"the raps they used to have done by anonymous guys on big dance hits in the early 90s"

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David Allen invoked this on the recent Linkin Park thread as a negative, artiste considered it a positive, and I agree with artiste. Let us celebrate anonymous rappers on big dance hits early-90s style, especially if they did not release anything under their own name ever.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

A;ways wondered what was up with that dude from Michael Jackson's "Black or White."

Chris O., Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Or the random phantom dudes that got work from Salt N Pepa.

Chris O., Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO

Bumfluff, Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i love those guys!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Did "Rythm is a Dancer" have a rap in it?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Whatever happened to that Barnes guy who rapped on "World in Motion"? :)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

So that was Geddy Lee on "Roll the Bones," right? Or was that some other geek?

Chris O., Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

please please repeat once more the rap about Dreams by that band 24/7.

dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

AGENTS OF MU-MU!

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Just who WAS MC Skat Kat?

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

That's ANCIENTS of Mu-Mu, dammit.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"You gotta keep the faith and run away!"

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I always picture an ultra-suave dude striding in from stage left, left-right-left-right, huge chain bobbing in time, fluffing his collar and casting coy glances from side to side as he makes his entrance... Whatever happened to rhyming over fast house? It sets a completely different mood.

Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Sunday, 25 July 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Did "Rythm is a Dancer" have a rap in it?

You bet. It was as serious as cancer.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 25 July 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

The dude on "Mr. Vain" was the best. Partly because "Mr. Vain" was the best.

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Sunday, 25 July 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

That's ANCIENTS of Mu-Mu, dammit.

haha, woops! my friend Nat in elementary school used to shout "AGENTS OF MOO JUICE!"

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

You bet. It was as serious as cancer.

i think Rakim has done a few uncredited guests before..

chris andrews (fraew), Sunday, 25 July 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

MC Turbo was the rapper in Snap! no?

dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

MC Turbo G, yes. If I remember correctly he released a solo LP, but he must've been the only Europop rapper to do so. I agree with Mike O. that Culture Beat had the best rapper, can't recall his name.

As for other Europop acts with rapping, there's too many to mention: Mc Sar and the Real McCoy, Pandora, DJ Bobo, Leila K, Cappella, Scatman John... I've forgotten the names of most of the acts, but there were MANY! You Britons and Americans didn't probably witness the full force of Europop, though, not the way continental Europeans and Scandinavians did.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

(crap, x-post)

that's Turbo B!

this is some of my favourite stuff ever, & the vocal version of T99's "Anasthasia" is like the best thing ever.

etc, Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, these acts (and the rappers) were mainly from Germany or the Netherlands or Belgium or Sweden. In most cases the rapper still had to be black, even if the singer was white, so many of the rappers were probably first or second generation immigrants.

I remember another name: Def Dames Dope! That one had two white women from Holland rapping and singing in a false Jamaican accent. Much fun.

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Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

But DJ Bobo was still best! Did he have any success outside continental Europe?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

krs-one!

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

That was the guy on the anonymous big dance hit, you mean. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

chuck d!

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

krs-one on 'radio song' and chuck d on 'kool thing' are EASILY the two weakest verses on this thread

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

if you can call the chuck d thing a verse, it sounds like he's talking in his sleep, like one of those scenes in movies where the hero dreams he's in the physical act of love but really it's just his dog licking his feet (with sexy results).

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

if you can call the chuck d thing a verse

That's not a verse, that's a damp fart. Showing up for the video must have been the easiest day's work he's ever had.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

no way dude - air america!

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a memory which I've happily never possessed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"I agree with Mike O. that Culture Beat had the best rapper, can't recall his name."

Jay Supreme was the rapper in Culture Beat. The singer's name was Tania Evans, if memory serves.

"As for other Europop acts with rapping, there's too many to mention: Mc Sar and the Real McCoy, Pandora, DJ Bobo, Leila K, Cappella, Scatman John... I've forgotten the names of most of the acts, but there were MANY! You Britons and Americans didn't probably witness the full force of Europop, though, not the way continental Europeans and Scandinavians did."

