PROBOT ALBUM RELEASED - YOUR THOUGHTS?

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Only picked it up last night, so still sinking into it, but so far the track with Cronos of Venom, "Centuries of Sin" packs the heartiest punch (and boasts the most obvious hook). I also quite like the track with Voi Vod's Snake, "Dictatosaurus". Sadly, the Lemmy track, "Shake Your Blood", sounds a bit like a phone-in.

The packaging, by the way, is highly glossy and lovingly detailed (although that can't be a current pic of Cronos, who probably has about nine chins by now).

And King Diamond, despite his entertaining demonic cackle, remains embarassing.

Yer thoughts?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

'remains embarassing'??? does not compute!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

an early candidate for best cover art of the year, very voivod-ish.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

The lettering is Voivod definitely -- not sure about the guy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

who would win in a fight: probot vs edward scissorhands

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I've only heard "Dictatosaurus" and it rocks like Plymouth. Not to be all Aja and such but I'm really liking Dave Grohl lately. Chick Corea colab nonwithstanding.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, the AMG 'bio' for this is longer than for most real bands.

I might have to get it just for Dave Grohl playing heavy metal drums.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

No surprise there; the artwork and logo are both by Snake (or whichever Voivod member does their stuff).

Here's my review, for the Cleveland Scene. The last sentence needs a modifier to make it seem less clumsy/tacked-on, but that's the editor's fault, not mine.

Anybody see Probot live on Headbangers' Ball this past Saturday night? The lineup was Grohl, some friend of his whose name I can't remember on bass, Wino on guitar, Stephen O'Malley (or maybe it was Gregg Anderson) on second guitar, and Eric Wagner on vocals. They played Wagner's song from the album, and it was pretty good.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

No surprise there; the artwork and logo are both by Snake (or whichever Voivod member does their stuff).

Heh, well, there ya go! At least it wasn't in Angel Rat style, that was a bit off.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm such a sucker for compilation-style albums.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

It sounds good. Amusingly, the Lemmy track sounds *loads* like Motorhead even before Lemmy starts singing

Jason J, Wednesday, 11 February 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

No surprise there; the artwork and logo are both by Snake (or whichever Voivod member does their stuff).

It's the drummer/mastermind of Voi Vod....who rather incongruously calls himself "Away," although I guess that's better than what the guitarist calls himself, that being "Piggy".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait. Is part of the "r" in Probot connected to the guy? That's weird.

Mitchell Wimbish (Mitchell), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all connected to him. Look! He's half logo, half machine

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Pretty good stuff, though Grohl needs to hone his double bass chops.

dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Does he play double bass on it?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I the only one who's psyched about the PROBOT album in February?

There's one track where it sounds like he is, but it could be just single bass really fast. Anyway, it's a metal album, he really should be doing this anyway. ;)

dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

The album is merely good, not great. The guest performances are great, but sometimes get bogged down by Grohl's dull songs. King Diamond's performance steals the show.

abegrand, Wednesday, 11 February 2004 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I downloaded about half the album before formatting my hard drive and losing it all. Not quite as extreme as I would have liked, nor as innovative. The Grohl influence is minimal - what instruments is he playing? A lot of tracks sound like generic songs of the guest musician's, if you know what I mean. "Shake Your Blood" is pure Motorhead etc.
Still, big respect to Grohl for doing this project. I'll have to check it out a bit more when my comp's up and running and who knows, I may even by the thing if only for the lush artwork.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

