OK, so you love X, but you just have to hate Y by X

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X=Depeche Mode, Y="I Feel You"
X=Genesis, Y="I Can't Dance"
X=The Beatles, Y="Come Together"
X=The Beach Boys, Y="Student Demonstration Time"

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 16 October 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

X = Guided by Voices, Y = "I Am a Tree"
X = Belle and Sebastion, Y = "Beyond The Sunrise"

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Saturday, 16 October 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't agree with this at all, but x could = The Police and Y could = "Mother".

― Pangolino (ricki spaghetti), Saturday, 16 October 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

X=Depeche Mode, Y="I Feel You"
WTF??????

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 16 October 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Definitely, yes. Depeche were at their best in the 80s, when they were a synthpop band rather than a "rock" band.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 16 October 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

X = Hank Williams, Y =Kaw-Liga

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Saturday, 16 October 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never thought of SoFaD as a "rock" album ... it *is* one of their weakest (but not because it's more "rock". Anyhow, "I Feel You" is such a rush, it's probably their best 90's single that isn't called "Enjoy The Silence".

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

X=The Rolling Stones, Y="Terrifying," "Rock and a Hard Place," most album covers from 'Steel Wheels' forward -- I mean, has Jagger secretly gone blind?

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― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"I Feel You" has lots of ugly noisy guitars on it, plus the tune is just a sad excuse for a tune. Usually, Martin Gore writes really strong melodies, but that was not the case when he came up with the repetitive "I Feel You"

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

X = fellatio, Y = death

― Guayaquil, Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaah

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

X=The Beatles, Y="Come Together"

Geir, you are the dumbest motherfucker on the planet.

― Candlestick, Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

babybird, "you're gorgeous"

― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

seconded, come on! that bassline! those lyrics!
x-post

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that hating Come Together thing just does not compute. I think Geir hates the funk.

xxpost

― Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"Come Together" could have been written in the 50s. And 50s rock sucked.

And, yes, I guess I hate "the funk".

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"Come Together" could have been written in the 50s. And 50s rock sucked.

???????????????????????????????????????
Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly
He got joo-joo eyeball he one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker he just do what he please

He wear no shoeshine he got toe-jam football
He got monkey finger he shoot coca-cola
He say "I know you, you know me"
One thing I can tell you is you got to be free
Come together right now over me

He bag production he got walrus gumboot
He got Ono sideboard he one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knee
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease
Come together right now over me

He roller-coaster he got early warning
He got muddy water he one mojo filter
He say "One and one and one is three"
Got to be good-looking 'cause he's so hard to see
Come together right now over me

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

And 50s rock sucked.
HUGE WTF right there.

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not speaking about the lyrics. I am speaking of the melody (or lack thereof) and the harmonies (or lack thereof)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

How does "Come Together" sound like 50s rock? It's a mutant psychadelic blues stomp, and one of the most arresting songs The Beatles ever recorded. I really don't get where you're coming from.

xxxxpost

― Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

It sounds like 50s rock in that it has just three chords and a lot of bluenotes in it. Just like all those tired old 50s rock songs that The Beatles originally finally rid the world of when they started writing more melodically and harmonically complex stuff in the 60s.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, you hate the funk.

― Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate American music (which also means its "African" elements, I guess) I want my music to sound European.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Geir, you are the DUMBEST motherfucker on the planet.

― Candlestick, Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"Martha My Dear", "Honey Pie" etc. all represent The Beatles at their best because they are using genuine English music rather than those American sounds that way too many pre-Beatles bands were leaning on.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

How does "Come Together" sound like 50s rock? It's a mutant psychadelic blues stomp

Keyword: "Blues"!

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

GEIR HATES SEX

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Geir taking the piss?

― Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

It seems like he doesn't get the basic principles behind pop music and should should just listen to classical.

― Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I see no reason why popular music should be based on different basic principles than classical.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

And, also note that during the pre-rock age, most popular music was based on the same basic principles as classical.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

oh brother

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"I see no reason why popular music should be based on different basic principles than classical."

Well, sorry, most of it isn't. Get used to it.

― Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

The best of it is. And during the better periods of popular music, the majority has been.

Right now we are in an age of unsophisticated musical values, but that will change again, like it has in the past.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you ever thought of joining the Conservative Party?

― Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

X= Led Zeppelin
Y= "Fool in the Rain" and pretty much all of "In Through The Out Door"

― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Come Together is funky? Who sez? It's a laborious drag of a song. It's about as "funky" as Under the Bridge.

― Good Dog, Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, Geir, I'm really going to have to take you to task for the racsist undertones of your recent posts:

"I hate American music (which also means its "African" elements, I guess) I want my music to sound European."

Fair enough, that's an opinion.

"Right now we are in an age of unsophisticated musical values, but that will change again, like it has in the past."

Definately NOT fair enough, implying that European musical values are intrinsically more sophisticated than African ones.

xpost - Come Together is extremely funky. It's just a langorous kind of funk.

― Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Come Together--does it make you wanna dance? Nope. It's head music through and through. European even.

