Anyway, I bring this up partially because of an interview that Metal Sludge has just done with Ric Browde, the Ross Robinson of his day (well, not really, that was Mutt Lange, and Browde fully agrees), who produced Look What the Cat Dragged In among other things. It's a freakin' great interview through and through about all sorts of glam-era and after stuff (Browde loves Turbonegro and is bored by the Darkness, so I like him already), and he has things to say like this:
--2. You produced Poison?s ?Look What The Cat Dragged In.? What do you remember about recording that album? What comes to mind?
Recording Poison was interesting because I felt I was doing a great service to frustrated wannabe vocalists around the world by opening the singing profession up to those who were tone deaf and cannot sing , which had previously been barriers to aspiring singers. --
But hey, I like 'em, and there for once Dan and I differ. So what do YOU think of these, the legends (here in smaller than legendary size)?
http://www.wbnq.com/poison-band150.jpg
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)
at that time, they are so resolutely bubblegum that I find it hard to people don't like them...no machoness to get in the way of all the pop hooks...also, I luv CC Deville as a lead player, much more tuneful and less wanky than lots of the era, and when he was wanky it had a certain "hey ma look what I can do!" gooniness that is infectious....like he didn't take it seriously enough to really think of it as anything more than making cool noises....and CC's voice! I mean best speaking voice ever! He sounds like some cigarrette inhaling, grizzled 50s New Yawk diner waitress! (and looks like one too!)
Also, I was in Jr. High at the time and have many fond memories of all the girls in my grade dancing to them at school dances. they were really good for that.....
All this said, they got worse and worse every album, more "serious" and less fun and they thought they were like a real band or something...with some exception like "every rose" and the gooooorgeous and melancholy springsteen thang "fallen angel" (which no one seems to like as much as I do)...
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― CRW (CRW), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)
M@tt OTM.
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)
They're the Yellow#5 of Rock.
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)
Rikki Rocket I kiss U!
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)
I HAVE ERECTION!
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:43 (twenty-two years ago)
So in summation, um, Poison: no good.
Thank you for casting your votes.
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)
The Flaming Lips (back in their better days) dedicated two songs on their Oh My Gawd.... album to C.C. Deville.
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)
(making jackoff motion)
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:47 (twenty-two years ago)
?! really! Were they being funny or were they admirers?
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)
"The C.C. in the 'Ode to C.C.' songs is the guy in the band Poison..?? I still think he's great!..." Wayne
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)
Don't do crack, it's a ghetto drug
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)
By the way, in order to be completely unironic from now on, you might want to not call somebody unintelligible in a sentence where you use incorrect grammar: IT'S 'YOU'RE', YOU FUCKTARD!
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:06 (twenty-two years ago)
uh, did it ever occur to you that db and myself may have actually have heard of the NY Dolls and listened to them and be quite aware of their influence on the look of glam rock and might just actually want to talk about Poison without some toolbox bothering us? Fucking find a NY Dolls thread if you want to talk about them....or fuck there's prob. even five threads on solo David Johansen by now if that's yr bag...
god, you have this way of making these completely banal and cliched observations and then acting like you're the first person on earth that's ever said it....
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)
Assume uh = x = a troll. Act accordingly.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)
You, like the other peons on this board, are really good at drawing inferences that aren't there and making stupid assumptions. But keep on, you're amusing me. :)
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)
x-post
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)
Seriously, uh, get off the crack.
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)
It's easy to categorize and thus distance yourself from something, right? Well, carry on then, if your ignorance makes you feel better.
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)
you idiot.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)
I mentioned the New York Dolls as an aside, since they did the whole sleaze-drag thing earlier than Poison did the whole OMG WE'RE WOMEN thing. But since you all take everything entirely too seriously here, I'll figure you missed that too.
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)
fyi, this is the only nick I've used in the last four days other than "censored" to my knowledge.
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:17 (twenty-two years ago)
HI DERE
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)
Anyway, Let Us Now Praise Famous Rocketts:
http://www.musicmayhem.com/rikki9.jpg
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)
Poison's haters might enjoy seeing Bret Michaels get flattened by some scenery at the Tony Awards:
http://www.queerty.com/the-tony-awards-talking-point-bret-michaels-falls-on-his-ass-20090607/
― nabisco, Monday, 8 June 2009 20:31 (seventeen years ago)
the close-up view is better IMOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JocPcYBCN18&annotation_id=annotation_823724&feature=iv
― Jesus Christ, Attorney at Law (res), Monday, 8 June 2009 21:42 (seventeen years ago)
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
― 1899 Horsey Horseless (HI DERE), Monday, 8 June 2009 21:46 (seventeen years ago)
gotta love that fade
― Jesus Christ, Attorney at Law (res), Monday, 8 June 2009 21:48 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1613466/20090608/bret_michaels.jhtml
― 1899 Horsey Horseless (HI DERE), Monday, 8 June 2009 21:49 (seventeen years ago)
still love that just blaze remix
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Monday, 8 June 2009 21:50 (seventeen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM43vA3BjQw
― 1899 Horsey Horseless (HI DERE), Monday, 8 June 2009 21:51 (seventeen years ago)
It's just really entertaining the way he's like, swaggering back while we all watch this thing descending straight onto his head
(I feel for the guy with his broken nose and all, but I hope he'd agree that if you are going to break a nose in a mishap like this, it might as well be as hilarious as possible for everyone else's enjoyment)
― nabisco, Monday, 8 June 2009 22:02 (seventeen years ago)
Also it should happen at the Tonys. The lead singer of Poison should get injured at the Tonys
lolz followed by Stockard Channing?!?
