Techno classics that are really, really badly produced

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I'm in the mood, point me in the right direction. Suggestions for tracks released after 1995 are especially appreciated.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

How do you define bad production after 1995?

I just wanna say how badly produced 'Strings Of Life' is on a technical basis, again

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

what kind of mood do you have to be in to listen to badly-produced techno music?

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 11:29 (twenty-one years ago)

a rabid, rancid, uncompromising mood.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

explain 'badly produced'!!!

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

well, exactly. but good people, you are not helping me in my quest.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

you are not helping us to help you

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

*sigh* OK, you're forcing me to be rational. I hate that.

It must sound like it was made in five minutes. It must sound like the producer didn't give a sh*t. It must sound like it was thrown together. It must sund like it was made on almost no equipment It must be full of hiss. And, finally, it must be brilliant.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass?

― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I just wanna say how badly produced 'Strings Of Life' is on a technical basis, again

You'll be wanting 'Strings of Life' as covered by Soulcentral, on Defected, which I just played. The press release says "this new version pays tribute by doing exactly the same thing", and it's every bit as worthy a use of valuable resources as that makes it sound

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I didn't mean that to be as snidey as it came out. You seem to have pretty good taste

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, celebrate the shoddy! highlight the spirit as that's what matters most...oh the ironing...what do you mean by valuable resources tho?? also thanks but by taste i think you mean tolerance ;)

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Mr. Oizo "Flat Beat"
Mr. Scruff "Get a Move On"
V/VM "Take my beef away"
Substance "Relish"

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Alec Empire "Lash the 90ties"
Hrvatski & Blitter "Nuclear Cats Get New Home"

and I've already posted this twice but it seems relevant so hey who wants copies of my 1998 demo record?

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

That is the first Time Mr Scruff and Techno have been in the same area. I thought they were mutually exclusive on the ven diagram myself.

Josh Wink - Higher State of Consciousness sounds quickly cobbled together to me. Pitch it up a bit, and a bit more, and a bit further...

― ___ (___), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought that track dated earlier than 1995?

I'm being really kind of freewheeling with my definition of 'techno' obv

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Sweet Harmony
Liquid

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Wink was '95

maybe Christopher Just 'I'm A Disco Dancer'? i love it

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

what do you mean by valuable resources tho??

Well, the oil and stuff they make the plastic with, obv... also Conemelt own this thread (you might argue I'm playing free and easy with the term "classic" but fuck it, they fit like a glove)

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i think Ashley Beedle's rework of 'Strings Of life' is my fave, but what about the Jeff Mills thing?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

from 1990 : Ron Trent -- "Altered States" is certainly my favourite underproduced record ever.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Chester Beatty

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I've heard the Ashley Beedle remake but Jeff Mills PWN3Z with his, it really made me lose patience with a lot of other versions

Also the "brilliant" part seems to be the problem here, I could name about 437 albums full of stuff I have at home that fit the other criteria without breaking a sweat. Force Tracks anyone?

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

When was "Paperclip Man" released?

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

This probably doesn't count, but I just got the Trax Records "History Of House" box set, and oh, man - every single track is hissy, dirty, and noisy, and therefore ROCKS THE PROVERBIAL BOX.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

more recently : a couple of Wolfgang Voigt's Gas albums ("Zauberberg" in particular) are full of hiss and crackle. The bass swamps everything, there are synth washes and rumble that seems to drop in and out at random, and the whole thing sounds very lo-fi (albeit all this was done intentionally, I'm sure).
Uh, yeah, I'd think that's intentional. Esp. on "Zauberberg" where most of the sounds are sampled from old vinyl, that's part of the schtick.
The Vladislav Delay releases on Chain Reaction (esp. the Multila) sound like ass. It sounds like it was mixed through a crappy digital 24db Low Pass Filter. This is striking considering how good the Basic Channel/Chain Reaction/Imbalance/etc. releases always sound.

― direct_program, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I am going to go home and run my Yamaha workstation through my old ass Nakamichi tape deck's mic inputs because of this thread. Yippee!