THE LEGEND OF THE PROBOT

When he noticed the signal in the cold sky over his mountain lair, Tom Warrior was making fine adjustments to a large machine. He lay down his small wrench and blinked his eyes in disbelief. “It has been a very long time,” he said, turning his gaze towards a formidable but dusty war helmet on the shelf behind him.
At the same moment nearly a dozen time zones away, Eric Wagner dropped his wooden hammer and nodded. Looking at the signal above him, he touched the silver cross around his neck. 2,000 miles yet further west, Max Cavalera closed his knife, set aside his carving, and tightened the strap on his leather wristband. “Woman, fetch me a horse,” he called into the house. “Please.”
Within hours, these three and the few others like them were all gathered in a large circular steel room somewhere on the California coast. The scarlet light of the sinking sun lit the top of the domed glass ceiling, casting weird gleams on a well-equipped war room. Without warning, a large curved computer monitor on the wall crackled to life. Caught by surprise Cronos flew onto the patterned steel floor, his long hair held upright in the static field. “Shit, man!” He cursed, clenching his fists.
The screen filled with the image of a gigantic android whose beveled grey titanium skin was a spiny forest of tiny gleaming spears, wet with an unknown yellow liquid. Mike Dean shuddered and looked away. The steel beast opened its red eyes and fanged mouth, revealing an endless black chasm. “Aaaahhhhhh! You have each heard the call of the Probot – that is GOOD! I am pleased that after so long, so many of you were willing to come. You are brave.”

The big beast cast its gaze across those gathered before it: “You have all been selected for your unique talents and powers…”
“…Cronos of Venom, you were chosen for your mastery of raw iron.”
“…Tom Warrior, you bring your knowledge of machines.”
“…Wino, you are our emissary to the eagles and other birds in the skies.”
“…Max Cavalera, you shall bring the four-legged things to our mission.”
“…Snake, you will show us the tiny microbes we can not see.”
“…Mike Dean, we welcome your contact with plants and organic things.”
“…Kurt Brecht, you are the word of living man.”
“…Eric Wagner, you are an oracle to prophecies to come.”
“…Lee Dorrian, you will remind us of the folly and fantasies of ghosts from the past.”
“…and King Diamond, you are the conduit to the spirit realms.”
Each of the ten titans grunted when identified, in coarse tones as distinct as the notes on a musical scale.
“…And Lemmy –“ the imposing being stammered, “-- well, you’re just so fucking cool!”
All eleven were stunned by this last gushing outburst. Snake noticed a long blue cable, tracing its path from the screen to a closed door on the nearby wall. “I discover your avatar!” he pointed and cried.
On the screen, the creature slumped. “Hold on, hold on…” came a small voice.
After some clicking of locks, a slight figure in a Motorhead T-shirt jogged into the room. Offering a friendly wave, he thrust his hands in his jeans pockets, smiled and said. “Hey guys, I’m Dave Grohl. Sorry for all the fuss. I had to be sure you were with me on this. I’m really bad with rejection.”
“Oh Jesus,” Lemmy muttered, rolling his eyes and pulling on his chin.
The boyish man in the sneakers continued: “Hold on, I’m serious about this all Probot stuff. We are living in crisis, and I’ve been turning to your teachings all the time. It’s not just me -- there are a lot of people out here in Hollywood who feel the way I do. We rule the world, but we’re fucking it up. Look around this room. We are choking on all of this technology, and I’m turning to you now to fix things. Seriously.”
Now confident, he handed each man a black envelope containing a digital disc and the keys to a 20th Century automobile. “Each of you has a mission to complete. I hope agree to complete your part, because our reality needs you bad. You can be sleeping giants no more.”
Suddenly, a loud clattering came and a pile of shields and staffs spilled to the ground. A rotund figure with a speckled beard kicked and sputtered, his pink monkey tail curling up behind him. “A spy falls amongst us!” snarled Lee Dorrian, reaching for his blade.
Dave Grohl laughed and shook his head. “Oh Jack Black – I can’t keep a secret from you after all! Yes, I guess I have a mission for you as well, my old friend,” he said, producing a final package from his back pocket and handing it to the interloper.
Everyone laughed together. As soon as drinks were procured, they held the gleaming discs high above their heads and shouted in unison: “Now we are all Probot! We rule the day and the night!”

On the screen behind them, the mighty robot smiled, and through his razor lashes gave a wink that cracked open the sky.

-- as told to Ian Christe

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I have not the words.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, i would think that the coolest part of the epic Probot film would be the montage where all the Heroes gather up their long-disused weapons/axes/etc, and each begins One Last Pilgrimage to the central meeting place.

Wait, Kurosawa is dead, isn't he? There goes that idea...

