What new box-setty-ish product can you get that hard-to-please electronic music lover for the holidays?

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Dude in question already has Kompakt 100.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Birchville Cat Motel - Beautiful Speck Triumph

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

not really a box set...but 2 hours of music nonetheless

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

and not really electronic music, either

but fuck it, what an outstanding album

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

have you seen this? haven't got any of that myself...

the electrosoniks 'electronic music'

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

How about that thing JBR put on her best of 2004 list?

LaRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

TRAX 20th anniversary box - if "liking electronics" means "liking dance music"

LSTD (answer) (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

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Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Opening with Clara Rockmore's reworking of Tchaikovsky with the theremin, and finishing with one of Brian Eno's ambient soundscapes, OHM artfully succeeds in its goal of giving a representative (as opposed to the impossible, comprehensive) overview of the first several decades of electronic music. Over 3 discs, 42 compositions, and 96 pages of notes and photos, OHM clearly illustrates the producers' and contributing writers' point that early electronic music is much of the foundation of contemporary music. Herein lies the connective tissue bridging musique concrète, 20th-century classical, electronic experimentation, and the theoretical avant-garde to psychedelia, ambient, dub, techno, electro, and synthpop and the globalization of sound. The groundbreaking uses of loops, sampling, drones, remixes, and cut-and-paste technology are put fully into context. The diversity of music included makes any sort of summation impossible, but that is also the point: electronic music is not really a genre, but an open field of endless possibility. From John Cage's famous "William's Mix" of tape snippets to Karkheinz Stockhausen's electronic orchestral compositions, from David Tudor and Holger Czukay's experiments in unrelated blendings of audio elements to David Behrman's supremely peaceful duet between computers and musicians, the aural renegades on OHM tread where none (save a few of their contemporaries) had gone before. The liner notes convey the incredible amount of hard work and experimentation it took to stitch together many of these pieces in the predigital era. Putting aside the inevitable quibbles about what's missing (much of it due to legal and/or logistical issues), a more complete collection of musical eggheads, eccentrics, and visionaries is hard to imagine.--Carl Hanni

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The "Anthology of Noise and Electronic Music" compilations on Sub Rosa are pretty decent. They're up to volume 3 now, I think.

mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing I was thinking of is the thing julio mentioned, I think.

LaRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Stewart, that thing looks great. What about for neophytes who only know from Delia Derbyshire- would they like it too?

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

spend $100 and get them the erstwhile amplify 2002 box.

dan (dan), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/z/zzpopularelectronicse_101b.jpg

--This is a model, a standard, a template for how such collections should be assembled and presented. Four CDs in a substantial box with seven booklets (180pp) comprehensively written, beautifully documented and illustrated in full colour on nice print stock with 3 fold-out replicas: a score, a schematic, an early newspaper article - and a fold out time chart. The texts are excellently researched and written (with exemplary materials on the Philips laboratory, electronic scoring for film, the three featured artists: Dick Raaijmakers aka Kid Baltan. Henk Badings and Tom Dissevelt, and extensive track notes, beautifully designed. The CDs concentrate only on the popular and functional productions of the studio, meaning ballet music, industrial film soundtracks and experimental productions of what was intended to be 'popular electronic music', that is non-academic electronics pitched somewhere between science fiction beeps and swoops, tunes, lounge and jazz. That said, most is not sleazy (as much later work in the field tended to be) but really straddles worlds in a fascinating (and very listenable) way. CD1 presents 2 ballet scores by Henk Badings, 'Cain and Abel' (1956) and 'Evolutionen' (1958), plus 'the world's first attempt at popular electronic music' - a single by Kid Baltan (1957) with an unpublished B-side for 3 ondes martinots and backward piano, Tom Dissevelt's extraordinary 'Intersection' for electronic sound and jazz orchestra (1961), plus a few other pieces from 1959 & '60. CD2 features concert and film soundtrack music ('57 - '66) including a pretty wild 16 minute unpublished industrial film track by Dick Raaijmakers (using his own name for his non popular productions). CD 3 reproduces Tom Dissevelt's 'Fantasy in Orbit' LP (1963) and CD 4 contains great alternate versions of some of the pieces on the other CDs, some extra, short, unpublished pieces and 75 'sound example' tracks which are not only fascinating and instructive but also make great listening just as they are, in sequence. The CD ends with a spoken letter from Fred Judd (1966) to Tom Dissevelt about the problems of popular electronic music and the state of play in the UK as well as Holland at the time. This CD is a gem. But then so are volumes 1 and 2. Vol 3 is a more standard electronic/lounge production, interesting but not exceptional. Overall, I would say that this is as much of a must-have set as Raymond Scott's 'Manhattan Research' which it in many ways resembles and which was also produced by Basta. This was a critical and interesting period in the history of early electronics, and the Dutch productions have until now been rather ignored. They were important and here they have been given the best presentation anyone could want. Essential. And cheap!


I keep seeing this at Twisted Village and almost buying it.

Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

just buy it. that's chris cutler's review: he's averse to loops and drones, so it's no surprise he doesn't like Dissevelt's 'Fantasy in Orbit', but I love it -- it's very SAWII, but vintage. the whole set is incredible. Reviewers are sleeping on this one, it's embarrassing.

the Ohm set is also really nice, very well done overview.

the Sub Rosa sets are also surprisingly listenable; the first one has a lot of great brutal noise from the 60's, including the incredible 30 minute Oliveros piece, the second one is much mellower, has great exclusive Dockstader and Alan Splet pieces.


(Jon L), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah get the trax thing.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

cutting and pasting cutler's reviews for the sub rosa series:

An Anthology of Noise and Electronic Music first a chronology 1921-2001 (Dbl)
Price: £12.50

A very worthwhile collection that includes pieces well known, and crucial to the form - though probably already in the collections of students and specialists -: Corale, ÎWeekend', Etude Violette, Scambi, Poeme Electronique, Concret PH, Rozart Mix, Aspekt, plus a number of unreleased pieces, mostly of interest though not always great, of which for me the most resonant is one by Sonic Youth, made at the end of a concert, where they turned their microphones onto a baying crowd and processed the sound they made in real time. A gem. This is a fine collection for those wanting some grounding in the history of electronic music and for those who will want some of these unreleased pieces. The presentation is eccentric, not chronological, with Pousseur and Mumma in the chronology section and Varese and Cage in the Îexploration' section, which is not organised chronologically, nor in any other way that I can perceive. There are notes, but they don't explain the raison d'etre of the order or the choice of pieces either. Better to ignore the educational or historical part and take this as an almost random scattering of interesting pieces by participants in the unfolding story of electronic music. There are rarities here, and strange unexplained juxtapositions. A Î postmodern' approach one might say; slightly scattershot with no clear intellectual underpinning. Are Varese, Cage and Fennesz really comparable in a coherent way?The bulk of the music, however, can speak for itself.


ANTHOLOGY OF NOISE AND ELECTRONIC MUSIC. Vol 2 (dble CD)
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Another vital, if eccentric, collection from SR, who seem now to be the best source for much of the historic catalogue and who are slowly assembling an indispensable library. CD1 contains pieces by well known composers (Ussachevsky, Luening, Ferrari, Dockstader), by much lauded but seldom heard pioneers, such as Daphne Oram, Johanna M Beyer and Hugh Davis, as well as pieces by Morton Subotnik, Alan Splet and Kim Cascone. There's also a quintessential piece of phone-pirate Scanner. CD2, deals more with the recent years and veers off into territories I don't care for so much, but is still a useful overview (Autechre, Yoshihiro Hanno, Merira Asher, Lasse Steen, SPK &c). It also contains a short piece by Percy Grainger for 4 Theremins, a strong sample of industrial ambient Laibach, a feedback piece by David Myers and two inexplicable selections from Sun Ra and Don Van Vliet (well OK for them being there, but the choice of pieces does not bring out what is essential). Still, no complaining. Overall, it's essential listening, and though loosely documented, here the ear's the thing.


AN ANTHOLOGY OF NOISE & ELECTRONIC MUSIC: Volume 3 Third a Chronology (dbl)
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Third in the valuable Sub Rosa edition. The main work of this volume seems to be a proposed connection between early electronic productions evolved under the aegis of contemporary 'classical' music - yes, the terminology is deeply problematic - and recent, mostly computer and sample driven - work that floats unattached to any institution. From the first group there are pieces by Hugh le Caine, Ilhan Mimaroglu, Herbert Eimert, Robert Beyer, Bernard Parmegiani and Michel Chion; from the second Michael Schumacher, Francisco Lopez, Peter Rehberg, Asmus Tietchens, Rune Lindblad , Michael Rother (Kraftwerk), Lilith, Merzbow, Faust and a few sound artists: (Justin Bennet, Carsten Nicolai, CM Von Hausswolf. These are not complete lists, there are 23 pieces featured. A few stand out: Le Caine, Mimaroglu, Schumacher, Einert and Beyer, Faust but it is the sweep across somehow related fields that is useful to a listener trying to orientate in a profligacy of 'electronic' music. For the laptop generation, this will likely be an enjoyable collection, for students of the history of electronic music it should be informative; in any case it's a valuable resource. I still tend to the view that the claim to kinship between these different worlds is problematic and that many essential questions need to be answered before it can be easily accepted. The presence of Faust and Merzbow suggest this, but not deliberately. Perhaps I ask too much. In general this is an admirable and invaluable series.
[OFFER. All three Volumes £48]

(Jon L), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

milton has the tip, and I second the Ohm and Popular Electronics mentions. Also try the Raymond Scott Manhattan Research Inc set on Basta.

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I say download Black Strobe's Essential Mix, burn it on two cdr's and then make your own wooden cd-box, maybe throw in a couple of E's to make it a real limited edition. Yes? No?

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a downloadable home for this essential mix online?

hector (hector), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
I'm coveting that Popular Electronics set - any tips on where to find it without breaking the bank? Cheapest I've found is at the ReR site, for £36 ($67).

Ernest P. (ernestp), Friday, 28 January 2005 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)

BBC RADIOPHONIC WORKSHOP - Music From The BBC Radiophonic Workshop

hmmm (hmmm), Friday, 28 January 2005 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)


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