so much "hated" as routinely derided for being such a ridiculously easy target of ridicule for those who rightly or wrongly considered Prog Rock to be a bloated, limping horse aching to be put out of its corpulent, pus-oozing misery.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

yes = easy target for the lazy cynic.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anyone have a link to the article, btw?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Here

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Didn't "Owner of a Lonely Heart" hit the r&b charts?

I think it did, which is something most prog bands never accomplished.

― earlnash, Monday, 9 February 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the IDEA of wakeman-era yes ... more precisely, a bunch of ridiculously pretentious english hippies yammering on and on about footnotes in obscure swamis' books, with over-the-top organ/synth work by a guy (wakeman) who has absolutely no use for all of that hippie nonsense and would rather eat his burgers and drink his beer.

sadly, the music itself that resulted from this fusion never really interested me.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, my mind has been completely blown. I will now have to completely reassess everything I had heretofore thought about popular music.

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

The only factual thing I have any difficulty with here is the bit about "multi-part suite naming formulas". These bands (from what I understand) didn't do this to be pretentious, they did it because of royalties. Someone can flesh this out for me/correct me, but didn't they receive more royalties if they had more songs listed even if in reality they weren't separate songs?

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I have no idea why someone would think we were trying to rip ILM off, especially as I wrote a Henry Cow review a while back that also happened to spawn a thread about prog-reassessment here. I mean, any music with a bad rep will be forever ripe for reassessment, but in this case, I think the reviews are pretty standard stances for the records (at least for fans), with the possible exception of Relayer.

― dleone (dleone), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Didn't "Owner of a Lonely Heart" hit the r&b charts?

How on God's Green Earth did anyone ever mistake this track for r&b?????

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

haha alex are you sure you should be deciding what is and isnt r&b now?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

they did it because of royalties. Someone can flesh this out for me/correct me

Blame me, I took Chris Dahlen's line about that out in the final edit. :(

― dleone (dleone), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I like "Close to the Edge", w/wakeman, but after that, quality tails off pretty quickly. Bits of "Relayer" and "Going for the One" I like, everything I hear from after that I find pretty useless, really. It's too "straight" sounding. I agree w/whoever said (upthread) that bruford leaving is when they started to go downhill.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never claimed to be any sort authority on r&b (being that I can't stand 99.9% of it) but really......YES???????

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

>>Didn't "Owner of a Lonely Heart" hit the r&b charts?
I think it did, which is something most prog bands never accomplished.<<

"Another One Bites the Dust" by Queen was a much BIGGER r&b hit, though. (As was, I think, "Beat Box" if that's what it was called by Art of Noise, who weren't much less prog than early '80s Yes were.)

― chuck, Monday, 9 February 2004 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Christ I defended Yes years ago! I even got a Yes tape from someone not very far away from these boards (if you read this at all thanks for the tape Daf)!

God that's a shit review from Pitchfork though. I will write one for Freaky Trigger tonight, I PROMISE. The article might talk about PANG too but that will make it even better.

I MEAN COME ON: ice skates! capes! king arthur! and funny noises!! I can even quote from Rick Wakeman's bio (brilliant bluddy book IIDSSM).

― close to the EDGE (starry), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

1983 >> Jon Anderson, Tony Kaye, Chris Squire, Alan White, and newcomer Trevor Rabin re-form Yes and switch the new lineup to the Atlantic subsidiary Atco. Yes submits the LP 90125, which peaks at #5 on the U.S. charts. The album contains the hit single “Owner Of A Lonely Heart,” which tops the pop charts and crosses over into the R&B genre as well (#69); overseas the single peaks at #28 on the U.K. listings.

http://www.rhino.com/spotlight/yes/yes_facts.lasso

Weird, but true.

