T/S : Reggaeton vs. Grime

http://www.evil-wire.org/~ampere/mp3/funky/ (check the new funky neurotic stuff)

Having said that, I don't want to bury UKG. I love it, and it's definitely more interesting from a rhythmic variety / electronic noise perspective than the funk or reggaeton I've heard. The UK culture is amazingly rich with this kind of experimentation.

What I realize I'm missing is SEX. I've never heard the words "sexy body" sung so scrumptiously as on that Queen Ivy track. But I never get the same kind of tingle from UKG. (Maybe the nearest was Lisa Mafia singing "it's just the sentamental things" on the first So Solid album)

I still dream that one day, I'm sure we're gonna get all these genres cross-bred. And that's gonna be amazing.

if i was to download one of the folders from that site linked above,which one should it be?

Fulanito might be worth looking into. What I remember hearing from them before sounded like a very technofied merengue, but I think they are moving into more of a reggaeton sound (judging by five second audio samples, but that's probably all I need to figure out this much).

You got reggaeton in my salsa
tell me about Spanish language Dancehall
Is anyone here listening to salsa? Other Latin music?

I'd recommend as far as the favela funk stuff, I love the song "Treme" from Funk Neurotico 24, I'd definitely recommend checking that out.

Some other fairly popular outfits: Trebol Clan (though Francis Wattlington, out missing ILXor from Puerto Rico, was particularly down on them) and Hector y Tito.

My favorite track is this big gothic bombastic jawn called "quien quiere guerra" by Tempo and Mexicano.

. . . I can't help but wonder if this new generation of popular musicians from Puerto Rico and Latin New York are losing their profoundly deep musical traditions and with it their musical chops."

Obviously I don't expect much sympathy for these attitudes around here. Perhaps to his credit, he moves on to recommend new music that he thinks more successfully mixes old and new Cuba 21.

"Most of the djs on [dancehall] anthologies couldn't even get on a package tour while roots artists are consitently filling halls by gving people something they really want instead of jamming the same old messages they're blasted with everyday inna babylon over the same hip hop beats driving this musical exodus. It would be nice to see some of reggae's major labels return to breaking new ground instead of driving it into the ground with the dark side of dancehall's endless repetition."

I don't think you need me to tell you how I feel about this.

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I'm not an expert, and I barely like it to be honest, but being I interact with a number of it's Brasilian protagonists, I've learned a few things I've shread here before.

a.) It's not called Baile Funk; it's Funk Carioca if it's from Rio, and just Funk in general otherwise. Baile Funk is a location (Portuguese uses the adjective after the noun - Baile is a place to dance, and Funk is the type of music played)

b.) The earliest I can track the genre so far is 1989, so it's far from new.

c.) Their only goal is to make Miami Bass in its pure form. As they've told me, they call it Funk because 70's Funk DJ's just evolved with American Black music w/o taking note of sub-genres and name changes. For whatever reason, they followed Black music down the Miami path. I've been told (and almost convinced) that DJ Nazz is THE one guy who imported Miami Bass to Brazil causing this, despite DJ Malboro's ubiquitous fame on the scene.

d.) The irony is, virtually all of the beats are based on DJ Battery Brain's 808 Volt Mix, which is a late 80's West Coast Techno-Hop style bass track, rather than Bass actually from Miami.

They've been joining my Miami Bass History mailing list like crazy this past year.

T/s? Grime. Although it sounds less fun, it still sounds even more 'out'.

Is this a worthy compilation? I saw it today and nearly got it as I'm new to Reggaeton and know virtually nothing about it. Is there anything better I can get in the UK?

xpost: I don't know that compilation and I don't know enough to recommend much, but like I say, Luny Tunes' "Mas Flow 2" is really good.

Where is the link for all the rough guides btw?

Actually what's interesting is that reggaeton is sorta similar - the best bits sonically tend to be those where the lumpen beat is overlayed with syncopated effects and drum rolls.

This approach can be tenuously contrasted with the rhythmic logic of 2-step/grime/dancehall/post-Timbaland R&B and hip hop/bounce - where it's all about coming up with one expertly constructed rhythm.