The Rolling Stones' "Too Much Blood" - is this the best thing they ever did?

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I am dead serious about this. Has anybody else seen the video? Holy shit.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Well it's GOOD, and pretty much no-one's that likely to hear it w/out impassioned testimonial, sure. It's not the best thing they did tho, no.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:09 (twenty years ago)

I haven't seen that video but I'm a fan of the video and song for "She Was Hot." I keep debating whether to spend the bucks and investigate Undercover.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Paint it Black is always going to be the best thing they did.

Lance Lazer, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:32 (twenty years ago)

I vote for either "Stray Cat Blues" or "Jigsaw Puzzle"

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago)

when does this date to?

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago)

'84?

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:41 (twenty years ago)

Nope '83

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago)

I'd go with "Monkey Man" or "Live with me".

darin, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:44 (twenty years ago)

The Stones were going for utterly baroque video promotion circa Undercover. The vids for Too Much Blood & Undercover of the Night were both amazing things to see in the early MTV days.

briania (briania), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:51 (twenty years ago)

I just got Undercover and Some Girls last week and so far I must say "Too Much Blood" is the standout. I think I might just have a weakness for that production style and the whole british-accent-spoken-word-verse thing (cf. Capt. Sensible's "Wot" being the best song ever)

Undercover as a whole really kind of trounces Some Girls if you ask me. I want to see the video for "Under Cover of the Night!"

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Lots of shootings and Mick with a Latin porn star mustache, you can't go wrong.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Tom, you gotta see "She Was Hot." It involves this old Broadway redhead whose name I can't remember making guys have metaphorical jean creams. Charlie throws his sticks and rolls his eyes, Keith's thermometer explodes, a muscleman's bicep explodes, a dam bursts, etc, etc, sweet etc

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Ron Wood's guitar neck goes limp

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago)

I vote "Tumbling Dice" or "She Said Yeah."

Burr (Burr), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago)

That was Anita Morris in the "She Was Hot" video. Back in her day, she was the shit. Died of cancer a few years ago.

phil dennison, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:02 (twenty years ago)

video for 'too much blood' is astonishing. good song too.

(Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago)

Too Much Blood

She Was Hot

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Undercover Of The Night

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:13 (twenty years ago)

best thing Arthur Baker ever did?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Arthur Baker produced it? I noticed on slsk, there's a separate remix by him...

pher (pher), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:26 (twenty years ago)

not sure if he worked on the original, but his remix was quite big in the club scene. I first heard it on a DJ Harvey radio show a few years ago. I wouldn't be suprised if he was involved with the LP version, as Baker did some other tracks that sounded like that at the time, like his version/mixes of Bruce Springsteen's Cover Me. More organic then the sound that made him famous.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:29 (twenty years ago)

>I noticed on slsk, there's a separate remix by him...

I remember the 12" single for this song contained 30 minutes of music over three mixes. Completely dubbed out to infinity.

(Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:36 (twenty years ago)

this is what I hate about posting about certain records to ILM, I simply do not have the $tu££ for these adventures. That soundds brilliant though.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:44 (twenty years ago)

I hear the kids are all using this crazy thing called the Internet these days for their musical masturbation purposes.

Otis Wheeler (Otis Wheeler), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 05:09 (twenty years ago)

i was hoping this was a new song - i'd LOVE it if the Stones actually put out something unexpectedly great again, as astronomically unlikely as it seems.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 07:36 (twenty years ago)

"Too Much Blood" is fucking perfect, it's true. Great song. Great video.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 22:05 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, while my fave Stones track will always be "Monkey Man", this really is a great little sleeper of a hit. C'mon! Those horns? That great chiming guitar (I'd even go out on a very shakey limb and suggest that the guitars in question wouldn't sound out of place on Fire Dances by Killing Joke). Mick's empassioned hooting and hollering. "MUCH TOO MUCH TOO MUCH!" And the spoken word bits are the fuckin' best. "By chance a taxi driver notices him...BURRYING THE BONES!" Are you kidding? When I was in Paris last October, I almost went on a pilgrimage to Bois de Boulogne in homage to this great song (yes, I'm that pathetic).

