some guitar music recommendations please

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pretend i know nothing about this "guitar" device

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

To hear a guitar being played properly, please listen to any recordings by the group Orthrelm.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

django hulkington

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

chuck berry - maybelline
the latest ry cooder / manuel galban album

phil turnbull (philT), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Wes Montgomery with Wynton Kelly Trio - Smokin' at the Half Note
Jimi Hendrix - Woodstock
Julian Bream - Nocturnal
Keith Rowe - A Dimension of Perfectly Ordinary Reality
Charlie Patton - Founder of the Delta Blues
Paul Butterfield Blues Band - East/West Live
Fred Frith - Guitar Solos
Magic Sam - The Essential Magic Sam: The Cobra and Chief Recordings 1957-1961
King Sunny Ade - Best of the Classic Years
Blue Cheer - Vincebus Eruptum
Buddy Emmons - Steel Guitar Jazz
Masayuki Takayanagi & New Direction Unit - Free Form Suite
Sylvester Weaver - Vol 1: 1923-1927

Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

(you know, the more i think about it the more i realize i DONT know much about this guitar device)

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Sonny Sharrock

ddb, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

or Skullflower

ddb, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

you can unlearn guitar

guitar wolf

man with guitar

Guitar Slim, Jr.

brock (brock), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Sandy Bull
Robbie Basho

Jeckyl Ha Ha, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

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Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

robert nighthawk live on maxwell street
funnel of love wanda jackson
i'm branded/switchblade link wray
the slummer the slum 5 royales

rumple., Wednesday, 25 February 2004 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Charlie Christian - The Genius of the Electric Guitar, esp. 'I Found a New Baby'

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

zappa "guitar" & "shut up 'n play your guitar"

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

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Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Roland Dyens, he's the (relatively) young revolutionary of classical guitar from what I understand. A friend made me a comp of his work that's just gorgeous.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

john martyn - inside out

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

"Friends, this is Tex Carman, the Dixie Cowboy, going in battle right on the old guitar, going to imitate the drum, fife, cannons, and bugle."

High Cholesterol (bastarda), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, Smokin' at the Half Note is a drop dead classic.
You must, however start with Segovia for your classical roots, and somebody along the lines of Manitas De Plata for your flamenco.

Here's some specifics to consider.
Charlie Christian -- Solo Flight
Kenny Burrell -- Midnight Blue
Bill Evans/Jim Hall -- Undercurrent
Elvis Costello/Bill Frisell -- Deep Dead Blue

Wait, this box is a great place to start, and, it's CHEAP!

http://www.propermusic.com/images/PROPERBOX9.jpg

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

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oops (Oops), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Slint - Spiderland

Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

joan armatrading for her acoustic work on this one.

william (william), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

jess- annette krebs last solo record (can't remember the name right now): its great bcz she almost doesn't play it (I said 'almost', which ties in with your last comment on this thread).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Royal Trux, "Sweet Sixteen"; Neil Michael Hagerty, "The Howling Hex" - or, better by far, LIVE!

morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Dazzling Stranger - Bert Jansch
Marqee Moon - Television
Inner Mounting Flame - Mahavishnu Orchestra
Red - King Crimson
The Yellow Princess - John Fahey
Paranoid - Black Sabbath
Highway to Hell - AC/DC
Younger Than Yesterday - The Byrds
Blank Generation - Richard Hell & the Voidoids

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I do think the thread was asking for newer recommendations (or really unknown older ones) (ok my one is a couple of years old but still, that's a really good I'm not playing type set).

''Paul Butterfield Blues Band - East/West Live''

broheems- got another one by them and its straight-ish blues (from the one listen I gave it): can you tell me abt this one, how diff is it? etc.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I was just listening to this this morning.

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Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

John McLaughlin - Shakti
Wipers- Youth of America
Wes Montgomery - Full House
Jesus Lizard- Show

earlnash, Thursday, 26 February 2004 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)

garlo - vent de guitares

(Jon L), Thursday, 26 February 2004 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Joni Mitchell, Hejira
Richard Thompson, The Old Kit Bag

derrick (derrick), Thursday, 26 February 2004 04:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Duane Allman
B.B. King
Les Paul
Eddie Van Halen
Andres Segovia
Chet Atkins
Bonnie Raitt
David Gilmour
Prince


jim wentworth (wench), Thursday, 26 February 2004 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

"Bigmouth Strikes Again"

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 26 February 2004 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

try US MAPLE for rock music

russignon, Thursday, 26 February 2004 05:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess, these are some favourites. If you want me to burn some hard-to-find ones, drop me an email.

