S/D: Band Albums Made After Everyone Had Left

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When the music's over...make one last album to cash in on the band's name.

Another thread made me think of this -- Name albums made after everyone important in the band had left. I'm think VU Squeeze and Doors Other Voices.

Others? Has their ever been a good (or even OK) album made in these circumstance?

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

kasenatz-katz to thread?

― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Just in case he doesn't show up -- is that an album or what?

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I suppose it depends on how much you like Daves Swarbrick and Pegg, but an argument could be made that every Fairport Convention record post Full House falls into this category. Gottle O'Geer certainly does.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Arguably The Fall without Hanley and Scanlon, MES once quoted as saying 'Steve Hanley IS The Fall.' Now it's just Smith and yer granny on bongos.

Bunnymen without Mac.

― rw, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Not that I've heard this one, but I'm pretty sure that The Heads - No Talking Just Head sucked it.

― maypang (maypang), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

What about that new Yardbirds record.. made some 20 years after everyone important left?

― derrick (derrick), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sure you could throw Pink Floyd in here; I'm just not sure where to draw the line.

― subgenius (subgenius), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

genesis' "calling all stations" has no gabriel, hackett, or collins, so who cared?

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Molly Hatchet vs Lynyrd Skynyrd

― dave q, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Dr. Feelgood are still out there and gigging with no remaining original members at all.

They're crap.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

No Talking Just Head's levels of sucktacularity weren't entirely the fault of The Heads. I feel that the majority of the blame for the lameness of that project falls on the heads (hyuck hyuck) of the guest vocalists (such as Ed "Baldy McGuyFromLive" Kowalczyk).

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

The Electric Prunes Mass In F Minor

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

That last Emperor record that was pretty much all Ihsahn has its moments, I guess. Haven't enjoyed it all that much when I've listened but I keep it around becasue it feels like the kind of thing that'll click with me one day... I think. The track with the planet of the apes battle horns is the key to this theory.

― original bgm, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Do The Billion Dollar Babies without Alice and The Spiders From Mars without Bowie and The Glitter Band without Gary count?

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

wait, they don't count. never mind.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

but there are plenty of county fair "Not Really The Coasters But If You Close Your Eyes And Pretend, Come On, What Do You Want From The Friggin' County Fair!" type outfits.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

the flying burrito brothers released like 6 albums with just one of the original five remaining (sneaky pete kleinow).

also, post 1988 beach boys

maybe even the most recent incarnation of don cabballero?

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Chicago, post Terry Kath
The Guess Who, post Randy Bachman

― christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Now remember these people have to actually put out an album using the original name -- can't be Creedence Clearwater Revisited.

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

the drifters. huge, classic r&b hits with the original '50s lineup. lead singer clyde mcphatter and everyone else left or disappeared, and they kept going with an entirely different lineup, no orignal members ... and became one of the biggest pop groups of the early '60s.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

"Now remember these people have to actually put out an album using the original name"

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf900/f920/f92094hxdrb.jpg

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Disagree about Dreja and McCarty not being important to the orig. Yardbirds sound (Y-Birds were very much a rhythm band, and w/ Samwell-Smith, those two were instrumental - so to speak - in keeping the sound consistent and the rhythm going while the band went through a whole bunch of hotshots) (but the new LP wasn't very interesting, and didn't rave like the olden days).

But interestingly, there was a while in the late '60s when NO orginal member was left in the band, and so one of the non-founding guitarists got some other guys and kept the group going under the moniker New Yardbirds, even did a Euro tour under that name, then recorded an alb but thought it'd go over like a lead balloon, hence changed name to...

Don't know if that counts.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Ozzy Osbourne...

― Elvis is Dead, Wednesday, 17 March 2004 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Didn't TSOL have a hair metal album with none of the original members sometime in the 80's?