http://www.magiccity.ne.jp/~berocity/stones/museum/bero/video/clip/stones_1980/gif/11a_03.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 22:43 (twenty years ago)

'Well I'm telling you they never got it right / Until they put out Undercover of the Night'

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 29 July 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago)

weird. i thought the video for "She Was Hot" was puerile garbage.
I do love some of the other songs mentioned here and plenty of others,.. "Monkey Man", "Jigsaw Puzzle", "Live With Me", "All Sold Out", "We Love You", .. aprox. half of Exile on Mainstreet.

However, by '77-'85 I remember thinking about Undercover and Emotional Rescue and imagining these were dire albums, based on the dire title singles, and that goes triple for "She Was Hot", "Waiting for a Friend", "Start Me Up". Sucking in the Seventies always seemed an apt compilation title from times that seem like the beginning of the endless end of the Rolling Stones.

OK the video for "Undercover" was interesting, so i'm keen to see this other one (as long as it's _nothing_ _like_ "She Was Hot" or anything like KJs "Love Like Blood" for that matter).

george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 29 July 2004 01:06 (twenty years ago)

"Tattoo You" doesn't even need the sheen of 80s production to be a great record, it just is. Makes it kinda less interesting, I guess.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 29 July 2004 01:10 (twenty years ago)

if somebody bootlegged the vox from this song with a Boards Of Canada track it would cause involuntary responses all over the globe

TOMBOT, Thursday, 29 July 2004 02:22 (twenty years ago)

i don't think i've ever heard this song.

alex there are other good reasons to visit the bois de boulogne no?

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 29 July 2004 02:28 (twenty years ago)

Of course there are......but they're not my reasons.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 29 July 2004 02:29 (twenty years ago)

i saw a music video being shot on the bridge near the notre dame, i think it was... oh crap it was some "new rock" band.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 29 July 2004 02:31 (twenty years ago)

The Stranglers' video for "La Follie" was tastefully shot in Paris (around Sacre Coeur).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 29 July 2004 02:38 (twenty years ago)

i think that the TOMBOT would also love "emotional rescue," esp. when mick trots out that ridiculously silly pseudo-arabic accent at the end ("you weeell be mine, you weeell be mine, you weell be MINE ALL MINE!).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 29 July 2004 06:37 (twenty years ago)

"There's a hole where yer nose used to be!"

dave q, Thursday, 29 July 2004 06:49 (twenty years ago)

i literally have *no idea* what this song is.

piscesboy, Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago)

It's on this record...

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000000W68.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 29 July 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Can we sort of bring this thread back around to the Arthur Baker remix - is it just my imagination or is this one of the best remixes of all time (easily top ten for me)?

Meanwhile back in the jungle...

Jedmond (Jedmond), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Total agreement this is their best song & my favorite album of theirs!!!!!!!! Right above "emotional rescue," "miss you", "heartbreaker", "sympathy", "undercover of the night" and then all the rest.

Queen Electric Butt Prober BZZT!! BZZZZZT!! (Queen Electric Butt Prober BZZ), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago)

12" single cover:

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago)

http://www.stones.at/stones/vinyl/12/toomuch.jpg

(Jon L), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
I WANNA DANCE I WANNA SING I WANNA BUST UP EVERYTHING

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

no

gear (gear), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently the only Stone involved on this track is Mick. That's Sly & Robbie on drums and bass, and some dude who was Andy Summers' guitar roadie cuz getting Keith to sound like Andy Summers was Mick's obsession at the moment. Still classic.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

YOU EVER SEE THE "TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE"? 'ORRIBLE, WASN'T IT?!?

the video

Eisbaer, Sunday, 3 August 2008 17:07 (sixteen years ago)

The Arthur Baker remix is indeed amazing: 12 minutes of hysteria.

I'll be happy to send it.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 3 August 2008 17:09 (sixteen years ago)

Here's the three versions (album, dance, dub):

http://burningtheground-djpault.blogspot.com/search/label/The%20Rolling%20Stones

I'm after the dub version of Undercover of the Night if anyone has it.