Bach – Prelude from Suite in G maj for Solo Violoncello
Sor – Marche Funebre

These two are pieces I really enjoy playing. Fernando Sor is a late-classical-period French composer who's a deity in the guitar repertoire but unknown outside of it. "Marche Funebre" is of course, a slow sad but beautiful piece with intense emotion to it. The Bach prelude is one that everyone plays. It's really, I dunno, bright-pretty. I can't really recommend good recordings of these as I've mostly just experienced them as a player.

Rodrigo – Concierto di Aranjuez
Giuliani – Concerto for Guitar and String Orchestra

Both of these are available on a good disc by John Williams. I believe you've mentioned elsewhere that you're familiar with and like the Rodrigo. Also check out Julian Bream's performance of his "Tres Piezas Espanolas" (on Spanish Guitar Recital, which is all good). I don't think you could go too wrong with Bream's recordings of anything.

Bream's Guitar Recital: Sor/Turina/Falla/Villa-Lobos/Torroba is a favourite disc of mine.

William Beauvais – Traces

I don't know how easy to find this is outside of Canada. Excellent performances of contemporary Canadian guitar compositions. Nothing inaccessibly avant-garde but all original and creative and very pretty pieces, particularly Shawn Bell's "Currents" (normally an electronic composer), which almost turns the guitar into a percussion instrument.

Ginastera – Sonata for Guitar

This is an amazing piece that's incredibly difficult and physically demanding to play, with some slow resonant or lyrical parts and some aggressively rhythmic and percussive parts. Timo Korhonen's performance is good.

Bill Frisell – The Intercontinentals, Ghost Town, Blues Dream

These are my favourite albums at the moment. He fuses jazz, blues, country, folk, and pop/rock elements, using massed layers of guitars, sometimes strummed or picked, sometimes making washes of ambient sound, sometimes playing feedback, sometimes electronically treated, often at the same time. It usually tends to still end up being soft, delicate, and emotional. The Intercontinentals features his work with Brazilian, Malian, and Greek musicians, combining these traditional musics with American folk musics. It's the most upbeat of the three and has some beautiful singing on a couple tracks. Ghost Town (which is playing now) is all layers of Frisell, the most lonely-sounding of them. It's probably the most folky. Blues Dream is more blues and jazz-influenced, with horns.

Sonny Sharrock – Highlife

Features Sharrock soloing over, well, highlife-like accompaniment. Has a laid-back, grooving, loungey kind of feel to it. The guitar melodies usually build into a wash of noise and then pull themselves back out. Features a synthy Kate Bush interpretation.

Last Exit – Koln

Sharrock playing in a more violent noise-rock/funk context, with Peter Brotzmann and Bill Laswell.

Fred Frith Guitar Quartet – Ayaya Moses

Compositions for four guitars who interact with each other in astonishing ways.

Oren Ambarchi – Suspension

Guitar becomes ambient drone.

Vincent Courtois/Marc Ducret/Dominique Pifarely – The Fitting Room

Ducret is the guitarist. The other two play cello and violin. Winding, tortured improvisations.

Rez Abbasi Trio – Snake Charmer

Fluidly virtuosic without being wanky. Fusion that incorporates sitar-guitar, Hindustani singing, and tablas. Emphasis on complex time changes.

Steven Mackey/Paul Lansky – “Dancetracks”

Just a really great piece of fusion soloing with electronic background. Glossy synth-drenched virtuosity at its best.

Leopold Brouwer – Tarantos, Cuban Landscape with Rain

"Tarantos" is a solo piece where the player has some freedom as to how to assemble the passages. A lot of long haunting chords and bursts of intensity. "Cuban Landscape" is for guitar ensemble, where the players create the effect of a rainstorm's development, eventually knocking the guitar bodies and slapping strings.

Derek Bailey – Ballads

Fiuczynski’s Headless Torsos – Amandala

Avant-fusion with some post-Hendrix wailing and some spaced-out feedback. A lot of use of effects pedals. Some classic riffs and hooks, some awesome noise, some Latin percussion. A really thick, heavy rocking sound.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 26 February 2004 05:56 (twenty-two years ago)

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the most joyous guitar sounds i have ever heard are here, especially the many joshua sithole and aaron mbambo tracks.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 26 February 2004 06:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I should explain that Mackey/Lansky is much less conservative than that description makes it sound. Mackey actually uses a lot of non-traditional harmony, with a lot of different sounds and and stereo delay effects as well as some noise, while the Lansky backdrop consists of stereo-panned click beats and some more metallic sounds with microtonal synth drones at points.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 26 February 2004 06:57 (twenty-two years ago)

It might actually be what Josh was looking for here.