Kingfish Beatbox Botox Funktion (Kingfish), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I just have to say again that I really enjoy "Centuries of Sin".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG there's a BONUS TRACK. Is that Chronos?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll probably get some sort of money for my birthday so, I'll look for it after my birthday.

Oh Alex, I have the Japanese edition of Killing Joke the 2003 album. It has two bonus songs. It doesn't have "Wardance" on it though. I was just courious and wanted to know if you have it? You might not.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Ok yeah, some tracks are kinda mediocre, but some are really good (esp. the first three tracks and the King Diamond one). I really do like the fun, fan-produced vibe.

(and no, I didn't note any double bass)

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"Silver Spring" is so damned goofy, but the rest of the album has me all "FUCK FUCK FUCK why didn't I get into metal sooner?" "Red War" is a lock for C700GO! '04.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that Chronos?

Ed. note: Read the legend! Nuf sed,

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:12 (twenty-two years ago)

???

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I HATE THE FUCKING VOIVOD ART. Haven't heard the music, but I'm not too crazy about the names I've heard. Voivod, Venom, Lemmy, the new guy from Sepultura?? bleh....

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:12 (twenty-two years ago)

That is weird looking. I have seen worse though.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Sometimes this kind of thing is bad. This is going to teach kids to listen to Voivod. Like they were some kind of important band in the 80's.

I thought Tom Araya was going to be on here. And maybe I was wrong about the new guy from Sepultura. Isn't the guy from DRI here too?? Thats cool at least.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:19 (twenty-two years ago)

How young are these kids your thinking of Johnny?

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha. 12??

Just those kids who haven't heard Voivod - especially the late 80's stuff which I'm sure is what Dave liked. To me their music was decent but it hasn't stood the test of time at all. I can still hear that Snake guys voice "it goes on and on and on ..... please ..... no .... (weird riff)" I thought Dave was into DEATH METAL.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Max was the original singer of Sepultura. And yes, Kurt Brecht from DRI is also on it, yes.

What's wrong with liking Voivod? Nothingface = classicclassicclassic

Tom Araya - and Glenn Danzig - are glaring ommissions, I agree. But the album rulz.

I thought the bonus track was Tenacious D?!???!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Holy shit! Mike Dean! Maybe they did a crazy Animosity type hardcore song??

Voivod was OK. Dimension Hatross was better than Nothingface if I HAD to pick one.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought Dave was into DEATH METAL.

He said it was one of his favorite types. He never said he hated metal. I think his favorite was punk, mainly from DC.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Trust me I prefer metal from the 80's over death metal anyday. I'm just a bit surprised at who he got here - King Diamond, Snake from Voivod. Of course I can't forget he had to ask these folks and they had to agree to do it. Maybe he couldn't get the dude from Sacred Reich or the dude from Testament - whose voices still actually sound sort of good today.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Sacred Reich - also rans.

Testament got pretty shitty round Souls of Black, and have not really recovered.

Come on man get with it - death to false metal!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:33 (twenty-two years ago)

All I think he really said was that he thought it would be cool if_______ would sing on this track kind of thing. At first he couldn't picture anyone singing on them.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Testament got shitty after the New Order. Sacred Reich got shitty after The American Way. They were both still better than Voivod ever was.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Uh, no. Voivod were a law unto themselves.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Voivod's singer sucked. They weren't heavy. They had ugly melody. They sucked.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:39 (twenty-two years ago)

No way!! Come on, man, go back and listen to Nothingface and tell me you'd rather listen to Surf Nicaragua!! Or "The Ballad" by Testament!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll need to hear Voivod.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:40 (twenty-two years ago)

They weren't heavy

Damn, man. I mean, everyone has their own standards and takes but in what universe is something like Dimension: Hatross or Nothingface not heavy?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I listened to Surf Nicaragua last week. I still love the first two songs. One Nation is still perfect. Now THATS heavy.