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)

re: Don Cab. Damon Che is the only original member, but he was always an important member to begin with. i.e. he defined the bands sound more than anyone else.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)

David Van Day's Bucks Fizz

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)

The Byrds (unless you consider McGuinn to be the most important Byrd)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Lovin' Spoonful - Revelation: Revolution 69

Only drummer Joe Butler left in the band by 1969. I have a little bit of a soft spot for this album even though it has absolutely nada to do with the Lovin' Spoonful. I always liked Joe Butler's voice and the songs he sang in the Spoonful - how can you not like "Old Folks" on "Everything's Playing"? This album has the sublime "Never Goin' Back" on it plus some songs by Bonner/Gordon and Joe himself and, in general, is closer to the Turtles than the Lovin' Spoonful. The one horrendous misfire on the album is a track called "War Games" which is a 7 minute tape collage which begins with a recording of a woman giving birth and ends with a nuclear explosion - believe me it's a lot worse than you probably imagine.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

**Disagree about Dreja and McCarty not being important to the orig. Yardbirds sound**

Frank OTM.

Incidentally Dreja and McCarty are still in the Y/birds. Also in is Gyppie Mayo of Dr. Feelgood! They play in a boozer just down the road from me a couple of times a year (The Eel Pie club), although they're down to play the Royal Festival Hall in June.

Also regulars are The Artwoods incl Art Wood, Mick Avory (Kinks) and sometimes Ronnie Wood. I kid you not - a Rolling Stone who plays pub gigs.

The Downliners Sect also play and I see the Nashville Teens are booked in for May. Also the New Animals (I wonder how many original members they'll have?)

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparently, T-Rex are (still) going...

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Art Wood is his brother. But you knew that...

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

....yes!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.t-rex.co.uk/images/main_03.jpg

What you reckon?

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

The Zombies.

Lead singer Colin Blunstone and keyboardist/songwriter Rod Argent have just recently gotten back together and have just (this month) released an awesome album as The Zombies. Two years ago the same team released an album under their names (Blunstone and Argent) but they've gone to using The Zombies for this newest release, even though 3 out of 5 of the band members are doing other things, now.

And the music is good. I like it, anyway.

― jigue (jigue), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Can 'Free As A Bird' and 'Real Love' count as an album?

― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

In terms of everyone leaving, then I would think the Electric Prunes, Fairport Convention and Soft Machine own this thread - maybe the Flying Burrito Brothers too?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Amon Duul?

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

They still had original members in them - both incarnations, the Chris Karrer one and the John Weinzierl one that appears to have been based in Wales(!)

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

On driving south, a few years ago, I heared a radio appeal from the owner of the bandname "Unit 4 + 2" asking for musicians to join, so's they could get some guaranteed gigs. (Big hit in the sixties, "My feet begin to crumble")

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

... you mean "Concrete and Clay" of course, Russ Ballard was in them I believe.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

(i knew really. But when I was five...)

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I think "The Byrds" were due to play in my hometown sometime in the 1980s - The Byrds being, by this juncture: Michael Clark, Skip Battin, John York and others (probably Gib Guilbeau, who's a kind of musical necrophiliac who only seems to play in dead bands). However, the venue burned down in mysterious circumstances (true) - police talk of a long haired but balding figure with a droopy moustache and fringed suede jacket, answering to the name of David and obviously under the influence of narotics, who was seen loitering near the scene - muttering something about "those bastards fucking up Lady Friend".

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

So no-one's mentionned Starship yet?

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Aren't Napalm Death entirely absent of founding members? (which is to say, I think that even Shane Embury was not their original bassist).

― M Carty (mj_c), Thursday, 18 March 2004 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Wasn't it always about their drummer? (wasn't he in about three of these bands?)

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 18 March 2004 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Punk also-rans The Lurkers are currently being fronted by a guy called Arturo Bassick.

Now OK, it is technically true that Arturo was in the original line-up of the Lurkers.

However: (a) he was actually the bass player rather than the vocalist; (b) he left the band in 1977 (to form a nice little Power Pop / New Wave band called PinPoint IIRC) and consequently only played on The Lurkers first single Shadow / Love Story (and maybe the second, Freakshow?) and not only any of their real classic singles (Ain't Got A Clue, I Don't Need To Tell Her, Just 13, Last Guitar In Town) or albums (Fulham Fallout, God's Lonely Men).

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 March 2004 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh and his name isn't really Arturo Bassick at all - it's Arthur Billingsley.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 March 2004 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

How cruel of you to shatter our illusions

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 March 2004 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, they were on the Big Breakfast once, doing "Go ahead punk (make my day)"

It's just as if Wattie had replaced, um, Barry in Eddie and the hot rods..

