Mission of Burma, "ONOffON"

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Sounds, in many ways, shockingly like their old material (which I shouldn't find surprising because a few of the songs are actually 20 years old). Even the vocals sound strikingly unchanged. But the songs themselves, especially "Enthusiast", "Wounded World" and "Nicotine Bomb" are pretty rockin'. I'm enjoying it.

Simon H., Monday, 22 March 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG!!!SOMEONE MAKE ME A COPY BEFORE I IMPLODE!!!!!!OMG!!

brg30 (brg30), Monday, 22 March 2004 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)

It is indeed AWESOME.

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 22 March 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

First off this kicks ass. I mean really. It was set up for failure. Great band with brief influential career reunites 20 years later and sits down to record an album. But this is incredible. It does sound like ye Burma of olde, but at the same time it doesn't sound nostalgic. It sounds like they did the ideal. With as much energy and vigor as they had when they left off, they picked up and sound just as exciting and different today. It's just as exciting for me to listen to as catching early Burma tracks for the first time. Its moments like this that give you faith that there really is something important and lasting that you get so excited about and pissed off about with music.

Oh and what exactly is this being passed around? Where are we catching it in the process, since it's not being released until May?

Mike Salmo (salmo), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

geeta in agreeing with douglas shocker!

geeta (geeta), Monday, 22 March 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm desperately trying to control my expectations for this....athough mike, simon, and douglas's praise are encouraging indeed....if my favorite band of all time could make another great album 20 years on, it would indeed make my 2004.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 22 March 2004 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm dying to hear this. Only band whose demos and rarities I refuse to go without.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm dying to hear this. Only band whose demos and rarities I refuse to go without

MoB's rarities thingy - Forget - is better than a lot of proper albums of their contemporaries...I think some of those songs are being rerecorded for the new one as well.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

How's the redone (or done properly anyway) "Hunt Again"? (Matt I think they did that and "Playland")

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Listened more and it's holding up well - it gets better as it goes along. One weird thing is that in the middle of the record there's a vaguely Pearl Jam-esque ballad called "Prepared" which I find sort of nice but many others might find it a bit much. Lots of little standout moments all over the place. Layers. Goodness.

Simon H., Tuesday, 23 March 2004 05:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Swope missing from the current lineup?

If so, who's doing tapes?

***waiting for the two tracks from Matador records to download***

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 07:25 (twenty-two years ago)

- Swope

+ Weston

Joshua Houk (chascarrillo), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 08:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, "Dirt," "Hunt Again" and "Playland" have all been in the repertoire for a couple of decades now...

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 08:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Listened to the mp3s on the Matador site. Heart palpitates. I can't possibly wait until May for this!

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Did they cut a studio version of "Peking Spring" for the new record?

earlnash, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Nope--I think there are enough well-recorded versions of that one in circulation.

Apparently the vinyl version will also include a cover of the Dils' "Class War," which I'm very excited about. Burma's never done too many covers, but the ones they've done they TOTALLY DETONATE--I'm thinking of Pere Ubu's "Heart of Darkness," the Stooges' "1970" and the incredible version of Eno's "Seven Deadly Finns" I saw them do in Philadelphia.

My favorite on the new one right now is "The Setup."

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Douglas, wait till you hear their version of "Astronomy Domine." (And for those who saw it at its debut at Irving Plaza, the version at sound check was way better, just astounding). It's actually kind of a surprise that it took them this long to cover Syd Barrett, since he's such a Roger hero (he used to do "Interstellar Overdrive" on Maximum Electric Piano, and No Man did "Lucifer Sam").

They once (literally) did an atonal version of "A Hard Day's Night" that was amazing -- but they felt it was too much of a gimmick.

The two regular covers that they never recorded were "Break on Through" (with the signature riff completely transmuted) and Love's "Can't Explain." ("1970" replaced the latter in the repertoire, which replaced the former, which dates back to their start. Their version of "Break" had the same structure as their "1970" -- complete breakdown into chaos in the middle, then bring back the opening riff.) Probably loads of tape collectors have those.

They also did Cream's "N.S.U." three times in Boston in 2002; hopefully that (and the Philly "Finns") will see light on a future live album. I've told them they should consider releasing the Philly show as is.