I listened to "Chaosmongers" about a year ago and just laughed. Not heavy - I mean the guitars are always on some high-note run and everyone is just doing some not-that-heavy stuff. Sorry, I don't like em.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:43 (twenty-two years ago)

*bows* I humbly suggest you try listening to more than one song.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:48 (twenty-two years ago)

You like Slayer Johnny. Is that really heavy? I only have one of their albums.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I've heard all of Dimension Hatross and Nothingface, Ned. I don't like em.

Yes, I like Slayer. I think they're heavy. More importantly, since they are a hardcore metal band, they are agressive. Reign In Blood is better than Sacred Reich, Testament, and Voivod's entire careers combined.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked Best Wishes pretty good. Nothing compared to The Age Of Quarrel though. Thats one of my favorite albums of all-time. The Cro-Mags were definitely heroes.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:29 (twenty-two years ago)

It wasn't just Harley's singing that brought the Cro-Mags down. I HATED the production on Best Wishes. And it wasn't much better on Alpha Omega. That band should never do anything unless John Joseph, Harley, and Parris Mayhew are involved. And Mackie's drumming on Age Of Quarrel was totally underrated too.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Agreed. "We Gotta Know" still gets me amped.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Thats where its at - NYHC. Cro Mags, Bold, Youth Of Today, Beyond, Judge, Agnostic Front, Crumbsuckers, Sick Of It All, Burn, etc etc etc etc. I know I'm forgetting someone I loved back in the day...

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, you're forgetting Murphy's Law and Warzone, but i never really liked either of them too much.

That Burn 7" is still awesome. "We have killed...and...shall be...judged..." pity Orange 9mm sucked so hard. I used to see Chaka skateboarding all the time.

Mucky Pup?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I actually wasn't real crazy about Youth Of Today but they were huge. I liked that first Judge album and 7" a lot more. And I didn't really like Bold until Tom Capone joined for "Looking Back". Those four Burn songs were just perfect. Its funny you remember the "shall be judged" part. Thats exactly what comes to mind when I think of Burn. That Beyond album "No Longer At Ease" was totally underrated and ahead of its time. Thats a sick lineup - Tom Capone on guitars, Alan Cage on the skins, and Vic DiCara turned out to be a bad-ass bass player.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Needless to say, Quicksand was great. But those guys were veterans and if you knew them from their previous bands it was a little disappointing.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Ditto for Into Another. A guilty pleasure - that first album sounds like Sabbath!

That book American Hardcore (which, overall, isn't great) has some good chapters on NYHC - tho it makes us noo Yawk boyz look like mindless thugs in direct contrast to the hifalootin men of principle in DC

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not a Noo Yawk boy but I always wanted to be. I remember the back of some album - I wanna say Youth Of Today - where it had like 15 or so of the guys from Bold, Youth Of Today, Gorilla Biscuits just standing under a bridge or something. I used to just love that pic for some reason. I always wanted to be a part of that. Of course I smoked weed and never was into the straight-edge movement so they probably wouldn't have liked me. I would have fit in more with the smart-asses in SOD/MOD/Nuclear Assault.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahahaahaa! You didn't miss much dude!

I broke two wrists at Biohazard / Kreator at The Red Spot - one of my first shows

I hear Life of Agony is back together. hmmm

gotta hit the sack. later man

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't heard the music yet, so I can't comment on it!!!! But what sort of name is Probot?!??! It sounds like something you take for hemmoroids!!!!

Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Thursday, 12 February 2004 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

"Probot: now with Cleanus."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I was just courious and wanted to know if you have it? You might not.

Got it, Aja (actually, I had two copies for a while), but thanks.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuckaduck! This thread certainly took off!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

A few comments:

I've heard the Tony Iommi solo album mentioned upthread. Don't remember much about it, but it wasn't painful to listen to or anything (unlike, say, The Eternal Idol). I got to interview him right around then, because Sabbath were gonna be on Ozzfest and Alternative Press was doing the tour book. I don't care how jaded you think you are, when Tony Iommi calls you at your house, you're 14 years old again.

My favorite NYHC band was Breakdown. That cassette demo they put out was just so fucking great. "Sick People" is still one of my favorite hardcore songs ever.