― earlnash, Monday, 9 February 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

The Relayer reassessment is interesting. The dissonance of that album is usually what draws people to it, makes them think it was as avant-garde as Yes were to be. It's my favourite Yes album to listen to all the way through but I'll probably keep this review in mind next time I listen. The Peter Banks albums are pretty good I think, better than the earliest Genesis anyway.

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

But in 1983, r&b frequently meant stuff like "Rockit" by Herbie Hancock, which wasn't that far from "Owner of a Lonely Heart" (at least in its great 12-inch remixed version) OR "Beat Box".

― chuck, Monday, 9 February 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahah xpost with Pashmina - Close to the Edge is BRILLIANT.

I half want to listen to GONG now because I like the ~~cut of their jib~~sorry, sound of their name. Rolls of the tongue nicely don't it? It's better than "Alex Parks" or "Jive Bunny".

Maybe not the last one.

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

1980 Another One Bites The Dust Club Play Singles No. 2
1980 Another One Bites The Dust Pop Singles No. 1
1980 Another One Bites The Dust Black Singles No. 2

― chuck, Monday, 9 February 2004 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

1984 Beat Box Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks No. 10
1984 BEAT BOX Hot Dance Music/Club Play No. 1

― chuck, Monday, 9 February 2004 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Relayer is the best Yes album. Close To The Edge is a close second.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

The way samples were used in "Owner of a Lonely Heart" was very high tech production for its time.

― earlnash, Monday, 9 February 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Was "Close (To The Edit)" a Yes gag then?

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes.

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

(aaaaaaaah)

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

The way samples were used in "Owner of a Lonely Heart" was very high tech production for its time.

Of course, but does that alone qualify it as R&B?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

No, but the bassline does, and I think they did a breakdance routine (could I be any whiter?) to it on Solid Gold!

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Generally well-done, but no way no how is Topographic Oceans worse than Tormato. Seriously.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

hiphoppers loved that horn/AON sound.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

but everybody already knows that.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

http://nfte.org/interviews/images/tr270/tr270_3.jpg

Trevor Rabin....R&B PLAYA!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

he's from south africa like dave matthews, right? they got some funkay white boys over there.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

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dude, I did upthread!!!!

― zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 12 February 2004 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...

In case you care, Magnet reasses Yes, too. I'm not sure if this link goes straight to the page--if not, go to the live reviews--Yes is the third one down. Fucking surreal.

http://www.magnetmagazine.com/

I try to imagine that coming out in '94 and just can't do it.

― sterling, Friday, 16 July 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

Yes on PBS, post pres. debate treat.

Thursday night 9/30 on PBS.

10 pm
Soundstage "Yes - The 35th Anniversary"
The longest-lasting and most successful of the 70s progressive rock groups, the band Yes comes together with their classic lineup (Rick Wakeman, Jon Anderson, Steve Howe and Chris Squire) celebrating their 35th year together. The show opens with the band entering the arena to Stravinsky's "Firebird Suite." From that moment forward, Yes delivers an unforgettable performance including classics such as "Going for the One," "Your Move/All Good People" and "Yours Is No Disgrace." Midway through the set they scale things down a bit and perform dazzling acoustic versions of "Long Distance Runaround," " Roundabout" and "Owner of a Lonely Heart," among others. The concert culminates with a rousing rendition of "Starship Trooper." Howe and Wakeman's dueling solos coupled with Anderson's powerful yet delicate vocals make for a memorable finale.

― peter banks, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.trismccall.net/notes_from_the_front_yessay.html

I'm not sure which was first, but I think this guy reassessed around the same time, and probably did a much better job ("probably" because I didn't actually read the pitchfork one, only his)

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

He doesn't give Relayer enough credit.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"the band Yes comes together with their classic lineup (Rick Wakeman, Jon Anderson, Steve Howe and Chris Squire)"

What's Bill Bruford so busy doing now that he couldn't be coaxed into a big gig like that?

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

That trismccall thing is interesting stuff, though leaving Drama out's unwise. And so is "Death-defying mutilated armies scatter the earth/crawling out of dirty holes/their morals disappear"--the armies gather near, dammit. But otherwise, pretty fair.

