What heavy metal songs use "straight" disco beats?

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Judas Priest - "Killing Machine"
Mercyful Fate - "Curse of the Pharoahs"
Kiss - "I Was Made for Lovin' You"
Motley Crue - "Shoulda Seen Her Dance"
Judas Priest - "Metal Gods"

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Mercyful Fate - "Devil Eyes"

― Roger in Mokum (Roger T), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"You've Got Another Thing Comin'" by Judas Priest

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

"Mean Street," Van Halen
Some song by Puny Human (though the drummer swears it's not disco, it's Grand Funk, like there's a difference)

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

See the second edition of *Stairway to Hell,* p. 216, "25 Reasons Disco-Metal Fusion was inevitable in the '90s." There's a long, long list. Which got even longer in the appendix of the original version of the book, if you can find it.

― chuck, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Lots of Van Halen could fit into this category - "Dance The Night Away" and "Jump," for starters.

― mike a, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"Devil Eyes" is the perfect example -- a Satanic paen from the actual disco era, hinting towards black metal but based on a FULL-ON disco beat.

Can somebody run Twisted Sister's "You Can't Stop Rock and Roll" through this filter? I mean, that would really cut the cow, huh?

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

korn - got the life

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a nargaroth song on "rasluka part ii" that uses the same sort of modified disco beat as the korn song. sort of disco by way of p/i/l or something.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't want to be the genre police, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to call Van Halen heavy metal.

― Scott, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott, if calling Van Halen metal bugs you, you REALLY need to buy my book. (And I hope people are shooting film when your head explodes.)

― chuck, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

haha

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Metal or not, "Jump" doesn't have a disco beat at all.

― Elliot (Elliot), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

When "Hot For Teacher" came out it was seriously the fastest, most intense thing my young ears had ever heard. It kind of scared me.

― Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I always liked Chuck's description of it as Kenny Aronoff plays Motorhead.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

chuck, I figured you would pounce on that; I obviously don't share your expansive views, but I should just leave it for another thread, (all of which have been done to death already (what is metal, what is the point of "genre," etc.))

― Scott, Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd love to hear those tracks mixed together DJ stylee.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

what about metal disco? Curious what Chuck would think qualifies...I can think of a few disco tracks that use blistering guitar, though some may just be more of a heavy funk, I'm thinking of say Cerrone's Rocket in the Pocket. But also when I hear the Gay S+M anthem Walk the Night by the Skat Brothers (or the Bent Boys more electro version) I think it's pretty hard rock...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

There were TONS of heavy metal/disco songs in England in the mid 70s.. and practically sowed some of the seeds for future metal and future disco... except at the time, it was called "glam rock".

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Amii Stewart's "Knock On Wood" cover borrowed just as much from Gary Glitter as the first Killing Joke album, for example.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Kiss- "I Was Made for Loving You"

― earlnash, Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I see what you mean about glam rock, but I'm asking more about stuff produced as disco, ranging from dark and aggressive disco even to stuff using rock guitar in a kitschy manner.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

So, you mean KMFDM and their ilk?

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Chuck does list the Cerrone track in his book.

― Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Another one to check out -- Iron Maiden "Run to the Hills"

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

No. I'm not gonna get into that argument again, where everyone tells me that disco implies all types of dance music. Despite that lengthy debate, to me Disco is still a distinct genre/style that existed from the mid 70s to the early 80s, and that's what I'm looking for. If I we were gonna go as far as KMFDM and such, I'd have to mention Renegade Soundwave's Biting My Nails, if only because it samples the original Knock on Wood to great effect. More recently, there was a Cassius track, that had killer aggressive guitar work, the one that goes "feel like I wanna be, inside of you, when the sun goes down" which rocks...but still curious about 70s disco along the lines of that Cerrone song...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan, Boney M's cover of "Painterman", or "Rasputin" would be right up your alley then. (Granted, that album does borrow a lot from glam rock too. Then again, a lot of disco does.)