(Is Josh still around at all?)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 26 February 2004 07:01 (twenty-two years ago)

lansky mp3's, including 'dancetracks'

nothing to do with guitars, but anyone curious about where the sampled chord sequence in Radiohead's 'Idioteque' came from, go to 0:44 in the mp3 of his 1973 piece 'Mild und Leise'.

(Jon L), Thursday, 26 February 2004 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Sor's work is beautiful. More classical recommendations: Ferdinando Carulli, Heitor Villa-Lobos, Leo Brouwer's El Decamerón Negro, Rodrigo's Madrigal and Andaluz, Toru Takemitsu's All In Twilight.

Jeremy (Jeremy), Thursday, 26 February 2004 07:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Villa-Lobos' "5 Guitar Preludes" on Bream's Guitar Recital is really nice.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 26 February 2004 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know that Takemitsu. Perhaps I should look into it.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 26 February 2004 07:25 (twenty-two years ago)

All In Twilight is four short pieces for solo guitar inspired by a Paul Klee painting. Actually, I believe it was composed for Bream, who recorded it on his album Nocturnal (mentioned upthread). It is well worth tracking down if you like Takemitsu's work.

Jeremy (Jeremy), Thursday, 26 February 2004 07:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Jordan, I'm currently learning some Roland Dyens pieces, not too technically demanding, but they sound fantastic.

'Tango En Skai' is by far my favourite classical guitar piece to perform. I often loop it for ages, getting carried away, boring people...except old people.

TomB (TomB), Thursday, 26 February 2004 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

thank you all, but especially sundar. i started the thread in half-jest, but i will try to seek a lot of these out as they do go against the general grain of my listening.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 February 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Cool, Tom. I love his A Felicidade, and my guitarist friend and I briefly had hopes of working out Unconscious in Brazil (I think he performed this?) for trio, never got around to it.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 February 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

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Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Jordan,

Are you familar with any of Jorge Cardoso's work? He's probably my favourite classical guitar composer, although I think I'm just starting to fully appreciate Bach's crazy counterpoint-ey (contrapuntal!) stuff.

Now I wish I hadn't cut my nails off!

TomB (TomB), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey Sundar, nice list. I'm gonna seek out some of those things. You should totally pick up that Bream Nocturnal disc; the Takemitsu piece is great (as is all the rest of it, really). Do you really like the Sharrock High Life disc all that much? I've seen you mention it on ILX a few times now. I dunno, it's weird; I'm sort of a Sharrock fanatic, but even I had to part with that one last summer, when I performed a small CD purge. I could never really warm to it; I think I was pretty horrified at the glossy keyboard textures and drum sound when I bought it some years ago. I gave it one last spin before placing it in the sell pile, and it just didn't click with me. I hesitated for a bit, as I do like the fact that he revisits that "Upper Egypt" motif from his days with Pharoah, but in the end I just couldn't foresee myself playing it much.

Julio, this is the disc I was referring to. It's an archival release that was issued sometime in the 90s. I don't know which record you acquired, but yeah, pretty much all their stuff is straight-ahead blues (and not at all bad, mind you) aside from the title cut to their second lp. But what a cut it is! Early fusion of eastern / western musical motifs in a small guitar-band context, with beautiful modal solos traded between Elvin Bishop and Michael Bloomfield. And it's on this disc in three looooong live versions. The sound quality is a bit poor, but it's a great peek at the hatching of 60s higher-mind guitar exploration. I mean, the Dead were still pretty much a greaser band at this point!

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 26 February 2004 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)

must hear it. thanks.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 27 February 2004 09:06 (twenty-two years ago)

No Tom, is his stuff pretty modern? I really don't know much at all about classical guitar, just what I hear from a friend who I'm in a couple bands with who is a classical guitarist in his other life.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 February 2004 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you really like the Sharrock High Life disc all that much? . . . I think I was pretty horrified at the glossy keyboard textures and drum sound when I bought it some years ago.

It's like Bon Jovi making a noise album. I love it!

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 27 February 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)


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