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The Results of Simon's booknaming contest are in. I got 2 honorary mentions and a top 10...take that! What do people think of the suggestions? I'm not going to give away the winner because I like how Simon presents it, go check it out, but I think it's fantastic.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 16 April 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't really care about post-punk or Simon Reynolds (though I do like books!), but I enjoyed that entry. :>

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 April 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Any word on a publishing date?

― kjoerup, Friday, 16 April 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Sinker's and Howie's made me laugh out loud!

I'm afraid I find the winner a bit.. obvious?

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

if its any consolation dan i think he fucked up, "doubt beat" is an amazing title, save it!

― duke dubious, Friday, 16 April 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe it's also because the line has too distinct a recognition factor for the band concerned (who themselves seem too... singular to represent the post-punk movement). In my head, anyway.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Blissed In was hilarious but I thought Mr.Finney's suggestion was really beautiful. Title that won...mwaaah. I'll buy the book of course although all this talk about unreconstructed Marxism is making me a bit nervous.

Actually looking forward to the endless discussion the book is going to generate on ILM more than the book itself.

― Omar (Omar), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

It's going to be fun!

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

haha beyond good and eno!

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

it would have been amazing if he called it "We Oppose All Rock and Roll"

I guess you have to try and sell a book though, hence the winner.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked 'Like Punk Happened!', as a serious contender.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

SPOILER: Oh, I didn't even realise it was a Pop Group thing - I was just thinking of Orange Juice. Still, I don't like it much.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Jerry the Nipper's was great, same with Jess'... the winner is blah. I'm all about reading this book though.

― adam (adam), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Jerry's was so Jerry it hurt. I'm still laughing at David Howie's, and SR's comment.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the runner up is the Pop Group reference, not the winner, right?

The fact that Rip It Up is a funky groovy song that sings about Boredom by the Buzzcocks and then cops it's 2 note solo makes it such a perfect title...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I really should learn to read thing properly.

I agree it's perfect in theory. It fits, but I'd have preferred something a bit sparkier.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Its a really good, snappy title, and makes me look forward to reading this book.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 16 April 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, fuck my moaning.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 16 April 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Is anyone else having trouble loading that page?

― de, Friday, 16 April 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought "The Crowd in Portsmouth Wanted to Kill Us" was Mark P's comment about Alternative TV's 1978 tour with Here & Now?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 16 April 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Reading this thread without clicking on the link makes for an interesting game as you try to guess what the title actually is. ;-) (I like Mark S, Geeta, Tim and Jess's suggestions myself -- I clearly am divorced from even casual blog browsing these days if I had no idea any of this vote stuff was going on!)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 April 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I was telling my special friend that I only got as far as the comedy section. "The man has no poetry in him!" I wailed. "Would he like some?" she responded.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 16 April 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Eww.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 16 April 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

If perusing through a book store aimlessly, the only two titles that would stop me and make me flip through them would be:

We Oppose All Rock & Roll
Like Punk Happened! Post Punk & New Wave

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree w/Dan Selzer and am really looking forward to this

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I was totally gonna suggest Like Punk Happened but I was too shy.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

And I'm dying to read this.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i'm kind of glad simon didn't choose mine so i can use it myself now at some point

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm pretty stoked about reading this: 78-84 postpunk is possibly my favorite era of music ever and "blissed out" is one of my favorite books. and i actually like the title that won!

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 17 April 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh, and I'm listening to New Gold Dream now, I WONDER WHY. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 April 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Like Punk Happened was totally the best

― gareth (gareth), Saturday, 17 April 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe he decided he didn't want 'punk' in the title.

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 17 April 2004 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Doubt Beat was my favourite too (he says crawlingly)

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Saturday, 17 April 2004 08:57 (twenty-one years ago)

love like anthrax.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 17 April 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Beyond Good & Eno - Great!

The Eno That Men Do
Eno Woman
Eno Has No Boundaries
Am I Eno?
Touch Of Eno
Unholy Forces Of Eno

and so on...

I would have called the book, Pitch Invasion

― mzui, Saturday, 17 April 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Sinker's and Howie's made me laugh out loud!

Me too! Those two are my favorites, I guess I go for the sillier titles.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 17 April 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks for the Like Punk Happened! love - I like the winner best though.
my fave of ones I submitted was:

78.79.80.81...

― Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 17 April 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I stand by my title. my other suggestion was 'wistful thinking'. too close to the bone or too far from home?

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 17 April 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

simon of the desert, better dead than postpunk ted (never gets old)

― prima fassy (mwah), Saturday, 17 April 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

oh sure it does

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 17 April 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

The title he has chosen is rubbish.

Perhaps, one of these days, Reynolds will give one of us a title, or something, rather than sponging off, or from, us, and then wallowing in the lather that the sponge has spawned.

The Nipper's main title was not supposed to be a joke.

― the blissfox, Saturday, 17 April 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah, he totally should have called it Sponge-Spawned Lather

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 17 April 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

who are "us"?

― tom west (thomp), Saturday, 17 April 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

then wallowing in the lather that the sponge has spawned

???

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 17 April 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, I don't get that, pinefox.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 18 April 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

We are the lather, he is the sponge, you are the quarry.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

really dislike the song but i think it's the perfect title. is the book on slsk yet?

― stirmonster, Sunday, 18 April 2004 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

so i guess his book on the last five years will be - Rip It Off All Over Again!

― twelve, Sunday, 18 April 2004 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

house of jealous haters

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Sunday, 18 April 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

one last suggestion-

contort yourbook.

ok, that's stupid. Cheers for Twitch's Zevolution 12" drastic Contort Yourself remix and some totally awesome originals, one featuring some ex-Fire Engines...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 18 April 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

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I don't know if anyone noted this above, but there are TWO music books called Rip It Up already (here and here--admittedly neither of them are STARTING again, but both were published fairly recently) Do publishers like books with similar titles? Do they worry at all about confusing their prospective audience?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I would've been a fan of 'It's THE new THING!'

― Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

So when does this thing come out?

Or more to the point, when will it be uploaded to textz.com?

― kjoerup, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...

When is this book going to be published?

This Autumn?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 August 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fall.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 August 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

nice one, The Fall are post-punk and Reynolds lives in the US, where Autumn doesn't exist !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 August 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

That's news to me. I'm looking forward to this book much more than I thought I would be.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 30 August 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Same here. All those LTM reissues in particular must have been gearing me up for this big time!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 August 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like SR to post to this thread - to clarify the details.

Release Date, ISBN, Number of Pages, Publisher, Marketing Blurb, Price etc

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 August 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It isn't listed in booksinprint.com yet as a forthcoming release.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 30 August 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Barring a hitch of some sort, the UK/Commonwealth/Europe edition should be out in April 2005, on Faber & Faber. Pages? Not sure precisely, but it's.... substantial. Big period--seven years, 1978-84. Also has quite a lot of illustrations.

The US version, on Viking Penguin, looks likely to be significantly
shorter. It may also come out slightly later--that's still up in the air.

― simon r, Monday, 30 August 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 30 August 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

amazon.co.uk will be our friend.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 August 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Then again, how appropriate is it that a UK-based release will appear in America shortened, chopped up, at a later period and overall not in keeping with the original design.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 August 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely it's the UK version that should be "chopped up"??

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 30 August 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

April 2005 ! I will nearly be 35 by then!

Re: 78-84

Stop Press !
I was expecting a closing chapter on the 00s post-punk revival, particularly 2002 onwards - with references to ILM and the blogosphere !

This was our chance to be written into history - and now we are left out !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 August 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

To be honest that would RUIN THE ENTIRE BOOK for me.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll be content as long as I******l aren't mentioned.

Surely it's the UK version that should be "chopped up"??

I think this must be a difference in terminological use.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Blissed Out started it's story mainly in 1986, whilst this post punk book goes to up to 1984 - meaning that 1985 remains undocumented.

I was expecting 1985 to be included in this new book.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

1985 = Live Aid and the Jesus and Mary Chain.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

1985 = The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace and New Order - Lowlife, and The Sisters of Mercy - First and Last and Always

Send SR back to his research desk !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...