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

speaking of glam/disco, my friend Andy Galkin always plays out this disco megamix of Sweet that's pretty amazing.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

although, those songs are only "metal" as far as the occasional heavy guitar riffage goes. I don't think anyone would listen and think "metal".

Dan, is that the 1984 Sweet megamix released on Anagram records with "Fox On The Run (single version)" as a B-side?

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know, I'll ask. I just remember a megamix that had Fox On the Run within it and it being really processed, like all phased or flanged out and dancier...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

from this page, the "Its Its The Sweetest Mix/Fox On The Run" 12" re-release is what I was referring to.

Because there have been other Sweet megamixes, one of which was, I think, released on (shudder) Cleopatra, and featured modern remixes of "Fox On The Run" and other songs too.

(I have the former 12", but it would take a while for me to dig it out and listen.. i really need to reorg my vinyl)

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

all I remember is it was silver(or gray.) It was definately vintage, definately not Cleopatra. God, that label, I don't get, how they can make Kraftwerk records look ugly.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm having a hard time digesting the notion that Van Halen are not a "metal" band (as suggested by Scott and summarily buffered by inexplicabley zealous Kix fanatic and otherwise-good-guy Chuck Eddy). I mean, no, Van Halen are not metal in the lipstick'n'leather, denim'n'demons vein, and their chops are certainly more versatile than those found in your average metal band, but their sound is deeply rooted in heaviosity of a most burly and beefy variety. A skiffle band they're not.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Sounds and looks like the Anagram 12" to me, Dan. I just remember that megamix sounding like a slightly lackluster "Sweet on 45" basically. I was more excited to have a full 12" 45 rpm single version of "Fox On The Run" out of that, personally.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 11 March 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Cleopatra is the only record label that releases otherwise occasional good issues of albums with bonus tracks, etc. but still dares you to buy it after their cover art treatment.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 11 March 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"Woo! The reissue of the Psychic TV debut album!"

*checks cover*

"OH GOD NOOOOOOOOO..."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 March 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know if it's appropriate but i would just like to mention the song "new girl now" by honeymoon suite. favorite song when i was 8. and one of them now at 28. not that it's a "walk the night" or anything...

― duke chains, Thursday, 11 March 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

A skiffle band they're not.

Hmm, interesting choice. "Ice Cream Man," "Happy Trails," responsibility for "Ice Cream Man"...

Anyway, music mole, if we can summon 76 mins of real denim & leather heavy metal with actual factual disco beats, I'm good to go with that megamix. Scars on 45.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 11 March 2004 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

don't know that one, dan, what makes you bring it up?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

it would have sounded good at the hole; i'm always looking for an opportunity to bring it up. because it bridges a twenty year gap in my life or something. there's a thread idea

― duke electric, Thursday, 11 March 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, if ever a thread was begging for Chuck-Edification... :)

Killing Joke's "Bloodsport" sounds EXACTLY like something I would call metal disco - altho a lot of people would consider it neither. Same goes for several ZZ Top Eliminator cuts and Hot Chocolate's stupendous "Every 1's A Winner."

BTW, Duke: You're absolutely right - "New Girl Now" is excellent! One of dozens of unforgettable hits (and unforgettable non-hits) from 1984, the greatest year for rock 'n roll radio in my lifetime. Or at least since I was a toddler. (Great year for "alternative" rock too, thanks to labels like SST and Touch & Go.)

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 11 March 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Black Sabbath's "Supernaut" is like protodisco doom metal, kinda (esp THAT DRUM BREAK!!!1`~)

― Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 March 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

And if the opening hi-hat beat isn't DIRECTLY inspired by "Theme From Shaft" then I'll... well, I'll just ask for more proof that it isn't, and then I'll doubt that proof.

― Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 March 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, there's a reason 1000 Homo DJs made it so easy to turn into a Wax Trax industrial classic.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 March 2004 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)

living after midnight mixes perfectly with prince's uptown

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Thursday, 11 March 2004 07:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Judas Priest "Bloodstone"
Motley Crue "Too Young To Fall in Love"

― dave q, Thursday, 11 March 2004 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Whose Fist is This Anyway? by Prong.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear a disco beat in "Crush Em" by Megadeth.

― Rocco, Thursday, 11 March 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

okay, here's the "disco metal already?" list from stairway to hell; this is only PART of the long disco-metal appendix, which also talks about how ace frehley's "ny groove" = bohannon's "disco stomp" and sabbath's "children of the grave" = blondie's "call me" among other things; can't find right now additional lists by michael freedberg (who did include the skatt bros' great 'walk the night,' plus kano's 'it's a war', elton motello's 'jet boy jet girl', etc) and rob sheffield (billy ocean's 'loverboy', loverboy's 'turn me loose,' funkadelic's 'loose booty' james brown's 'give it up or turn it a loose,' etc) from the book's first edition. it also doesn't include music (most notably Babe Ruth among old stuff and maybe the Prodigy among recent stuff) that I discovered later. also doesn't include Guns N Roses, though in my subsequent book I spend a lot time explaining why APPETITE = Donna Summer's BAD GIRLS. all THAT said, here's the list: led zep 'fool in the rain,' teena marie EMERALD CITY and 'lovergirl,' billy squier 'the stroke,' stacey q 'hard machine' and 'insecurity,' madonna 'burning up,' kix 'sex,' stacy lattisaw 'i'm down for you,' trust 'palace,' tantra 'top shot,' cerrone 'rocket in the pocket,' cheap trick 'you're all talk,' bombers 'don't stop the music,' cybotron 'eden,' jimmy castor bunch PHASE TWO and 'the return of leroy,' precious metal 'mr. big stuff,' apollo smile 'thunder box,' andrew ridgely 'mexico,' dan reed network 'ritual (dido slam),' beastie boys 'a year and a day,' hot chocolate 'disco queen' and 'heaven is in the back seat of my cadillac,' david bowie 'stay,' les rita mitsouko 'someone to love,' pat benatar 'invincible,' zz top legs,' and a couple songs on SHEILA AND B. DEVOTION and Foxy's PARTY BOYS. (Then I mention a few Latin rhythm metal guitar things" 'Sympathy of the Devil,' Deep Purple "Hush,' Spencer Davis Group 'i'm a man,' nilsson 'jump in to the fire.' Then i mention a few disco-metal van halen songs: 'dance the night away,' 'dancing in the streets,' push comes to the shove,' and the 'hot for teacher' VIDEO -- though not the actual *song* apparently, hmmm..)

― chuck, Thursday, 11 March 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

But what's really weird is that, up to now, I don't think anybody (including me) has mentioned AC/DC, whose Bon-era albums are LOADED with songs where the drums sound like disco drums.

― chuck, Thursday, 11 March 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

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"It Must Have Been Years" reminds me a little of Rick James' "Superfreak" for some reason, or vice versa. It's amazing how well Numan segues so easily into late 70s/early 80s funk without really ever aiming for that aesthetic directly.

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 12 March 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

and "bombers" rules

― duke encephalitis, Friday, 12 March 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, forgot to mention "The Plan" comp (which contains a lot of sluggish demos but also contains some essential outtakes and single tracks including "Bombers"..yay.) Very worthwhile.

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 12 March 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

early-numan guitars always sounded more metal than punk, to my ears at least. not iommi or brian may, more like jimmy page would've sounded like had mr. page not had ANY blues influence. but i'm told that my view is shared by me and no-one else.

"I Was Made for Lovin' You" kinda like roolz this thread, fwiw. it's also one of the dumbest songs ever recorded, which of course makes it one of the greatest songs ever recorded.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 14 March 2004 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I read an interview in which Gary Numan said to the the interviewer, referring to himself and his backing band Dramatis, "We were always the heavy metal of futurism".

