I Don't Very Well Know Why They Got No Further

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How good was Morrissey and Vini Reilly's collaboration?

Why did it terminate?

Could it ever recommence?

― the blissfox, Friday, 20 February 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Vini Reilly was hired by Stephen (sp?) Street to play guitar on music that had already written for "Viva Hate". If I remember, Mr. Reilly wasn't too crazy about the existing tracks he had to work with, and insisted that he be allowed to re-write / re-record some of them. From what I'd read, it didn't seem like a very close or promising collaboration. I've never heard it, but a friend has a copy and I'd like to.

― jazz odysseus, Friday, 20 February 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

i love disappointed and sister i'm a poet and every day is like sunday tons! he didn't play on yes, i am blind though did he? that might be my favorite morrissey song. he should have played on it if he didn't.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 20 February 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never hear this:

A 7" single (right photo) of "I Know Very Well How I Got My Note Wrong" by Morrissey
and Vini Reilly came with the first 1000 copies of Durutti Column's LP titled "Vini
Reilly", released in March 1989. The cd editions of the album came with a 3"
cd-single (left photo). The track is actually "I Know Very Well How I Got My Name"
but in the end, Vini misses some notes and he and Morrissey break into laughter.
(UK Factory, 7": FAC244+, CD3: FACD244+).

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 20 February 2004 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Read the description and you'll fell like you have.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 20 February 2004 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, and i love the stuff on viva hate. i just love vini though. i could listen to him do anything. i can certainly understand why he stopped working with moz though.

mark-but i want to hear them braking up into laughter.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 20 February 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

er. breaking up into laughter.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 20 February 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Morrissey invited him to co-write a follow-up, so Reilly
suggested they collaborate on something experimental, in the spirit of Patti Smith's Radio Ethiopia. "He hasn't spoken to me since,"
he shrugs.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 20 February 2004 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

It is a toss-up, I think, whether 'Got My Name' or 'Got My Note Wrong' is the better track. The former is lush, rich, watery; the latter reverby, angular, dramatic, artful. Both are marvellous, I suppose.

I am still not sure I understand why the collaboration went no further.

― the bellefox, Friday, 20 February 2004 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

You also worked with Morrissey on his first album, VIVA HATE…

He was great! I actually wasn’t that much of a Smiths fan until I heard HOW SOON IS NOW?… Morrissey was incredibly kind
to me, my whole experience of working with him was one of great joy - he was a very funny guy. I had a fantastic time on
that album - it was a special, funny, crazy time. But when he asked me to do a second solo album, I declined - I just didn’t
want to go over old ground. I sent him a copy of Patti Smith’s RADIO ETHIOPIA with a note saying it was an example of
something radical he could do for the second album, but he didn’t go for it. In fact, he’s never spoken to me since!

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 20 February 2004 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, hell - I was wrong!

― jazz odysseus, Friday, 20 February 2004 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Having read that para from Reilly, I *still* don't understand why it went no further?

What is pop without "going over old ground"?

What have either of them done in the last 16 years to match their work together?

Radical, Schmadical. At least M. apparently did not take the option of following that busted clown Smith.

― the bellefox, Friday, 20 February 2004 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

? = .

But only the first time.

― the blissfox, Friday, 20 February 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

It is a shame they never worked together again.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 20 February 2004 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

It really would have been nice. For all that Street cowrote and arranged the song, Reilly's guitar on "Everyday Is Like Sunday" is so what absolutely makes it, descending glam chords in the chorus and all. It really is Morrissey's art album without trying, where Kill Uncle was the trying too hard art album (which I still love).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 February 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

So you're that guy.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 20 February 2004 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone had to. Otherwise it would shiver alone in the cold.

(The reverb on his voice throughout I can't figure but the second half of the album is really quite something.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 February 2004 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Morrissey had food fights in the studio

Morrissey is a kind and funny person who indulged in food fights in the
recording studio, says a former collaborator.

Durutti Column guitarist Vini Reilly says he and Morrissey also played
charades while recording Viva Hate.

The Durutti Column have just released a new album, Rebellion.

Reilly told Alternative Press magazine: "We had a very happy friendship
which was based on Morrissey's gift for mockery.

"Morrissey made fun of me in a very affectionate way."

But despite describing working with Morrissey as wonderful, Reilly admits
indifference to recording with the singer again.

"I'm not too good, keen or interested in collaborations with other musicians.

"I've got too many ideas I want to do myself," he said.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 20 February 2004 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

vini and morrissey never played together in the nosebleeds, right?

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 20 February 2004 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

What have either of them done in the last 16 years to match their work together?

Well, I think this thread has the answer Is it wrong to love The Smiths but still think Vauxhall and I is Morrissey's best work?.

Though I think that Everyday is like Sunday > Vauxhall and I > Viva Hate

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 20 February 2004 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think I see how that thread can for me have The Answer, when I reckon Viva Hate M's best solo work.

The weak spot of my rhetorical question is that Reilly may well have worked wonders since then without my knowing.

― the blissfox, Friday, 20 February 2004 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

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