Eric M. Van, Thursday, 25 March 2004 03:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard two songs on a Matador sampler today. "Dirt" pales to the live version, but the ballad "Prepared" has me fairly curious about the rest of the album. That said, neither track blew me away like the old stuff does. "Dirt" in particular felt kind of stilted. Maybe I was expecting the old sound too much or something.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 25 March 2004 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i have to admit i'm excited about this, despite common sense.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

though i WASNT excited about the wire records, and they turned out great. so hmmm.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

that live version of "1970" is incredible

I guess I'm interested to hear this now - high praise from trustworthy ILMers is eclipsing my cynicism a bit

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 25 March 2004 03:52 (twenty-two years ago)

on a given day i might say burma's "heart of darkness" is better than ubu's.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 03:54 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 03:54 (twenty-two years ago)

It'd better be good cos it looks like being my birthday present and I don't want my birthday ruined by Mission of Burma

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Friday, 26 March 2004 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"Roger Miller Ruined My Life"- next on "Maury"

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 26 March 2004 10:27 (twenty-two years ago)

It wouldn't be the first time

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Friday, 26 March 2004 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)

My take on the record: if people are looking for something as edgy as Vs., they may well be disappointed. But Vs. was not really an accurate representation of the band; the sense that the band had moved further outside after the EP was mostly an illusion caused by the song selection of the two records. Secrets, Fun World, Certain Fate, Johnny Burma, and Einstein's Day are all early Burma songs, whereas Revolver, Red, and Fame and Fortune all postdate them. Swap the two sets of songs (and add Progress and Forget to Vs.) and you get more of a balance between the two records in terms of edginess vs. poppiness. And a much better idea of what the new record is like.

OTOH, I think people will be flabbergasted at how memorable the songs on the new record are. A Burma record that has all the qualities of their old stuff plus a score of melodies and riffs that you can't get out of your head--that's something else. Roger's "Falling" is a serious candidate for the best thing they've ever done.

Eric M. Van, Saturday, 27 March 2004 05:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Mission of Burma will be special guests on 6 Music - Tom Robinson tonight.

Today, we have a very special live session from seminal post-punk band Mission Of Burma. The Boston based group made their biggest impact in the early '80s with a number of releases, most notably an EP whichfeatured their calling card, That's When I Reach For My Revolver.

[Reminder, this show has a listen again on demand feature]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 1 April 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't want to rush to judgment on this and post it immediately, since I wanted the songs to soak in a little more, but I'll come out and say I think this is definitely their best record.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 1 April 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't want to rush to judgment on this and post it immediately, since I wanted the songs to soak in a little more, but I'll come out and say I think this is definitely their best record.

Jesus Fuck, Ben, don't play with my emotions like this!! Holy crap I hope I agree with you! damn, dog...when is the release date? (also when's the last time I was excited to buy the vinyl and CD of an album on it's release date...) crap I wish places still did midnight monday nite/tuesday morning openings....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 1 April 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

it's the top album of 2004 at the mo, according to
fast 'n' bulbous
http://www.fastnbulbous.com/rock.htm

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 1 April 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Best Burma record, easily my album of the year. There's no way anything can touch this.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 1 April 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

are you sure? there is still 9 months left of the year !

Forthcoming Albums 2004
http://www.geocities.com/altmartinuk/2004f.html

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 1 April 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Best Versus record evah!

I'd forgotten how much I love Peter Prescott's voice.

Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 1 April 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd forgotten how much I love Peter Prescott's voice

you should check out the stuff he's done with Consonant in the last couple years...it's really great (get the s/t debut first though...it's way better than the followup, but they are both worthwhile)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 1 April 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

If it's nothing but whoops and yowls, I will most definitely enjoy it.

Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 1 April 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait -- are you confusing Prescott with Clint Conley?

Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 1 April 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Which one wears the bowler and monacle?

christhamrin (christhamrin), Thursday, 1 April 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait -- are you confusing Prescott with Clint Conley?

indeed I am! sorry ignore that post. (i'm such a big Consonant booster I fired before aiming on that one)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 1 April 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Matt, I don't think you'll be disappointed. The album just kills. Definitely the most convincing pro-reunion argument a band has ever made.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 1 April 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

no way, this is

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000008FVQ.01._PE_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 1 April 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"Definitely the most convincing pro-reunion argument a band has ever made"

I dunno, don't forget Wire had 'Snakedrill' AND 'Send'

Sasha (sgh), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Just got back from their gig at ICA in London tonight. I was shocked at the fact that they weren't even sold out by the time the doors opened, but fuck it - that's why I got in at all. Never thought I'd get to see these guys live, since I always happen to be away from my local venues when they do tour.