Raw Patrick, Sunday, 3 August 2008 18:19 (sixteen years ago)

This song rules, but so does the single cover (from the video)
http://www.securecrazydiamond.com/dizq/52838.jpg

Euler, Sunday, 3 August 2008 18:21 (sixteen years ago)

how the hell can anyone consider this in the upper echelon of the stones catalog?!

res, Sunday, 3 August 2008 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

I'm very comfortable with this residing in the middle echelon, thanks.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 3 August 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago)

Coz their 60s stuff is mainly a snooze.

Raw Patrick, Monday, 4 August 2008 10:59 (sixteen years ago)

...

res, Monday, 4 August 2008 15:29 (sixteen years ago)

i would definitely say this single/ undercover was the last thing they did that excites me in any way.

will, Monday, 4 August 2008 15:32 (sixteen years ago)

I really love "One Hit (To the Body)" but I'm alone.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 August 2008 15:37 (sixteen years ago)

i liked highwire... a little...

stevie, Monday, 4 August 2008 15:38 (sixteen years ago)

aww c'mon "One Hit (To The Body)" is widely loved around here, isn't it? I think it's great too.

Euler, Monday, 4 August 2008 15:41 (sixteen years ago)

I didn't want to start another pro-Dirty Work thread.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 August 2008 15:43 (sixteen years ago)

i liked highwire... a little...

so did Greil Marcus!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 August 2008 15:43 (sixteen years ago)

keith's guitar sounds a lot like johnny marr in parts of this song.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 15:34 (sixteen years ago)

It may not even be Keith, or if he is, he's mixed pretty low.

Roadie Jim Barber plays the main guitar line (Mick gets credit too). Apparently Mick told him to "play like Andy Summer."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 15:42 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

i wanna dance, i wanna sing, i wanna bust up everything

dunno why this song is in my mind today but it is ...

Carmine Dirtnap from North Arlington (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 23:23 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

'orrible, wadn't it?

otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 November 2010 02:09 (fourteen years ago)

soto should i break down and get undercover (note: i have every album thru tattoo you except it's only rock n roll)(also: should i break down and get it's only rock n roll?)

balls, Thursday, 11 November 2010 02:56 (fourteen years ago)

If you're a completist, by all means, but it's not essential. Most of the songs are needlessly explicit and gross; the trebly arrangement underscores every nasty lyric. But don't let that sound like an endorsement: besides "She Was Hot," the songs just ain't very funny.

You're better off with Dirty Work, where the songs and arrangements are odd and insistent in more complex ways.

otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 November 2010 03:14 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i've had several stones freaks thru the years try to sell me on dirty work (which i did own once thx to columbia house), but as great as 'one hit to the body' is i haven't bit.

balls, Thursday, 11 November 2010 03:26 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

the scene from basket case that appears at the beginning of the "too much blood" video ... enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok7fOwdk2gc

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Friday, 16 March 2012 03:33 (thirteen years ago)

nine years pass...

Today I agree. Best RS song.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 September 2021 05:44 (three years ago)

ooh no don't saw off me arm

nashwan, Thursday, 2 September 2021 10:10 (three years ago)

LMAO

birdistheword, Thursday, 2 September 2021 14:56 (three years ago)

It may not be—OK, it certainly is not— the best thing they done, but it's fucking excellent, there can be no question that what distinguishes Undercover is that its the Stones record that was conceived and released as the MTV/video era had matured…and so Jagger got Julien temple to make a bunch of full on plotline videos, after TY and SG's videos are mostly ""shoot the band playing and giving loads of attitude"…

The three singles from this record are amongst my favorite Stones songs ("She was hot" is my fave of 'em all), since its the first record by that band that came out since I had been engaged with music… TY, despite being assembled outta outtakes, was followed by the 81 tour which was the first all-points penetrative tour of the 80s and absolutely dominated mass appeal "rock" culture. But I was 10 in 81 and couldn't fully engage with music, couldn't discover things on my own…

apparent Keith really had nothing to do with this tune, being that its a great example of MJ's predilection to push forward and incorporate emerging forms and a great example of KR's phlegmy contempt for any development past, what, Peter Tosh? To me, MJ's desire to keep the band current is laudable, if occasionally needy…

veronica moser, Thursday, 2 September 2021 16:38 (three years ago)