Well DONE
― Kitchen Paper Towel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 June 2009 22:05 (seventeen years ago)
it is quite nearly a perfect storm of hilariousness
― nabisco, Monday, 8 June 2009 22:14 (seventeen years ago)
also it is a warning to fans of hair-metal: you think Broadway is lame? yeah well those people know how to HIT THEIR MARKS
― nabisco, Monday, 8 June 2009 22:15 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20363506,00.html?hpt=T2
― the first circus ringleader in space (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 April 2010 21:53 (sixteen years ago)
^^brain hemorrhage btw
Poison decreases sperm count.They're the Yellow#5 of Rock.
― uh (eetface), Wednesday, May 5, 2004 8:29 PM
???????
― Bogart Puff 'n Stuff (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 24 April 2010 00:20 (sixteen years ago)
LOS ANGELES – Bret Michaels is in critical condition suffering from a brain hemorrhage, his publicist said Friday. Joann Mignano confirmed a report on People magazine's website Friday that said the former Poison frontman was rushed to intensive care late Thursday after a severe headache. The report said doctors discovered bleeding at the base of his brain stem.
Mignano said tests are being conducted and that no further information was available.
The 47-year-old reality TV star had an emergency appendectomy last week after complaining of stomach pains. He said on his website that though the surgery "has taken its toll," doctors expected him to make a full recovery.
Michaels starred on the VH1 dating show "Rock of Love" and is a contestant on Donald Trump's NBC reality show, "The Celebrity Apprentice."
Trump said in a statement Friday that he was "deeply saddened" to hear of Michaels' condition.
"He's a great competitor and champion, and I hope he will be fine," Trump said.
― velko, Saturday, 24 April 2010 00:24 (sixteen years ago)
are any celebrities safe?
― Bogart Puff 'n Stuff (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 24 April 2010 00:26 (sixteen years ago)
"The 47-year-old reality TV star" i know Poison are pretty forgettable but c'mon now, give him some respect while he goes through this.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 24 April 2010 03:24 (sixteen years ago)
Livin' my life, sin after sin...oops.
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/936808_3190062848406_226890525_n.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 May 2013 21:46 (thirteen years ago)
Mah eyes!
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 16 May 2013 21:50 (thirteen years ago)
Not a bad chorus in search of better trash.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 April 2018 02:22 (eight years ago)
Talk Dirty To Me is pretty decent but man this is a terrible band. Bret Michaels is a corny enough frontman to make Mark Slaughter look like Marc Bolan.
― omar little, Monday, 30 April 2018 02:30 (eight years ago)
open up and say arse
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Monday, 30 April 2018 16:54 (eight years ago)
Oh my god look what the feral cat that lives in the backwoods where Mandy was a documentary dragged in.
This is what C.C. Deville from Poison looks like now?! He looks like he's in a band I would possibly go see?? pic.twitter.com/zTTsH8iPtw— Nacho Man Sandy Cabbage (@TreeBeerd) June 6, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2022 14:19 (four years ago)
make sure to tape the setlist to his forehead and put a mirror in front of him
― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 June 2022 14:30 (four years ago)
Maybe him, Kip Winger, Jeff Pilson and Bobby Blotzer are starting a new Cascadian black metal project.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 June 2022 15:04 (four years ago)
hey Rikki Rockett!
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/rikki-rockett-homophobic-rock/?fbclid=IwAR2f8kfB_t3LiqQ8hwIGEfy7JIDSQ7xDVE8Yj3A9a0yJdHjpXs4sdQNZNfY
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 September 2023 16:40 (two years ago)
kinda cool to see from someone who theoretically has a lot more fear of pushback from his audience than most
“What we were doing was a social, cultural movement,” Rockett recalled. “It really set America and the world on fire in a lot of ways”Um
― calstars, Friday, 29 September 2023 16:42 (two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AelpbAegA-4Just rediscovered Fallen Angel, a song I haven't thought about since the late 80s. The video makes it even better with the expression on dude's face after our protagonist kicks him in the nuts.
― peace, man, Saturday, 1 August 2026 18:54 (six days ago)
What a pretty girl.