Anyway, here's the setlist, or something close to it. The sets are definitely the real thing; the encores are from memory, so might be slightly off.

Set 1
Fame and Fortune
Mica
Into the Fire
The Enthusiast
This Is Not a Photograph
Einstein's Day
Nicotine Bomb
Playland
Max Ernst
Academy Fight Song

Set 2
Dirt
The Setup
Peking Spring
Fun World
Trem Two
Fake Blood
Wounded World
That's How I Escaped My Certain Fate
Forget
That's When I Reach for My Revolver
Learn How

Encore 1
Astronomy Domine
Secrets

Encore 2
The Ballad of Johnny Burma
Dead Pool

Encore 3
1970

Or something like that. Crazy fun standing right at the front of stage. I still have a lot of ringing in my right ear, but totally worth it. Thank god that my flight to the States is tomorrow, otherwise I would have been a victim of bad timing yet again.

Oh, and Roger said that he has no idea what is going on with the documentary and doesn't really care much one way or the other. Disappointing, to say the least, but at least it leaves less footage of Moby masturbating over Burma available to the public...

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 4 April 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Encore 1 included their cover of the Dils' "Class War". Lot of people left after Encore 2 & missed "1970". 4th time I've seen them on this reunion stint & they're getting better all the time.

Wandering Boy Poet, Sunday, 4 April 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe they didn't play Secrets, then. Good job spotting the Dils cover, man.

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 4 April 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Eh. S'alright.

David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 4 April 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

God, that was a good gig. My ears are a bit fucked but it was worth it. Class War was ace.

Ricardo (RickyT), Sunday, 4 April 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

okay this is really good. i expected it to be either awful or hair-pullingly great based on this thread. but it's just really good. best burma album? no way.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 4 April 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Ahh! They played Mica and Trem 2! Those are a couple of my favorites. I also really like the Enthusiast. My mom made fun of me for likeing it.

Aja (aja), Sunday, 4 April 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"fake blood" is AWESOME tho

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 4 April 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

They definitely do them out here in L.A... I expect to see tons of Morrissey fans in KROQ t-shirts camped out when that disc rolls out. And I once went to Cheapo, years ago, when I was visiting an ex-girlfriend who was going to Macalester College -- and this is pretty obscure, but it was to pick up Shudder to Think's "50,000 B.C." on it's release date (!)

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoo!

I hate Cheapo. They are ridiculously expensive. Still go there all the time. The one by my house is the 'metal' Cheapo.

Onoffon is one of the few albums I will buy even though I could burn a promo copy. That and Madvillian.

So does it sound a bit more like Signals then? Or Consonant?

christhamrin (christhamrin), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

In many ways it's really all over the map. There are three Peter songs, all catchy a la Volcano Suns. The three new Clint songs are catchy a la Consonant, as you'd expect. What's going to take people by surprise is that all six of Roger's new songs are genuinely catchy, even though they themselves cover a wide stylistic range.

I'll even make a distinction here between "catchy" and "tuneful." A lot of Roger's earlier stuff was tuneful but the melodies, no matter how pleasant to hear, did not for some reason stick in your head and run around there. In contrast, "Fever Moon" on the new record isn't particularly tuneful by Roger's standards, but it sticks in your head really nicely. "Falling" burns into your brain rather hypnotically.

The result is an album that asks to be played over and over again for the reason that pop albums usually do -- to re-experience all the melodies rummaging around your brain -- in addition to the standard Burma reason of wanting to get the top half of your skull removed.

Now, note that my take on the album is based on knowing the material from many live shows, and hearing the album 3 times. I do not currently have a copy to sate my appetite . . and cannot yet comment on how it stands up to repeated plays.

Eric M. Van (Eric M. Van), Friday, 9 April 2004 04:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"wounded world" reminds me of that lostprophets single

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

FINALLY burma are commercially viable

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I have not forced myself to like "Wounded World" yet.

You are not helping.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Friday, 9 April 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

People who are loving the new Burma - what is your opinion of Consonant? I am a irrepressible Burma fan, and a huge Conley fan in general (loved "Red Clouds", etc.), but I can barely listen to Consonant. Especially the 2nd disc. What's the take?

southern lights (southern lights), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

actually loved the first consonant...second one is very listless sounding though...I'm not a big Bob Weston as a producer guy in general....hope the new Burma sounds good.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually learned most of what I know (and can barely put to use) about recording from Bob - he is a very very experienced and astute engineer, is extremely knowledgeable about signal path, etc., and doesn't have many peers in the indie world for his musical sense.