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 14 March 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

but i'm told that my view is shared by me and no-one else.

Correct. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 March 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

"Sucking My Love" by Diamond Head is another 2Step metal track. So the disco/club-metal list grows slowly, even on this healthy and super fun thread.

About heavy metal futurism: Here is a Numan/Halford comparison thread, complete with picktures.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 14 March 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't want to be the genre police, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to call Van Halen heavy metal.

If Van fucking Halen isn't heavy metal, then there's no such thing as heavy metal.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 14 March 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

Listen up... If you think Van Halen aren't metal, it's most likely because you're just a kid (compared to me, at least). I'm 40 years old and have been playing music for the last 30 years (professionally for 25). The earliest metal bands created and defined the sound - Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, etc. When VH came out their sound was more produced (maybe), but they were definitely metal. Heavy doesn't just mean more gain, although Eddy VH certainly had a lot of that. As in most other things there is an evolution - though I might say devolution - and when bands like Metallica came out they weren't creating anything new, merely modifying the existing style. Same goes for every metal band since.

― Marc Cote, Monday, 5 April 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Marc - you are my new hero, thanks to your defense of the truth. If you wanna get REAL pissed off, read the goofy things that people say on the thread below, okay? And then post annoyed answers, like I did!

Heavy Metal: What Is The Definitive Description?

― chuck, Monday, 5 April 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Your post also has some similarities to what I say here:

Taking Sides: Iron Maiden or Judas Priest . . .

― chuck, Monday, 5 April 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't see what truth Mark was describing or conveying, other than that he agrees with you, Chuck. He just re-asserted that Van Halen is metal. Obviously there are people that use different criteria to describe the genre--as evidenced by the other threads. Marc described no criteria at all.

You think metal = loud guitars. Others disagree. If we can't agree on the definition of the genre, I fail to see how someone could be speaking the "truth" about what fits into a genre and what doesn't.

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Monday, 5 April 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

But chuck wrote a whole BOOK about it! That makes him an EXPERT!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 5 April 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

It is an entertaining read though, I'll give him that.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 5 April 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Agrees with me = Truth. (Not THAT hard to comprehend, I'd think.)

― chuck, Monday, 5 April 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I guess I always thought Chuck's definition of metal in his book was more as a way of poking fun at the very idea of genres, which I can respect. Apparently I was wrong, though, as he vehemently defends his definition on all these threads.

It seems to me like the idea of a "genre" is only useful inasmuch as people have a general agreement about what fits and doesn't (with obvious room for disagreement on specific cases), and even then, is only useful as a sort of orientation point. The fact that a band is or isn't heavy metal is only very peripherally important as one way to describe a certain sound.

If heavy metal = loud guitars, why not just say "It has loud guitars," as a way of describing it?

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Monday, 5 April 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

How do you know I'm not STILL poking fun at genres, Scott? (Inasmuch as I ever was in the first place.) (Which I wasn't.) (Except sort of.) (Really, I was just PLAYING with the idea of genres. Which are totally fun things to play with.)(I mean yeah, sure, all definitions of genres are OPINIONS. Uh, no shit Sherlock. That's part of the POINT. If you're really confused about that, read my SECOND book. Still, my definition is the best, because it's the only one I've seen that makes any sense, because it's the only one that encompasses EVERYTHING that people call heavy metal -- in other words, it's INCLUSIVE, not EXCLUSIVE!) (Also, duh, I just think it's funny when people think there's a "defnitive" defintion out there to be had.)

― chuck, Monday, 5 April 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

And what genre names DO people always agree on, for crissakes? That'd be no fun at *all*, wouldn't it? And what albums or bands in Stairway to Hell (or any of my other writing) (or, hell, probably any of just about ANYBODY'S other writing) are "only" described as heavy metal? Right, that particular genre name (like any genre name) is simply one descriptive variable, out of many. So? Who *doesn't* use it that way? What was the last review you read anywhere that just said "This is a heavy metal album," and left it at that?