So...what was the Stones' red with the kids in 1983? My reading is that Tattoo You was the last time (given its sales) the Stones mattered as a part of youth culture -- what Rob Sheffield called their Mall Rat Years, i.e. 1978-1982.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 September 2021 16:40 (three years ago)

Red = reputation

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 September 2021 16:41 (three years ago)

it's also hard to find the "she was hot" video… this may have to do with the fact that to put it mildly it is not in tune with contemporary mores and maybe the Stones team has scrubbed it?

veronica moser, Thursday, 2 September 2021 16:41 (three years ago)

unless you were a very very cool kid with access to underground culture, the Rolling Stones were still the biggest band in the world, still somewhat scary, in no way were they part of anybody's parents cultures… those videos were right up there in terms of MTV prominence with Thriller, the Synchronicity and Purple Rain vids etc…and were in a significant sense scarier ("Too Much Blood") dirtier "She was hot") and more topical ("Undercover of the night"); which is to say that I think Undercover still mattered to youth culture, not as much as TY, but still significant…

veronica moser, Thursday, 2 September 2021 16:49 (three years ago)

I remember the "Undercover" video playing on the countdown shows with all the other contemporary pop; same with the Dirty Work videos, although they were less popular.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 2 September 2021 16:50 (three years ago)

I ask because "Undercover of the Night" barely scraped the top ten and the album was their first since 1970 not to hit #1

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 September 2021 17:01 (three years ago)

It may not be—OK, it certainly is not— the best thing they done, but it's fucking excellent, there can be no question that what distinguishes Undercover is that its the Stones record that was conceived and released as the MTV/video era had matured…and so Jagger got Julien temple to make a bunch of full on plotline videos, after TY and SG's videos are mostly ""shoot the band playing and giving loads of attitude"…The three singles from this record are amongst my favorite Stones songs ("She was hot" is my fave of 'em all)

Up to that point, it might've been their worst album, but there's four commendable tracks that I enjoy. I'm not sure if they're the same four singles - I thought there were only three singles from that album, and they do make up three of the four I had in mind: "Undercover," "She Was Hot," "Too Much Blood" and "It Must Be Hell."

apparent Keith really had nothing to do with this tune, being that its a great example of MJ's predilection to push forward and incorporate emerging forms and a great example of KR's phlegmy contempt for any development past, what, Peter Tosh? To me, MJ's desire to keep the band current is laudable, if occasionally needy…

I agree with this. Some Girls is brilliant because of this. After that, it was hit-or-miss, but I rather they take risks than do something boring and corporate like most of Steel Wheels (which to be fair had "Continental Drift" - not a great track, but a commendable try).

birdistheword, Thursday, 2 September 2021 17:09 (three years ago)

Wait, somehow I read "three" as "four." NM!

birdistheword, Thursday, 2 September 2021 17:10 (three years ago)

The "She was Hot" video got discussed recently here on the What Can't You Find On The Internet? thread.

visiting, Thursday, 2 September 2021 17:12 (three years ago)

XPost!

it's also hard to find the "she was hot" video… this may have to do with the fact that to put it mildly it is not in tune with contemporary mores and maybe the Stones team has scrubbed it?

I went looking for it recently and found a notice on the label site (where a cut had been hosted) that it had been removed on copyright claims from some European film company, presumably because of some source footage.

The band themselves used to have it up on their YouTube page, and before that both edits in VHS rips where pretty easy to find there.

Apparently the easiest way to see it online now is to look at taped vintage MTV video blocks on archive.org. However the one I was directed to only had the first half of the video, probably an edit by the uploader.

And of course one could always track down the Rewind VHS/Laser Disc.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 September 2021 17:22 (three years ago)


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