My promo copy of the Probot CD doesn't have the bonus track, and that makes me happy. I hate Jack Black.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm going to have to scroll back and read all this stuff, but how did we get onto the subject of NYHC?

In any event, my fave would be NYC's own proto-hardcore band, KRAUT!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh THAT legend. Sorry for being an idiot.

(mega time delay x-post)

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Speaking of Nevermore, Dave should have gotten Warrel Dane to do a track. That would have been off the hook...I'm sure he could spare some time in between Nevermore and drinking.

I knew some guys in a local, early 90s metal band who actually worshipped Sanctuary as their primary influence. I wonder if I still have that Into the Mirror Black cassette lying around anywhere.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

If this Probot thing takes off, maybe the next Moby album will feature a dozen great lost NY hatecore vocalists. If this Probot thing takes off (not saying it will), the cow will be milked!

I like the School Violence demo circa '86 that begins: "Hi, we're School of Violence from New York City..."

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 12 February 2004 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

, the cow will be milked!

The cow has to be exhumed and resurrected first.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone else know (or care) what's going on with the vinyl of this album? When I arrived in the shop I work in today I kept finding different versions - red, black, and black & red splattered (the coolest, of course). Yet neither Southern Lord nor Southern distribution (UK) mention any special vinyl package. Is it 5000 copies for the world or what? Nice that you still get the bonus track, even if it's shit (I haven't got to it yet). Is School of Rock any good? Linklater must've at least made a semi-decent movie, surely?

radio morocco (radio morocco), Thursday, 12 February 2004 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, the Jack Black track is really good!(made it at last).

radio morocco (radio morocco), Friday, 13 February 2004 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I got the album today! I haven't had time to listen to it yet but I will soon.

Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 03:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm actually enjoying this.

I haven't gotten that far though.

Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.highadmiral.de/sis/droids/probot.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 February 2004 05:35 (twenty-two years ago)

The one one the album cover is better!!!!!!

Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I started to play my guitar and it sounded like part of one of the songs on Probot.

How wonderful. Now I can rip off Dave Grohl anytime I want!

Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I like this album.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 19 February 2004 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Kerrang gave it a good review.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 19 February 2004 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Acolytes to the flame, let not another moon reveal itself before you buttress your newfound zeal with a copy of SOUND OF THE BEAST. There's a brand new paperback edition filled with wonderful advice. Maxim and Terrorizer gave it a good review.

Here's a quick cheat sheet to further study with this Probot thing:

1. Centuries Of Sin ( W/Cronos) : Venom - Black Metal
2. Red War ( W/ Max Cavalera) : Sepultura - Arise
3. Shake Your Blood ( W/ Lemmy) : Motörhead - Overkill
4. Access Babylon ( W/ Mike Dean) C.O.C. - Animosity
5. Silent Spring ( W/ Kurt Brecht) : D.R.I. - Dealing With It
6. Ice Cold Man ( W/ Lee Dorrian) : Cathedral - Forest of Equilibrium / Napalm Death - Peel Sessions
7. The Emerald Law ( W/ Wino) : Saint Vitus - Born Too Late
8. Big Sky ( W/ Tom G. Warrior) : Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
9. Dictatorsaurus ( W/ Snake) : Voïvod - Dimension Hatross
10. My Tortured Soul ( W/ Eric Wagner) : Trouble - The Skull
11. Sweet Dreams ( W/ King Diamond) : Mercyful Fate - Melissa
12. (exclusive bonus hidden track) : Mr. Show DVD - "Jeepers Creepers, Semi-Star"

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 19 February 2004 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Aarrrrg. OK. I heard a few tunes. Not real impressed so far. They went to great lengths to sound like Sepultura for Max (though it sounds like a Chaos AD throwaway) and to sound like Motorhead for Lemmy; but they can't do a Dirty Rotten sound for Kurt Brecht (my personal favorite singer on this project)??

I do love the way they got that nasty "Animosity" sound on Mike Dean's voice. And thank fucking god Pepper Keenan didn't have anything to do with this.

And I'm still looking forward to hearing the one with Lee Dorian although I much prefer Barney as a Napalm Death singer.

I'm not going to even say anything about Voivod this time....