― Good Dog, Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

It makes me want to swivel my hips slowly, yes.

― Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

geir, can't you keep yer harebrained rationales outta ANY thread?!? jeezus!!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It makes me want to swivel my hips slowly, yes.

This is exacrly how I feel about True by Spandau Ballet

― Good Dog, Sunday, 17 October 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

frank zappa songs that i actively loathe:

"wild love"
"jumbo go away"
"ship arriving too soon to save a drowning witch"
"stick together"

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 17 October 2004 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

X=Frank Zappa Y=Most of Zappa's stuff post '74.

― Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 17 October 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

X = Xiu Xiu
Y = FUCKING EVERYTHING

― Mickey, Sunday, 17 October 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

X = Guided by Voices, Y = "I Am a Tree"
X = Belle and Sebastion, Y = "Beyond The Sunrise"

-- A Million Talking Hot Dogs (aaronh...), October 16th, 2004.

haha, "I Am A Tree" is one of the only GBV songs I really like.

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

My condolences

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ooh, sassy.

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

hippie

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

X = The Smiths
Y = "Golden Lights"

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 17 October 2004 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)

No.

Does Everyone On Earth Really Hate "Golden Lights"?

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 17 October 2004 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Definately NOT fair enough, implying that European musical values are intrinsically more sophisticated than African ones.

African American music isn't African, it is North American. If you look at music from, for instance, the French-speaking part of Africa, you will find a much larger variety melodically and harmonically. It is the limited harmonic heritage from American country and American folk that has made African American music so unsophisticated.

And American culture being unsophisticated is a well-known fact...

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 October 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't agree with the question.

― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 17 October 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

the limited harmonic heritage from American country and American folk

Blow it out your ass, man.

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Sunday, 17 October 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Why has this thread got more posts than the original?

(oh, people arguing with Geir. OK, as you were...)

― mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 17 October 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

. . . African American music so unsophisticated . . .

Like jazz?

― Phil Dennison (Phil D.), Sunday, 17 October 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I give you that jazz, particularly more recent jazz, is not at all unsophisticated.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 October 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate the Beatles, but I don't hate 'Come Together'.

X = The Pixies
Y = Most of 'Bossanova'

― Sasha (sgh), Sunday, 17 October 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

x - ccr
y - down on the corner

― j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Sunday, 17 October 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I give you that jazz, particularly more recent jazz, is not at all unsophisticated.

Oh yeah, like Hot 5's and 7's, anybody coulda done that. Pfft.

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Sunday, 17 October 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

X = The Magnetic Fields; Y = It's a Crime
X = Kate Bush; Y = Babooshka
X = The Cure; Y = Friday I'm in Love

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"And American culture being unsophisticated is a well-known fact..."

...if you are an ignoramus.

― Nemo (JND), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't set him off again.

― Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I love how every few months new ILXors discover the wonderful world of Geir.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd go more for X = The Magnetic Fields; Y = Love Is Like Jazz

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 18 October 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

x=geir y=the shitstorms started by people seriously engaging his premises

― jake b. (cerybut), Monday, 18 October 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd go more for X = The Magnetic Fields; Y = Love Is Like Jazz
Y could equal any of a dozen tracks from "69 Love Songs".

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't hate 'It's A Crime', though. Not that I especially matter. The only other one I really hate is 'Roses'.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

love is like jazz, punk rock love, experimental music love (if that counts) all suck the big one

― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

X=The Beach Boys, Y="Student Demonstration Time"

nah, X = Beach Boys, Y = "Kokomo"

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

In the case of Beach Boys, Y could be several tracks from after Brian left the band. "Student Demonstration Time" is an example of an awful Beach Boys track from back when they used to be good though.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

X = The Comsat Angels, Y = those backup singers on "Day One"
X = The Teardrop Explodes - Wilder, Y = "Falling Down Around Me" to an extent
X = Gang of Four, Y = Hard
X = pre-1982 Simple Minds, Y = everything after that

― Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"I Feel You" is like their coolest song.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

love is like jazz, punk rock love, experimental music love (if that counts) all suck the big one

I do seem to be in a minority in not hating the latter two. They're fine. Punctuation, i guess, but they add to something to the sprawl, to me. Anyway, sorry for derailing this into another 69 Love Songs thread.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)

X = The Go-Betweens
Y = "Cut It Out"

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

'River Of Money', surely?

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)

X=fun, Y=not fun...this whole x/y thing has me confused..

― knit, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Neil Young/"Let's Roll"?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll stick up for Love is Like Jazz. Sure, it would have bummed me out maybe if it was on say, Get Lost or something, but in the context of a 69 song triple CD it's perfectly fine, piss-take joke track that it is. It's not like it was a single. Besides that, I like the bass line (probably as close to funky as TMF will ever get) and Merritt's intonation throughout kinda cracks me up, especially the way he says "windchimes".

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 06:27 (twenty-one years ago)

'River Of Money', surely?

I have a soft spot for RoM - a noble failure at worst. 'Cut It Out' is hideously pale un-funk of the most wretched and ill-advised kind.

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

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