Joe Budden - The Growth

you are now listening to the growth (x2)

“Pump It Up” came out, was a hit all over the country
and so I figured all over they’d want me
yeah, the buzz was there, the feeling was timely
and Kev said that he would put the whole building behind me
yeah, the whole office daps me freely
and Mr. Cohen always seems so happy to see me
I’m treated like a new man, must’ve got a facelift
this is what I dreamed of, welcome to the matrix
BET rated me next, we comin’ up, Jersey
airtime, MTV buzzworthy
if that ain’t make things final
the song played all throughout the World Series and the NBA finals
wrap up your album Joey, it’s goin’ out now
only problem is my voice is goin’ out now
doctor said I need a surgery to fix it
and it’s somethin’ goin’ wrong, it could be permanently twisted
now that’s something I can’t afford
so steroid shots in my abs just so I can record
all that talkin’ was ruinin’ my chords and on top of it all
now Def Jam wants your boy on tour
this is important, you can’t back out
it’s good exposure and 112’s comin’ back out
I’m on the 2nd single, about to shine,
June 10th, yep it’s time
but wait, something must be wrong with the SoundScan
that’s when it all started to go down, man
am I wrong or what here
2 Fast soundtrack did great, and my song was on there
are things the way it seems
the (?) have a commercial pumpin’ it up with my face onscreen
had to change my 2nd single cuz there’s two 112/Budden’s but theirs turned into 112/Luda
Lil Jon called me for the “Get Low” remix
but Lyor was goin’ through some TVT shit
then they went and kept Joe off the Roc The Mic tour
somebody probably thought Joe would rock the mic more
left the country, did a single with J. Lo
but with my luck I knew Columbia would say no
radio hates “Fire”, nah, they won’t try it
but they love that Rah Digga song that sounds just like it
wanna keep me under, dog, I’m the underdog
and they don’t want y’all to see up under the fog
so y’all, tell they man in the hood
gold album, one single, I’d say I’m doin’ hella damn good
listen here, Def Jam, are you deaf, man?
politics aside, please don’t interject, fam
listen to my shit, now listen to the rest, damn
(?), that’s without a yes, ma’am
three hundred thou budget, I checked, fam
did that the last time and I still repped, damn
MH thank you, Pharrell thank you, Jim Jones thank you, Lil Mo thank you
sad part now is when I walk by
and I see Mr. Cohen, he can’t even say hi
but I’m a new man, I feel like I got a facelift
this is what I dreamed of, time to tackle the matrix

i sort of have sympathy, i guess. but he doesn't need to do this (maybe without that clumsy flow-- and what the fuck is up with the beat?). hit the mixtapes again, send a few more tracks back at game and whoever else wants it, and try the album thing again in six months or so.

yeah, it's pretty cheesy 'dramatic' NYC type beat, and since he's not even completely pointing fingers at people, it does come off more like he's just trying to get sympathy, which is not a good look for any rapper. I still think it's cool that he would do a track like this, though, it seems like so many dudes with slumping sales seem to kind of ignore it, in public anyway, and hope noone noticed how quickly their record fell off the charts. at least he's addressing it and making a fairly hot song out of it.

and after that silly ass beef with Game, it's not at all unlikely that he's just trying to get attention, but whatever.

"There are many fans of Joe Buddens that did not know about the release of the debut. They figured it was an entirely different person and decided not to buy the album."

this must be one of the most ridiculous things ever to appear in a press release. so they're gonna clear that confusion right up by releasing TWO otherwise identical albums with DIFFERENT NAMES on either cover? what the fucking fuck. i'm just sad that "the pop off" isn't as good as i'd hoped.

I wonder how many people missed out on Jay-Z by looking for "Jigga" or "Hova" in the stores. or people looking for "Biggie Smalls" instead of Notorious BIG. The rappers that do it to themselves by making up all sorts of ridiculous nicknames should be the ones with extra albums printed with different names.

anyone looking through a common alphabetically arranged record store would SURELY pass "Joe Budden" before "BuddenS" and see the stickers that virtually all major labels put on new albums "Featuring the hit single: ____!" and then the idiot consumer could no doubt match it up.

this is almost as bad as the time I saw someone buying the second album by Matchbox 20 thinking it was a new record by long defunct Mad Season.

this song would be better if he were rapping about a wart he had or something

yeah zach that totally explains jay-z and biggie's lackluster sales.

that was the joke m.!

al, what do you think of the game?

poor guy's got postpartum depression, but nonetheless its a shame that "fire" died off so quickly. i loved that track.

yeah, "Fire" was awesome (and Joe has balls to call out Just Blaze for giving Rah Digga a nearly identical beat, although both are awesome).

I've only heard the Game on a handful of tracks so far, and he hasn't stuck out on any of them enough to really form an opinion of him. are there any tracks you'd reccomend?

Joe Budden need a refill

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*think Major League*

dude you're weird.

You think?