Rip It Up and Start Again: Postpunk 1978-1984 by Simon Reynolds

It's the most anticipated music book of the year/ decade/ century/ this millenium. Simon Reynolds post punk history book is now available for pre-ordering on various UK e-commerce websites.

more info @
http://djmartian.blogspot.com/2005_02_01_djmartian_archive.html#110917519676427700

Price Comparison @ best-book-price.co.uk:
http://www.best-book-price.co.uk/compare-book-price-code-0571215696.html

Product Details
Paperback
Published: 21 April, 2005
Publisher: Faber and Faber Ltd
ISBN: 0571215696
RRP: £12.99

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

I am not crazy about the cover!

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0571215696.02.MZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

i think i like it

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, looks good from here. But is it based on anything in particular?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

What about North America info?

― alex in montreal, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

the fonts used in postpunk magazine - ZigZag ?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

According to SR agent:

http://www.tonypeake.com/agency/clients/simon_reynolds.htm

RIP IT UP AND START AGAIN: Post Punk 1978 - 1984
UK: Faber and Faber 2005
USA: Viking

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Postpunk from PIL to .........Radiohead? ;-/

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

ha that probably refers to the Uncut post-punk article that linked in KidA to postpunk

in 1984 Radiohead were still in school !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Is the US version still supposed to be shorter? This will make a big difference in my ordering process.

― mike a, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

The US version will be called *The Roots Of Radiohead*. It will be half as long, but it will contain many color pictures of Radiohead as well as one black & white photo of the Gang Of Four. All the chapter titles will be changed to the names of various Radiohead songs as well. That's what I heard anyway.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

haha!

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

Just order it from Amazon.co.uk. You can take like 17% off the price because if it's delivered to the USA, you don't have to pay the VAT. Shipping rates are pretty reasonable too. Combine it with a CD or DVD you've been eyeing.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1580086578.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

:) :) :)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

Haha, that's the American version.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

There isn't any VAT on books in the UK so i'm not sure if that applies, Spencer.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

and I'm not sure how that would translate in terms of shipment to Canada

― alex in montreal, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

xpost, ah didn't know that - I've only ordered CDs and DVDs...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

Has anyone read this yet? I ordered it from Amazon UK because I'm too impatient to wait until Feb. of 2006, which is when it's released in the US. Apparently, the US edition will omit the SST chapter!

― Jeff K (jeff k), Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

There's a new thread about it:

Rip it up and start again

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

New review by that terrible fogey, Nick Lezard. Very positive, but this line:

And Reynolds's prose is very good indeed. He follows in the line of descent from Lester Bangs to Greil Marcus to Ben Thompson...

had me scratching my head a bit. Not that SR's prose isn't good, but placing Ben Thomson as the heir of LB seems rather... random.

Finished the book myself a couple of days ago. It's a tremendously impressive piece of research and synthesis. The sections on Sheffield's Meatwhistle (!) artslab, and the last days of ZTT, in particular, made me nostalgic for a space and time I missed out on. But one of Simon's key points is that meta-minded musicians and creative critics synergetically birthed this gorgeous tumult. And I kind of found myself hankering for Simon to insinuate himself into the story a bit more - in a Morleyish way, I suppose. To take more risks in the telling of the tale. At times he seems to be reigning in his desire to theorise or rhapsodise or problematise. His reluctance to do this makes the book more accessible, and more successful in terms of presenting the times in a fantastically lucid documentary archive... but I wonder if the book, in itself, couldn't have conjured the spirit as well the fact of the times. Possibly he doesn't need to, cos that's what Morley's 'Words and Music' is for.

But these are minor gripes. I will still be missing out on biting my nails through LFC v Chelsea next week to attend the Boogaloo event.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 23 April 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

I will be daubing my copy "misery & splendor".

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 23 April 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

"Nicholas Lezard is writing a book on fun."

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 23 April 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

i'm glad he liked the book, but is it just me or is that review in the guardian almost completely unreadable? every paragraph is a trainwreck of clauses!

― geeta (geeta), Sunday, 24 April 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)

"it could hardly have failed to be as good as it is"

my my what tense tenses

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Sunday, 24 April 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

"Nicholas Lezard was the drummer for Gay Dad."

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 24 April 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)

this book is rocking my world this weekend. oddly, my copy came with some grated cheese smeared on the cover. i am assuming that someone at amazon must have been eating a cheese sandwich when they packed it up rather than this being some sort of bizare packaging gimmick.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 24 April 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)

eeeew!

― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Sunday, 24 April 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)

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