― chuck, Monday, 5 April 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Chuck, you just blew my mind.

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Monday, 5 April 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

No, but seriously, I think we basically agree on what the concept of genre is and isn't useful for, but we just have different approaches to the implications of that truth. I guess when I hear someone use the term "heavy metal" (besides the people on these threads), I know they are referring to a certain set of assumptions, musical styles, fashion choices, etc, the same way I understand terms like "indie" or "country" or "hip hop." And so I just use and understand those labels in that context, because it seems like the easiest way to communicate about such things. I really only think its useful as an orientation point if I have never heard the music before.

Whereas you, by trade (and I'm guessing disposition), are more apt to try and fuck with people's heads about what that means, and try to make your own definition as a way of both 1. showing people that their narrow idea of "heavy metal" is wacky, and 2. get at some broader "truth" about what it might mean.

Maybe my way is lazier, but it seems like an attempt to really nail down (or to broadly expand) a genre definition is not going to add much to the general discourse about music (and I realize I am being a hypocrite, since I tried to exclude Van Halen from the metal club). Though, sure, I understand you enjoy debating this particular point.

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

And I also think that how I expanded metal's definition (assuming I did)(which I didn't, since I was using a definition which had been around for years) added quite a bit to, uh, discourse about music. How *didn't* it, exactly? (Hell, you might not believe this, but people STILL have arguments about what I said in that book! Honest!)

People use "hip hop" and "indie" and "country" to mean all different things, too, Scott. You're deluding yourself if you think everybody means the same thing by those words; the definitions depend entirely on who you ask. Those are all what Frank Kogan called superwords (assuming I understand his use of the term, anyway). They start fights. Which is GOOD. (And besides, millions of people out there DO believe Van Halen is heavy metal. Are they "stretching the definiton," too? Are are they just not telling the "truth," Scott?)

― chuck, Monday, 5 April 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't say that everyone meant exactly the same thing when they say "hip hop" or "indie" or anything else, but I don't think it's delusional at all to say that people have some general understanding of what these concepts mean. I think making the definition of a genre as inclusive as your definition of heavy metal is essentially just to explode the idea of genre, which is great, but then I guess let's just stop using the term. I guess the idea of genre is only useful to me in that more limited and traditional sense. If heavy metal means what you say it means, I would just think we should stop using the term altogether. Which, come to think of it, I guess I have. I am not sure when I last used the term outside this thread.

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

And, Chuck, I do not mean to question the validity of writing a book about it, or talking about it, as I am obviously talking about it here.

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I like (and tend to use quite often, seemingly--just used it this morning!) Meltzer's term "per se." Like, I don't know if you can say that Teena Marie's "Lovergirl" is heavy metal per se even though it might be kind of heavy metal.

― Tim Ellison, Monday, 5 April 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

back to the disco thing -- Electic Six counts as metal, yes?

― chris herrington (chris herrington), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"Twilight Zone" Golden Earring

― Ian Grey (Ian_G), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

Err--probably half of the awesome and excellent RAMMS+EIN qualifies as dance metal. hence every single getting multiple ace remixe treatment.

― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

This is my favorite thread right now.

― nancyboy (nancyboy), Sunday, 18 June 2006 11:50 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

judas priest are the kings of this

― chaki, Sunday, 9 March 2008 07:05 (seventeen years ago)

I think now that it's 2008, we should decide that Judas Priest aren't metal anymore either.

― Nate Carson, Sunday, 9 March 2008 11:42 (seventeen years ago)

SEIZE HIM!

― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 9 March 2008 12:36 (seventeen years ago)

Haha. I think the obvious endpoint of Scott's argument above is "Since everyone KNOWS what heavy metal is already, in a general sense anyway, it's perfectly OK to say HM is whatever you want -- Killing Joke, Teena Marie, VH, etc. -- and fuck with the genre definition (or 'definition')."

np: "Beautiful Girls"

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:48 (seventeen years ago)

So he agrees with Chuck, in other words.