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Also: lots of stuff by DJ Elin / Autorepeat fits under this category, I think

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Sven Vath - Ein Waggon Voller Geschichte
Japanese Telecom - Virtual Origami

― jjj, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Reese & Santonio - "The Sound" owns this thread!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Homework by Daft Punk sounds like it was tossed together in five minutes, but it's brilliant.

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Homework is quite well produced surely! Maybe not in a techno/dance way necessarily but come on! Enough producers attempted to ape it afterwards anyway, and not in a mild way.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

all that Trax and Transmat stuff was, regardless of how it was produced, mastered like crap. I have No Way Back on a Trax repress but prefer to play it of the Warp Influences box set. I also made the mistake of buying the vinyl of the Transmat Relics comp on Buzz but can't play it because it sounds so bad.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Floor - Paperclip People
Bludclot Artattack - Ed Rush

― paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

x post I am going to go home and run my Yamaha workstation through my old ass Nakamichi tape deck's mic inputs because of this thread. Yippee!

Nice! One of my favorite li'l tricks is to mix out of my digital interface onto cassette (Chrome. Gots to be Chrome) then back into my computer. There's been a few instances where tracks mixed this way have elicited the reaction "Wow. It sounds real warm. How'd you get that sound?" People have forgotten the beauty of hiss. Especially in dance tunes.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

early Aphex Twin/AFX/Caustic Window/Polygon Window stuff is pretty lo-fi and still sounds amazing.

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

all that Trax and Transmat stuff was, regardless of how it was produced, mastered like crap.

The quality of the pressing and the vinyl used also left a great deal to be desired as well. Most of the warped, hissy, skipping on the run-in groove 12"s I have are from Trax, Transmat, Metroplex or KMS. Transmat has probably been the biggest offender though.

― Graeme (Graeme), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

LO-FI IS NOT BAD PRODUCTION

― Gribowitz (Lynskey), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

LO-FI NO LONGER SIGNIFIES AUTHENTICITY

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

he's an indie musician spencer.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

So am I!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

(sort of)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

we all are.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

funny that carl craig got mentioned but not the old psyche/bfc tracks he did. loads and loads of hiss and distortion on those, totally magical sounding of course.

i (heart) chewshabadoo for mentioning CHESTER BEATTY. that guy is an insane filter genius. he carelessly piles on layers and layers of sound until they are just brain-meltingly dense but somehow retains the forward propulsion of techno. listening to the beginning of chester beatty's tresor album in my car, right after buying it at tower records, with the volume turned all the way up, was the closest i'd ever come to that feeling where the music is pounding it's way through the speakers into your body and then expanding back out through your skin all tingly without actually being completely trashed at a rave. it actually brought tears to my eyes and i was deaf for half the afternoon.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Space Invaders are Smoking Grass is a very good call. Also, Siegbran, you were required here (if you're interested of course):

Siegbran quizzed by the Mole on Darkthrone

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Aphex Twin - SAW 85-92

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Newbuild 808 State - although it sure was before 95

― hector (hector), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah you see this is the problem, much of it's before 1995.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

hakan libdo brags about how fast he makes his tracks.
the sistol album (first electronic stuff v. delay made) out
on phthalo is pretty fucking dingey sounding. a bit too
much for me, though i never favored a pure undiluted
thump thump thumping.

some of the earlier kompakt tunes sound quite badly and quickly made.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Most advent records are really noisy, dont follow the standard 4/8/16/32 bar patterns often don't start on the 1 beat and worst of all, almost all of them have a point where they drop a beat or something so that if you're mixing over it when it happens, your mix goes 100% off. Other than that they rule.

― tylero (tylero), Thursday, 29 July 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah you see this is the problem, much of it's before 1995.

Less common use of DAWs and more reliance on MIDI, analog mixing desks and DAT / reel-to-reel maybe?

― Graeme (Graeme), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe...

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 29 July 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

carl craig OWNS this thread. he even calls himself 'old cloth ears'.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha does he? That's hilarious.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Now you mention it, 'Landcruising' is very slapdash - but still a great album, for me anyway.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

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