Anyways I wonder if on this PBS special they'll do it right or cheese out. An unplugged "Owner of a Lonely Heart" might not be the best idea.

― peter banks, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Peter, man, that guitar solo on "I See You" was pretty lame.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Was Yes really so big and so polarizing that punk rockers were really so up in arms against them? That just seems so bizarre, given the availability of more obvious targets like Rod Stewart or The Eagles (or Abba or Barry Manilow). Did those bands actually single Yes out as a band they were 'opposing'? Was it really that hard to find stupid 3-minute pop or rock songs because "The Gates of Delerium" was so ubiquitous? Well, I guess when I saw Jello Biafra speak some years back he talked about how he was a rebel for listening to the MC5 and Iggy Pop when his friends were all "getting into jazz-rock fusion and . . . Yes?!"

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm starting to think my English professor was right about the "empty oppositionality" inherent in pop culture.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Keith Levene loved(loves) Steve Howe. How (post)punk is that fer ya?

The YES lineup on that PBS special mentioned above are the same lineup that absolutely killed when I saw them earlier this summer in NYC. Plus, I love Wakeman. Tony Kaye=yaaawn.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Sundar, they hated Yes. Just hated them. Too soft. Too into music and not enough into fashion. I mean, capes? Mushroom asteroid belts? But goddamn were they good.

In terms of my own empty oppositionality, that trismcall guy got wrong Michael Moorcock in Blue Oyster Cult I think. Wasn't that Meltzer who wrote lyrics for them, and Moorcock wrote some lyrics for Hawkwind? That green font is nice though.

― peter banks, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Was Yes really so big and so polarizing that punk rockers were really so up in arms against them?

No. Who the fuck cared about Yes in 1976/77?

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

... and you're right, "more obvious targets like Rod Stewart or The Eagles" were far more hated than Yes, who were just irrelevant

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

What's Bill Bruford so busy doing now that he couldn't be coaxed into a big gig like that?

Playing jazz!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"Bill Bruford too busy" - sums up his drumming pretty succinctly I'd have thought

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

irrelevant to who?

― peter banks, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Punk rockers and pretty much everyone who wasn't a Yes fan

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

... plus Moorcock did write lyrics for BOC - check out the rather splendid "Black Blade" for one

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Moorcock did write some lyrics for BOC as well as for Hawkwind.

Yes had a no1 album in 1977, so obviously someone still cared about them.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah but not people who matter in Jedermann sein eigener Fussball's mind. They're still a polarizing band, a prime inspiration for hipster bile, a topic maybe or maybe not worth its own space.

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Haven't heard "The Black Blade," sorry, dude. When I think of Moorcock I think Warrior on the Edge of Time and Chronicles of the Black Sword.

― peter banks, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you kidding? Hipsters LOVE Yes!

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

None that I know. I've been vilified at parties for daring to mention them. But maybe there weren't enough hipsters there.

― peter banks, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The hipsters you know just aren't hip enough

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I suspect the hipsters have moved elsewhere. prog reappraisal = so 2002, I think.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Where did all the hipsters go?

― peter banks, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Who the fuck cares?

Bill Bruford rules, FFS.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they went to English Folk Music but i don't know where they are now exactly

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

All the pretty hipsters, listening to Fairport Convention and Comus. It warms the heart.

― peter banks, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I think a lot of times these "what hipsters like" arguments are semi-irrelevant. It's true that hipsters go through phases en masse sometimes (the English folk music thing was OTM), but what music an individual "hipster" will like still usually has a lot to do with his or her personal musical tastes and preferences (if they have any). I have a lot of friends who, no matter how trendy it got, I could never IN A MILLION YEARS convice to like Yes, and likewise, I'll never like certain fads of the last few years, such as Neil Diamond, John Denver, and the entire 1980s (excepting maybe The Police, Talking Heads, and Devo). Not that I'm a hipster or anything, cause I'm not.