His philosophy of production seems to be set-em-up-and-let-em-play without the detailed approach to clarity of sound (especially drum sounds) that is typically necessary to make that work with impact.

But I know he knows exactly what he is doing and it is most likely a very considered viewpoint. I find the records listless as well and I can't find the songs in there.

[I love Bob's work on the loops with Burma live]

southern lights (southern lights), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

mission of guided by burma

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 12 April 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

How angry should I be that I have to miss their free show in Columbia, Missouri (where I live) to go to a wedding in Chicago that weekend?
Keep in mind that on the very same day they are playing [may 7th, with local groups and a "national act" (they put out a record on Cold Crush) whose roots are firmly planted in this town and are all good friends] the Sun City Girls are playing at the Empty Bottle in Chicago (with Neung Phak), which I plan to attend.
So, it's MoB v SCG?

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Friday, 16 April 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

After first listen:

Send>OnoffON

By a lot.

Sometimes I just want to be like, "Stop yelling at me dad!" But then

Clint Conley's songs are pretty terrible. I think "Dumb Joy" done up Mission of Burma style would have been good. What I don't need is him cooing at me saying he is preparing his heart for me w/cello or whatever in the background.

Might like it better if they got rid of 3 or 4 songs.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Sunday, 18 April 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
God this is good...

M Specktor, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

OK PITCHFORKE

GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

bought it at lunch, have only had time to listen to first 4 tracks, am liking very much so far!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Picked this up over lunch but haven't listened to it yet, so I'll stick to talking about the packaging: I hadn't heard in advance that it was being released in both regular cd and hybrid sacd/cd format. But it was, the difference was $1 at my local indie. It's also in a Super Jewel Box™, which I'd never seen before. Not sure how I feel about this.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you guys people who ONLY use pitchfork to learn of new music

GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I mostly use a divining rod to find new music

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I give it an 8.8!

christhamrin (christhamrin), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Out of 15.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

My mom says thankyou to Chris Ott. She just bought it on vinyl, even though she's already got it one cd.

Aja (aja), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

on first listen, kinda of blah.

jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

What do you think of "Enthusiast"? Do you think it's weird? Or blah?

Aja (aja), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

tour dates (at least, so far....)

May 7th: Columbia, MO @ Hearnes Center FieldHouse, KCOU Spring Stage (University of Missouri, Columbia). 4:30pm

May 14th: Philadelphia, PA @ Theatre of Living Arts (334 South Street) 9:00pm, all ages (w/ The Dresden Dolls)

May 15th: Washington, DC @ 9:30 Club (815 V St. N.W.) 9:30pm, all ages (w/ The Fiery Furnaces)

May 22nd: Boston, MA @ Avalon Ballroom (15 Lansdowne Street) 6:00pm, all ages (w/ The Dresdon Dolls, Sunburned Hand of the Man)

June 4th: Vancouver, BC @ Commodore Ballroom (868 Granville Street) 9:00pm, 19+ (w/ Kinski)

June 5th: Seattle, WA @ Neumo's (925 East Pike Street) 6:00pm, 21+ (w/ Kinski)

June 6th, Portland, OR @ Crystal Ballroom (1332 West Burnside) 8:00pm, all ages (w/ Kinski)

June 9th, San Francisco, CA @ The Fillmore (1805 Geary Boulevard) 8:00pm, all ages (w/ Kinski)

June 10th, Los Angeles, CA @ Henry Fonda Theatre (6126 Hollywood Blvd) 7:30pm, all ages (w/ Kinski)

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

fuckin' Kinski, man. They ruin EVERYTHING

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

!!!

Uh oh.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

donna brown otm.

jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The DC show is one night after a Q & not U. I can go to one or the other, but not both. How lame, but I must say: "help me realize this is an extremely obvious decision!!!".

Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

in your face, DB

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost, duh

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, apparently Pretty Girls Make Graves got put on the Seattle bill as well. I might just have to run to the Vancouver show now.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

*Nelson Muntz laugh*... oh, FUCK

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

anybody read Roger Miller's diary in Slate this week? He big ups the Quails and Lungfish.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 May 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

seeing them tonight! *kicks feet in anxious glee*

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 14 May 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I just realized Tanya Donnelly (Belly/Muses/Breeders) sings back-up on Falling. Which I find pretty weird...there has to be another chick in all of Boston with a more distinct set of pipes, no?