You're the NEW C*lum!

man, I'm not gonna get into it with you, I've seen the other threads you've popped up on and you're becoming kind of a Gierbot/Aja presence. just stop it.

haha x-post!

Cunt sez what?

dude don't talk about Aja like that, that's mean.

eat a juicy floater, throw it back up, and eat it again

i hated fire really bad. what are the other good songs from his album?

for game, check the round here remix with dipset (i found it soulseeking for another dipset/game track that i liked better but couldn't remember the name of)-- he actually sounds like a professional rapper on it (i thought the story about him teaching himself to rap after he got shot was cool, sending out his friend to buy all the classic rap albums he had never heard and studying them). and, i guess, the tupac track from addicted to beef 2 (his freestyles and "hosting" on both addicted to beefs are atrocious). -- that's basically all i know! (i made a thread about him a couple days ago)

hey uh! just a friendly reminder: some of us can see your ip address and therefore have the ability to work backwards and source out your service provider. given that there's pretty embarrassing shit on ilm that you wouldn't want to be held accountable for in the real world where you can't hide behind a pseudonym (see: your dipshit misogynistic trolling aimed at a certain ilx member on g--ff's thread), you might want to reconsider your angsty teenage trollboy schtick.

ok? ok.

Oh, idle threats. Gee, how mature.

fuck off, you jerks.

(sorry dk! as you were)

just remember who slung the mud first.

as for the "mysogynist trolling", it was aimed at nobody in that thread whatsoever. I did make a comment to someone about "cootchy", but other than that, I just felt like making random suggestions contrary to what the mix tape asked for. aka, a joke.

i misread it as "dipset misogynistic trolling"

does dipset have been with budden now too?

i made a typo.

i wish i had more threads to post to.

I haven't heard anything about beef between them, are there rumors? the phrase "dipset misogynistic trolling" makes perfect sense. that should be the title of their next album.

that Round Here rmx was pretty cool. so he just decided to start rapping after he got shot? that's kind of funny, considering he hooked up with 50. I guess he was signed to Aftermath before getting in with the G-Unit, right? you have a good point about how they've got the token southern rapper, the token west coast rapper, etc., I'd thought about that, too. I wonder if 50 is just going to keep picking up new members and making the group bigger and bigger.

I listened to the Budden album all of 2 or 3 times, and always meant to give it another spin but haven't gotten around to it for months and months, so I'm not sure what tracks were good, if any. I liked some of the non-Blaze production, mostly by White Boy, who did "Focus". Budden is just too blah most of the time, though, he sounds kind of like a boring Method Man.

i am still trying to work out what you meant re: budden + dipset!

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i hated fire really bad. what are the other good songs from his album?
for game, check the round here remix with dipset (i found it soulseeking for another dipset/game track that i liked better but couldn't remember the name of)-- he actually sounds like a professional rapper on it (i thought the story about him teaching himself to rap after he got shot was cool, sending out his friend to buy all the classic rap albums he had never heard and studying them). and, i guess, the tupac track from addicted to beef 2 (his freestyles and "hosting" on both addicted to beefs are atrocious). -- that's basically all i know! (i made a thread about him a couple days ago)

-- hh (...), May 3rd, 2004. (tracklink)

I assumed "been"="beef" (am i correct, wiggins?)

sorry, the joke was, like, uh was a misogynistic dipset troll that hated joe budden so he came to post on this thread because dipset has beef with budden now.

ahhhhhhh ok now i see.

the Diplomats actually seem to have a surprisingly strong internet presence, it seems like every hip hop message board has a few heads that are all DIPSET BYRDGANG and pretending J.R. Writer is the next big thing and shit.

yeah, totally. no one has internet fans like dipset has! diplomatic immunity is a cult classic.

al, i really appreciate your posts on ilm.

it is a little known fact that big daddy kane got his start by repping on usenet groups

it really is. do you have it? the 2 discs are a bit much but you could easily cut it down to a solid single disc album, although I haven't really listened to it much since summer '03.

(x-post: likewise! it's much more enjoyable to talk about specific rappers/tracks in threads like this than all those racially charged clusterfuck 'state of hip hop' threads that always get hundreds of posts)

no, i never got it, for some reason. but i like a bunch of things i've heard off of it. and dipset anthem was the song playing the first time i ever kissed a girl. she was leaning into the window of my car.

that's awesome. get a chick, have her SENT UP!

i blame that joe buddha out of nottingham

btw even i wont go all out for jr writer but has anyone heard 'picture perfect'!

"Picture Perfect" is ok. have you heard that 6-minute freestyle he did over the "What Up Gangsta" beat? it's pretty impressive if for nothing else than the sheer stamina. he just keeps going and going, even if he was reading off a piece of paper it'd be pretty hard to keep up the way he does.

(hmm, in retrospect that was an obvious joke. and i hate few things more than misunderstood sarcasm. but i was in an astoundingly cranky mood and the poster wasn't a regular.)