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 August 2026 18:55 (six days ago)
3:22 for the dick kick, 3:28 for the aftermath
― peace, man, Saturday, 1 August 2026 18:55 (six days ago)
These poor fallen angels, moving to California and ending up in Poison videos.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 August 2026 21:51 (six days ago)
Fallen Angel video is v funny. every time she steps of the titular bus out into the titular city street I think of cute hayseed Axl stepping off the bus in the Welcome to the Jungle video
Lotta stepping off busses in 80’s music videos
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 August 2026 23:25 (six days ago)
In the video, a young blonde (portrayed by model Susie Hatton, then Michaels' girlfriend) tells her family, at dinner, that she is leaving for California at the end of the week
lol I'm imaging the pestering Bret got from Susie about getting her into one of their promos
― mime is money (bastard) (Matt #2), Saturday, 1 August 2026 23:59 (six days ago)
idk I pictured the opposite, like he is the one bringing her everywhere & putting her in everything so that the whole world knows he landed a megababe
He seems more that guy imo
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 August 2026 00:19 (five days ago)
I know I've mentioned this before, but I interviewed Michaels once many years ago. Genuinely nice, down-to-earth dude, still got a lot of rural Pennsylvania in him. (Being a diabetic helped him keep his head together because when you've got it the way he has it, anything beyond the occasional beer will fuck your shit up for real.)
Counterexample: Stephen Pearcy. Funny as hell, but clearly not a nice guy at all.
― wipes chooser (unperson), Sunday, 2 August 2026 00:37 (five days ago)
That’s what I mean! He’s small town enough to show off a girlfriend; he’s not bigtiming & making girlfriends beg to be in his videos
I watched many seasons of Rock of Love, I too know this man ;)
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 August 2026 01:20 (five days ago)
veg otm. alfred otm too, what a gorgeous woman. video is extremely charming. poison were fitted out. love that pink guitar.
― shaking babies (map), Sunday, 2 August 2026 02:30 (five days ago)
At the opposite end of the spectrum & literally end of the line for them chartwise is this unhinged (?) / of its time (?) video for Stand (1991)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3hmgkPYUuk
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 August 2026 02:34 (five days ago)
The video makes it even better with the expression on dude's face after our protagonist kicks him in the nuts.
― peace, man, Saturday, August 1, 2026 2:54 PM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
The creep in the video was played by Anthony James—the iconic grinning chauffeur from Burnt Offerings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rECWgLmhUc4
― every person shall be spared in whose home a jazz band is in f (President Keyes), Sunday, 2 August 2026 03:58 (five days ago)
Began and ended his career in Oscar Best Picture winners, In the Heat of the Night (1967) and Unforgiven (1992). Can't be many actors that can be on that list.
― bulb after bulb, Sunday, 2 August 2026 04:27 (five days ago)
He was also in the first western Eastwood directed, "High Plains Drifter," but I mostly know him from one of the Naked Gun movies. Work is work, but it must be tough to have Resting Creep Face. Jackie Earle Haley knows.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 August 2026 11:51 (five days ago)
I feel Tom Werman has softened over the years on the question of whether Poison could play at all, but this interview still indicates the state of play with all the money floating around for the guys who fit the suit back then
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 2 August 2026 12:00 (five days ago)
god I had completely memory-holed that video. which i now remember having watched many, many times. Bret Michaels' red leather.. gauntlets? is that the word? And the ostensibly feminist cautionary story doesn't neglect to show us a few cheesecake shots in the studio. Which of course 13-year-old me was, er, extremely there for. Sexist degradation: One woman's sizzling hot tale!
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 2 August 2026 12:10 (five days ago)
Oof:
You produced the band’s seismic Open Up and Say…Ahh! record, which I believe was the first and only album that you recorded digitally. What prompted that decision?Tom: Because I knew, having seen the band and rehearsed the band, that we would be doing a lot of punching in.
Tom: Because I knew, having seen the band and rehearsed the band, that we would be doing a lot of punching in.
Good interview. That's not the first time I've heard stories of insecure hard rock drummers of the '80s calling in Bun E. for help. Iirc I read an interview with Cinderella's drummer in Modern Drummer around the era where he said even when the band was riding high he was taking drum lessons from Bun E.
Wild to hear that Jay Graydon played on "I Want You to Want Me," never thought about it before!
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 August 2026 12:12 (five days ago)
there's harsher interviews about poison out there from a producer or a mixer, or maybe a label guy. like, there's people who say "none of those guys could play at all"
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 2 August 2026 14:14 (five days ago)
But they still had to tour, right? Like, here's a video of them from 1988:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsQ32e1Q2C4
They sound ... fine? About as well as I would expect a band like Poison to sound, or need to sound, which is really the crux of it: the best they're ever going to sound is like Poison.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 August 2026 16:20 (five days ago)
It’s usually CC that gets the most “couldn’t play” laid at his feet
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 August 2026 16:37 (five days ago)
That producer blames it on drugs, though. It's kind of like saying the Replacements couldn't play. They definitely could, just not after drinking a million beers, etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 August 2026 17:18 (five days ago)