No, I'll think of a better one in a mo. With Wattie, obv.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 18 March 2004 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

(Apparently, Esso can't play drums anymore as he has bad gout...)

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 18 March 2004 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Esso's a great guy. Last time I saw him he was working as a delivery man for a brewery - and was apparently drinking nearly as much as he was delivering.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 March 2004 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

The best analogy I can think of is Glen Matlock starting to bill his current band as Sex Pistols.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 March 2004 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry Mark, you meant in terms of the difference in demeanour, attitude and performance between Howard Wall and Arturo didn't you?

How about Wattie replacing Neil Tennant in The Pet Shop Boys?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 March 2004 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

the orange juice

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 18 March 2004 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

except, not a cash-in, haha, and it's a great album.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 18 March 2004 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

"the orange juice"

Edwyn Collins was always at least 50% of Orange Juice as far as most people were concerned.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 March 2004 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

uh.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 18 March 2004 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Stew, yes. Wattie -> Neil, I mean.

I always thought of Howard the wail as a cooldude.

When the lurkers first reformed (at least two members correct, as many as three), they sarkily laffed that Howard had become a postman. A letter in the next weeks sounds from H said 1) no he hadn't 2) nothing wrong with being a postman in these days of unemployment and that.

Wherever he is.. Still a cool dude. (Unless he isn;t a cool dude in which case..)

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 18 March 2004 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

When the lurkers first reformed (at least two members correct, as many as three)

Well, Pete Stride was there with Arturo....

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 March 2004 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

The Zombies

while i'd prefer colin and rod not call themselves the zombies, rod did write all of the band's hits and colin did sing 'em all, so you can hardly accuse them of fronting a band without any important original members.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

quite.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

King Crimson, surely. Especially after the first band broke up and the completely new band made Islands, at which point no one knew they were going to keep doing this sort of thing for three fucking decades.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Rod wrote the big 3 hits, She's Not There/Tell Her No/Time Of The Season, but Chris White was equally talented and wrote around 50% of their songs. It's not the Zombies without him...and his glasses.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Haven't they got someone else to wear the glasses?

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

We sort of did this once before : No original members

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

dr. c, i agree with you completely about the importance of various individual zombies, but the question posed up top wasn't "band albums made after some people had left" but rather "band albums made after everyone had left," and therefore, as per the rules laid out in thread #4407772, post #1, paragraph #2, i hereby declare the zombies ineligible.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

agreed

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Gong may qualify here. The first post-Daevid Allen LP (Shamal) I consider real Gong but the next one (Gazeuze/Expresso) saw more members missing and I consider it a different band. They eventually called themselves Pierre Moerlin's Gong and devolved into other spinoffs (Gongzilla, Mother Gong).

― nickn (nickn), Thursday, 18 March 2004 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

every Pink Floyd album made after The Piper At the Gates of Dawn should count. Back in '67 Syd WAS Pink Floyd, was he not?

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 18 March 2004 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"King Crimson, surely."

I think Robert Fripp would argue that even if it's just him and your granny on keyboards and double-neck guitar, fed through a bank of effects processors....

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 March 2004 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course the Zombies 'Imagine The Swan/Conversation Off Floral Street' single was really Argent (line-up R.Argent/Rodford/Ballard/Henrit), so they have released recds with only one original member in the past.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 19 March 2004 10:00 (twenty-two years ago)

To elaborate on the Napalm Death query above, in terms of recorded line-ups:

Scum - Mick Harris, Nick Bullen, Justin Broadrick (Bill Steer and Lee Dorrian appear on side 2)
From Enslavement... - Mick Harris, Bill Steer, Lee Dorrian, Shane Embury (joined from the Electro Hippies)

Then my memory gets sketchy - Steer and Dorrian leave, but unsure in which order (Dorrian to Cathedral, Steer to Carcass who, in a bizarre twist of fate, were the band Lee Dorrian originally left to join Napalm Death). Mick Harris left sometime around 92, not sure when Shane Embury left(96?). I don't think there's currently anyone in the band that was there before about 98 - Greenaway was sacked in about 94, don't know when he rejoined.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 19 March 2004 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)

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