You can hardly hear her...which might be the idea.

ddb, Friday, 14 May 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, Helgeson, what do you think?

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Friday, 14 May 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I just realized Tanya Donnelly (Belly/Muses/Breeders) sings back-up on Falling. Which I find pretty weird...

Donnelly also sang backing vocals years back on some Roger Miller solo stuff like 'Run Water Run' off Win! Instantly!.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 14 May 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

They totally kicked ass last night. While they didn't play "Secrets," "Learn How" or "Dead Pool" they DID do an awesome cover of the Wipers' "Youth Of America."

Also Clint Conley had some bass-strap trouble. The roadie was AWOL and he couldn't get the strap to shorten until someone suggested loudly that he ties knots into it. So I got to see him play while propping the bass up on his knee.

I have to buy the album asap.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 May 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

also I found it kind of ironic Kristin Hersh's new band was playing in Philly the same night. She told Spin Vs. is one of her favorite albums of all time! Must of sucked to be competing for draw.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 May 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

how long did "Youth of America" go for?

christhamrin (christhamrin), Saturday, 15 May 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think it was Wipers-length, the guitar solos were probably shorter, but they incorporated the same amount of verses if I'm not mistaken. I was pogoing too much to really pay attention. Miller had those verse-capping "whoo"'s down great.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 May 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Donna and Jack, I'll trade you Kinski for The Dresdon Dolls.

brg30 (brg30), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

you do have a point there where ultimate awfulness is concerned. drama geeks tend to always take first place.

jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I was actually hoping to catch them but when I got there they'd just finished their set. I didn't really mind since I didn't know it was just keyboard and drums (plus it meant I got to blast my eardrums with nuthin' but the MoB).

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

In DC "Youth of America" was 6:30. So they've taken three or four minutes out of the middle.

Eric M. Van (Eric M. Van), Friday, 21 May 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Bryan, if you're badmouthing the DDs, I'm driving up to EastHo & using your mouth as an incense holder.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 21 May 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, Helgeson, what do you think?

Listened to it alot...I think it's very very good, but probably not classic. I really like some of the tape editing stuff Weston does, good job of filling in for him (esp the section on The Set Up)....Overall, does a good job of seeming like a Mission of Burma album, you almost feel like no time has elapsed....

Overall, I think Miller's songs rule the album...Connely's seem a bit weaker than some of the songs he's put on the Consonant records, and I really can't get into Nicotine Bomb yet (that's the only one that seems really out of place to me, almost country rock feeling)....I like Prescott's punk ones though, they keep the album from feeling too smooth...

Lot's of really great songs, Wounded World and The Set Up are prob now among my fav. Burma tunes....the re-dos of the old stuff are very very similar, although playland is a little crazier yet somehow not quite as cool as the orig....Hunt Again is a beautiful song....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 21 May 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

did someone just mention my DRESDEN DOLLS? its about time people

kephm, Friday, 21 May 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Saw the show yesterday -- dresden dolls were great openers, won me over totally. sunburned hand were... well anyway. they joined burma onstage for a song. and tanya came on to sing backup on falling and there were a few local strings onstage for the songs with strings.

tapes were more mellow than they used to be, making the trax from the EP sound sorta weaker. i thought the show wasn't matching up to the first reunion show i saw (but then what could!?) but then the second half of the set kicked in, trem two was godlike, the six encores were fantastic -- not having read this thread i had NO IDEA that YOA and Class War were in the works.

Also played what they said was a new song for them -- a really mellow ballad given the tape-buildup treatment.

i love it when they leave stage between the sets and the tapes keep echoing and building and just running this humming so sublow through the whole room and the vibrations are just tearing through my system.

oh yeah -- wounded world is totally the highlight of the new album, but i haven't given it a good listen on a quality system just my crappy discman. miller's stage presence after all these years is fantastic. oh! and they dedicated "fake blood" to "my ex-wife, britney"

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 23 May 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
"falling" reminds of let's active for some reason

need to keep telling myself that Versus were influenced by these guys and not the other way 'round

the surface noise is another unwelcome bonus resulting from a preamp's inab (ele, Friday, 11 June 2004 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)


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