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

It should do well with the feral children demographic.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

And thank fucking god Pepper Keenan didn't have anything to do with this.

What's wrong with Pepper?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

He turned a once great hardcore band into a Seattle, North Carolina band. I'm not going to war on this one like I did with the Voivod singer. But I mean, you've really got to be able to step it up if you become a new singer for an already good band....

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Fair enough. I still quite like "Clean My Wounds", though.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I also quite like the track with Voi Vod's Snake, "Dictatosaurus".

This might be my favorite.

Not sure yet.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

"Help me jesus help me clean my wounds. He said he can't heeeeeal that kind." Too southern for me. I guess it always sorta made me mad. What business does he have coming in and changing a legendary band like that?? I mean, COC is Mike Dean, Woody Weatherman, and Reed Mullin. PERIOD. Playin' sister fuckin' hardcore in the barn...

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 19 February 2004 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Pepper rulz.

How come nobody's mentioned that the lyrics to the Kurt Brecht song are some of the worst lyrics written by anyone ever? I meaa, I love Dealing With It (and even parts of Crossover) and generally hold DRI in high regard (except that "Gun Control" song - yech) but the lyrics to this song are so unbelievably awful, I actually can't believe they made it onto the record.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 20 February 2004 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Reaganomics killing me, Reaganomics killing you, Reaganomics killing me, Reaganomics killing yooooou!!!
Reaganomics killing me, Reaganomics killing you, Reaganomics killing me, Reaganomics killing yooooou!!!
Reaganomics killing me, Reaganomics killing you, Reaganomics killing me, Reaganomics killing yooooou!!!
Reaganomics killing me, Reaganomics killing you, Reaganomics killing me, Reaganomics killing yooooou!!!

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 20 February 2004 01:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I never cared about lyrics. He was always one of the best hardcore metal singers though - voice-wise.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 20 February 2004 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Come to think of it - DRI never did have great lyrics did they??

I thought "Modern World" was brilliant lyrically just cause of the way they went with the title of the song. Simple but smart.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 20 February 2004 02:12 (twenty-two years ago)

DRI's lyrics got inexplicably worse as their career went on. Suddenly they were talking about how hard they 'thrash'

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 20 February 2004 03:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Fifth listen through, I'm still surprised by how good this Probot album is (and I was the one who started the anticipation thread for it back in December, you'll remember, so the pressure was on). My favorites are the ones with Cavalera (I gave up on Sepultura a long time ago but am curious again - how is Soulfly? Always assumed that they sucked), Tom G Warrior, and Lee Dorrian. The only duds are the one with Eric Wagner (though that riff is KILLER so it still goes on the tape I'm making for the car) and, inexplicably, the one with King Diamond (who's track I was anticipating most of all). The bonus track is sorta dud too but for a bonus track I guess it's fine.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 20 February 2004 04:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Soulfly mostly sounds like that annoying Ratamahatta song from Roots from what I've heard. Bleh. Its funny how they were great when they just wanted to be an American band. Then they saw an easy gimmick right there in front of them...

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 20 February 2004 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Happens to the best of 'em. It's probably why Ratos de Porao or whatever never got big Stateside.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 20 February 2004 08:08 (twenty-two years ago)

all that talk about COC upthread makes me want to start a "snake nation: C or D" thread.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 20 February 2004 08:15 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
Finally, an honest appraisal of this album!!:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0418/smith.php

chuck, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...
Ha, ha! This is a great thread to read after the "Drugs & Music" thread I just finished which centers around VOIVOD and Sonic Youth.

I think Jonny Badlees needs to hear Voivod on acid and tell us all if he still thinks they suck! God damn, I can't believe he thinks Slayer, Sepultura and Sacred Reich are better bands.

Sad. I would hate to be the brain behind those ears.

Triple Ho, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

and... onto the new answers board please.

Triple Ho, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 06:50 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

Just saw this album again, while looking for something else. What WAS he thinking? Sure, it was a good idea on paper, but... - or is it better than I think?

oh ok, here's that video again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T09hBGGpSjk

StanM, Monday, 19 November 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)


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