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:49 (seventeen years ago)

there will never be a time in which Judas Priest aren't metal

― latebloomer, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:54 (seventeen years ago)

I think now that it's 2008, we should decide that Judas Priest aren't metal anymore either.

-- Nate Carson, Sunday, March 9, 2008 4:42 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark Link

no wonder your band is terrible!

― chaki, Monday, 10 March 2008 05:22 (seventeen years ago)

there will never be a time in which Judas Priest aren't metal

This is gospel.

― Alex in NYC, Monday, 10 March 2008 12:01 (seventeen years ago)

no mention of Pink Floyd's The Wall? I don' think "ABITWP2" would necessarily count as disco-metal (not metal enough) but it seems tha "Run Like Hell" would fit right in...

and while we're at it, why does the opening to Robin Trower's "Too Rolling Stoned" always remind me of Gang of Four's "At Home He's a Tourist"?

― Drugs A. Money, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

nate i was jk i never heard your band but im guessing you guys could use some "straight" disco beats!

― chaki, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:37 (seventeen years ago)

Satyricon - "K.I.N.G." and "The Pentagram Burns" from Now, Diabolical

(Close enough if it's dark in the room, anyway -- the interesting twist is playing double-bass rolls instead of trad disco high-hat rolls, though they use those, too.)

At this rate, our c90 should be complete within the next six years.

― Ian Christe, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:15 (seventeen years ago)

why does the opening to Robin Trower's "Too Rolling Stoned" always remind me of Gang of Four

Maybe the same reason the opening to Legs Diamond's "It Take More Soul (To Rock & Roll)" reminds me of the Contortions!

― xhuxk, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:22 (seventeen years ago)

What about the beginning of Judas Priest's "Love Bites" and Michael Jackson's "Beat It"?

There was a ex-Gerry Rafferty sideman named Hooter Wool-Sanderson who made a niche for himself writing song intros for big record companies between 1977-1985. Hundreds of hit intros to his credit, and with his blessing they were almost always edited to 19 seconds to avoid triggering ASCAP/BMI rules about songwriting credits. Yes, I think HWS did the Gang of Four, Judas Priest, Legs Diamond, Robin Trower rounds. Unless I'm making this all up, Conrad Schnitzler (ex-Tangerine Dream) did a bit of similar work, nothing too well-known beyond Mayhem's first demo.

― Ian Christe, Monday, 10 March 2008 23:21 (seventeen years ago)

No worries Chaki. Obviously if there's a universe where Priest aren't metal, then water also runs uphill and Sharon Osbourne has good intentions.

― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:28 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, I think HWS did the Gang of Four, Judas Priest, Legs Diamond, Robin Trower rounds

I think this bit of aprocrypha's gonna need a little more filling out before anyone takes it seriously.

― Gorge, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 03:11 (seventeen years ago)

Bill Dana: My name -- Jose Jimenez. I am going to tell you a very funny hoke.

― Gorge, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 03:26 (seventeen years ago)

It's hard to be nostalgic when you can't remember anything.

― Gorge, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 03:32 (seventeen years ago)

no mention of Pink Floyd's The Wall?

Pink Floyd are in no way heavy metal.

― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:44 (seventeen years ago)

I'd always thought of "The Nile Song" as a metal stomp

― SecondBassman, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

I would agree that The Wall has both disco and metal elements. Not necessarily on the same songs though.

The riff in Hey You is pretty fucking metal.

And the disco beat pops up all over the place.

But I don't think of Floyd as a metal band.

― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 20:14 (seventeen years ago)

"CRAZY TRAIN"

― Eazy, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

<i>I think this bit of aprocrypha's gonna need a little more filling out before anyone takes it seriously.</i>

Please don't!

Iron Maiden - "Stranger in a Strange Land" ends on a disco beat

― Ian Christe, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

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