It's funny - during that era, Europop (we just called it "Euro")music was all over the radio here in Toronto, but made very little impact on the rest of Canada. I was in my "I go to raves every weekend and am thus too cool to like this stuff" phase back then, but I secretly loved Culture Beat and the like.

I visited Germany last year and was suprised to find out that DJ Bobo was still recording hit singles. Sadly, he sings rather than raps now - his Swedish-science-teacher-does-Run-DMC-accent was quite amusing to me, and his singing voice is a little bland.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Sunday, 25 July 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I remember hearing a new song of his recently. It was called "Chihuahua", I think, and it had a nice, Macarena sort of a feel to it.

What was your favourite one of DJ Bobo's nineties hits? "Somebody Dance With Me" was obviously the biggest one, but I always liked "Everybody" more. The album version was better than the single version, though.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 25 July 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, I had no idea we Torontonians were the onlyl people in Canada being subjected to Euro music on such a regular basis. The rave scene was making a comeback in the city around that time, which would partly explain the interest.
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Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 25 July 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Just who WAS MC Skat Kat?
-- CeCe Peniston (anthonymicci...), July 25th, 2004.

You're implying he wasn't real?

DAMN YOU PAULA ABDUL WHY HAVE YOU DECEIVED US!?!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 25 July 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

they really should do a "Where Are They Now?" about him

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://www.hagencartoons.com/cartoon340.gif

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I am so confused as to what works and what doesn't anymore on the boards.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

If the pic's too big, it won't show.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 25 July 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I can see MC Skat Cat stumbling drunkenly into a taping of American Idol: "YO, PAULA, REMEMBER ME?" :pulls out revolver:

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 25 July 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the guy that did the Black and White rap was just Michael's producer or something. :( It'd be better if it was really Macaulay Culkin doing that voice.

Dan I., Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Turbo B was from my hometown, McKeesport, PA. He was kind of a jagoff (if I may revert to the local parlance). Came back to the local Eat 'n Park after "The Power" took off and wouldn't tip anyone.

Not that this adds to the thread at all. So I'll trot out Bingoboys, "Show Me How to Dance."

Joseph McCombs, Monday, 26 July 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

That was Princessa on the Bingo Boys, wasn't it?

Best female anonymous guy: she who rapped on Kylie's "Shocked".

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 26 July 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Q-Tip!

Symplistic (shmuel), Monday, 26 July 2004 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

AGENTS OF MU-MU!

The two main anonymous rappers on KLF hits were MC Bello B (What Time Is Love? and America: What Time Is Love), who was in a group called Outlaw Posse that released an album with the wonderful title My Afro's On Fire; and Ricardo Da Force (3AM Eternal, Last Train To Trancentral, Justifed & Ancient), who went on to be the anonymous rapper on N-Trance's Europop hits incl. Stayin' Alive.

More legitimately anonymous is Chike, the rather more fluid-sounding guy who rapped alongside King Boy D (ie Bill Drummond) on the early JAMs records. Who he?

kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 26 July 2004 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

the rapper for C&C msuci factory, sych a wonderfully constapated and Ice T like style.

lukey (Lukey G), Monday, 26 July 2004 08:28 (twenty-one years ago)

fishin' in the rivers
fishin' in the rivers
fishin' in the rivers of LIFE

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 26 July 2004 08:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The KLF had some incredible rapping - 3am Eternal has one of the best raps ever!

Do you think it was PC to have a cartoon cat extolling the virtues of smoking cigarettes on hit singles?