"Bill Bruford too busy" - sums up his drumming pretty succinctly I'd have thought
-- Jedermann sein eigener Fussball

Come on! His triplet hat-snare-kick/snare-hat-kick fills on Heart of the Sunrise are a gift to the drumming world!

"Bill Bruford too busy" - sums up his drumming pretty succinctly I'd have thought
-- Jedermann sein eigener Fussball

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

What, I missed the Neil Diamond fad? Dammit!

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://users.rcn.com/rschrade/vgallo.jpg

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, fuck that shit. That fuckin' picture wasn't even that big. Stupid annoying nu-nu-ILX.

http://users.rcn.com/rschrade/vgallosmall.jpg

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I rest my case

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

PAH, ex-Dada, if the fact that asshole 'a' likes this or that band proves anything, then Can would be pure shit b/c bbby gllsp likes them.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

But Can have ALWAYS been hip, so no great achievement to say, "I don't care what the punk orthodoxy says I'm going to like BLAHBLAH anyway, in fact, I'm MORE punk than you because I like BLAHBLAH"

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't really give a shit about any of that, though - "hipness" & all that. I like the adverts, and i like yes, and i like can.

Did you hear the today programme on r4, btw, where they were doing a thing on the 50th anniversary of the fender stratocaster? apparently one of the pundits they had on seriously claimed that - get this - guitar solos are now dead due to the excesses of prog rock!!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

If he'd been on a programme about the 50th annivesary of the double-necked Gibson SG it might have made more sense!

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The whole canard about "long guitar solos" is fuckin' stupid to begin with. Sure, long INSTRUMENTAL PASSAGES are a sine qua non of most prog, but I can't think of a single Howe SOLO that lasts as many bars as the solos on "Freebird" or "Like A Hurricane" or the coda on "Layla", or hell, how about "Sympathy for the Devil", and all those are straight-up classic rock. I guess the beginning of Close to the Edge is a fairly long solo. Maybe some stuff on Topographic Oceans (I suppose they had to flesh that thing out somehow), but I dunno -- haven't listened to it a few years.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Most of the standard arguments that get trotted out, like that one in particular, don't really hold up to much if you look at them logically. Honestly, I think people who don't like prog don't want to admit that they just don't like the voices of prog singers and maybe some of the keyboard patches and guitar effects.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe they just don't like the songs, the music, the lyrics - you know, stuff like that

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Is anyone else watching the Soundstage thing right now? Who is that dude playing that guitar-like tabletop slide-played thing? And what is that he's playing? And how the hell can JA still sing that high?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 2 October 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I guess that is Howe - he's aged. What sort of guitar instrument is that though?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 2 October 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Mandolin heaven!

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 2 October 2004 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

(As in that's what he's playing now, not the slidey thing.)

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 2 October 2004 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha - yeah I watched this thing last night! After the debate. It ruled. And yeah, poor Steve looks like he's about 80!!!

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Saturday, 2 October 2004 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

oh and as far as this thing goes:

Thursday night 9/30 on PBS.

I call BULLSHIT!! The did NOT play "Starship Trooper"!! The last song was "And You And I", for fucks sake!

But, it WAS a pretty version of "And You And I". It's just that I ended up with "Starship Trooper" blue balls.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Saturday, 2 October 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Jon Anderson's speaking voice actually sounds like his singing voice!

Thanks for letting me know not to wait up for "Starship Trooper". But, fuck, that acoustic version of "Long Distance Runaround" - how much do these guys practise?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 2 October 2004 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if I'd still like this stuff if I was a white guy who grew up with my Dad listening to it.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 2 October 2004 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Great version of "& You & I", yes. Awesome 12-string harmonics action. Is Wakeman using the same keyboards as he used to? They actually sound a little better and modernized on this.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 2 October 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

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