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 26 July 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Ricardo Da Force was a regular fixture of KLF singles tho (not him on 'What Time Is Love' tho), then N-Trance

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 26 July 2004 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Also - do you think it was PC that Paula Abdul was ready and willing to "get together" with a cartoon cat... who liked to smoke and shout? I wouldn't have thought she'd be the type, but then opposites do attract - after all, she makes the bed and he steals the covers.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 26 July 2004 09:07 (twenty-one years ago)

RFI: DJ Mink's 'Hey Can U Relate?' -- on Warp, c 1990. Was this a US import or what? And who was the rapper?

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 26 July 2004 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

MC Skat Kat revealed.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 July 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought Skatkat was really MC Hammer for some reason - after misreading something about it in Smash Hits probably

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 26 July 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The video on that site for "Skat Kat Strut" is priceless.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 July 2004 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

"Come on, come on, feel the vibration!"

Was that Marky Mark or an anonymous rapper?

avery schreiber, Monday, 26 July 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

stevem - i read that smash hits article! i thought i was the only one! this was before mc hammer did u can't touch this and they called him mc skathammer.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 26 July 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I always thought MC Skat Kat was Arsenio Hall. Didn't he and Abdul date? Why do I always end up in discussions about MC Skat Kat?!

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Monday, 26 July 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Anybody who ever rapped on a Prince record to thread, most notably the justifiably shadowy "Tony M" who played such a large part in making "Jughead" whatever it was.

briania (briania), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

jump jump to the rhythm jump jump to the rhythm jump

sexyDancer, Monday, 26 July 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

RFI: DJ Mink's 'Hey Can U Relate?' -- on Warp, c 1990. Was this a US import or what? And who was the rapper?

I always wondered about that one too.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 26 July 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I am actually the rapper on all of these records. And now you know.

Biz Markie, Monday, 26 July 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Freedom Williams gonna make you sweat till you bleed

It's your world and I'm just a squirrel
Trying to get a nut to move your butt to the dance floor

superultramega (superultramarinated), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

hey biz, i havent seen you in my record store where you shop all the time in a few weeks. where have you been? remember that one time when you wore pants that were really low, and then you bent over the rap section for like 2 hours? that was awesome! i could see multiple inches of crack!

seriously, though. youre a talented artist and a good rapper. no hard feelings about the pants.

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Honestly it has been kind of tough lately. VH1 classics has been caning the shit out of my video for "Just A Friend" and I don't see a dime. I have taken to tying balloon animals at house parties in Laurel, MD for taco money. If they have an opening at the shop I could probably use the work, thank you, man.

Biz, Monday, 26 July 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Was there actually some half-assed white dude rhymes in [some band with a three letter name]'s "Unbelievable", or am I having one of those confusing-my-dreams-for-memories moments again?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

EMF. And there sorta was, I guess.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh that was the singer tho, and it's barely rapping

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Bass-O-Matic 'Fascinating Rhythm' is a good one. 'Gimme somma da bassline on your stereo, gimme a funky riddim and we're ready to go well this is somethin for the heart an'a somethin for the soul, it's Bass-O-Matic in the midnight hour' or something

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

of course now i have to mention MC MIKEE FREEDOM

and that bloke from Maxx

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

and the guy from Culturebeat (call me raider call me wrong)

and the guy from Real McCoy

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

They might've come late to the party, but I feel obliged to give props to the Bomfunk MCs.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Let he who is without sin....

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

All I really remember clearly about that song is the pause -> "you're unbelievable" -> boom/"OH!".

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the Anal Cunt version better.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Now that you've mentioned Bass-O-Matic, "Science & Melody" has some pretty good (really) rapping by a duo called Sound of Shabazz(?). Later on, one of them had another good verse on William Orbit's "Strange Cargo III", but that's all I know about them. Whatever happened to Sound of Shabazz?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 26 July 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The Mad Stuntman! Or was he more of a "toaster"?

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 26 July 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

RFI: DJ Mink's 'Hey Can U Relate?' -- on Warp, c 1990. Was this a US import or what? And who was the rapper?

Kid Carruthers was the rapper - they were from Sheffield.

hifi sadist, Monday, 26 July 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)


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