THE FESTIVE FIFTY 2004

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Thought we'd best get cracking early, possibly cos I'm a little bored right now - the first one without Mr Peel at the helm, kicking off at eleven tonight on BBC Radio 1 97-99 FM in the YooKay, http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1 in the internet. Three (3) installments this year, which means listening to Other Songs in between the super-hits. The thread from last year's one (to be dug up by someone else) ended up being quite entertaining and Martian got quite pissy. Are the two events related? Hmm...

Anyway, predictions underway here, please. I'm going for whatever that Wedding Present single was to edge out, erm... Snow Patrol, maybe. I've lost touch a bit.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

John Peel Festive 50 is yer mucker for last year.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

And, for contrast, Peel's most-played records of the year are, with 5 plays each,

Delgados - Everybody Come Down

Electrelane - This Deed

Mint Chicks - Blue Team Go!

The Vaults - Straight-faced

The rest are here. Rest ye in peace, merry gentleman.

― Acme (acme), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm. Much as I'd love to think ECD has a shot, I somehow doubt it. The minor-league street team initiatives will probably overhaul it.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

ace, joy division already. don't quite see how playing old festive 50 tracks fits in with RDB saying: "an hour of new music first", but who cares?

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Doing the Festive 50 without John Peel is like doing The Simpsons without the Simpsons.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Of course, I'll still listen in 'cause I love this stuff.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

What was that German techno track?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Just switched on, all time festive fifty?

Well NO. 42 is Heroin by The Velvet Underground. Is this a public vote and is Teenage Kicks going to be number 1?

― elwisty, Tuesday, 28 December 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

No, what they're doing is playing a couple random festive fifty tracks from years past, and in a couple minutes they'll start with this year's festive fifty

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, ticket number 50 is...

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

The Vaults- Lady Hell

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

not a good start

― keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

John played this on the 10th and 19th of February. Why?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

was there a festive fifty in '66?! I remember a few years back when he did the Peelenium countdown not anything to do with that is it?

― elwisty, Tuesday, 28 December 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

it's like they want to be Jet but they are too incompetent

― keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Ballboy really are the new Hefner.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

They're 49, as well.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i like this song. good thing martian is not here.

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

every single song on the new ballboy album sounds the same.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

they can't play, i think that's why.

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

48. Ella Guru - Park Lake Speakers

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

This song sounds like schizophenia.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

never heard of this next one. it's like primitive radio gods.

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

they [ballboy] can't play, i think that's why.

"the sash my father wore" was very good, though, that's the thing. they should go full-time acoustic.

and they're very lovely people, i'm told.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

47. The Magic Band- Electricity

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

skronk skronk bloody skr ... hang on, it's quite good. damn.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

christ this is awful.

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a bit like moonshake only not good

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

No wonder Beefheart used to threaten them at gunpoint.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

46. Th£ M0unta!n G0ats- Your Belgian Things

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I dare someone to slag this off.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

ha, it's a bit like all of the other mountain goats songs

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

he doesn't come here any longer, does he?

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

he will now ;)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

he should play with ballboy

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

45. aphrodisiacs: if you want me

go SL!

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

45. The Aphrodisiacs - If You Want Me

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe these songs sound better when they aren't streaming online.

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i've not heard this yet. the recorded version. seen 'em live twice, though, and love 'em. at the SL xmas party in glasgow they closed their set by going all god-machiney. very weird.

they need louder beats.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

44. Bloc Party- Little Thoughts

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

first bloc party song i've ever heard

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

When is ILM going to have a thread about why Bloc Party are awful?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

is that the frantic scribbling of mark e smith's lawyer in the background?

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

actually, it's now stopped sounding like the fall and sounds like idlewild.

is that the frantic scribbling of idlewild's etc etc etc

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i liked that one

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

43. Kentucky AFC with a song title I didn't catch.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Sounds like a Welsh Supergrass (the early years).

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

who votes for this stuff? friends of the band?

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

drumzzzz!

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

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New The Fall album next year

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 31 December 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

See? Democracy does work when you don't use e-voting machines.

Happy again with the world. Don't much like the song.

― Acme (acme), Friday, 31 December 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

This completely kicks the arse off the album version.

― neil tacus (tacit), Friday, 31 December 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a really great song.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 31 December 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

If it hadn't been The Fall I would have cursed their souls to hell.

― Bimble..., Friday, 31 December 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fall can be really goddamn wonderful when they want to be.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Y. Not their best, not even of their recent stuff, a bit playing to the gallery, but at the end of the day, The Fall are still a reasonable contender for "best band ever", and JP loved them. And this knocks spots off the Libertines or Franz Ferdinand. I am afraid this all means I am very very happy with this result.

― fletcher dexter, Friday, 31 December 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not sure whether i'm disappointed with that top ten or not. lots of stuff i *liked*, but ... nothing that blew me away or particularly shocked me.

thank fucketty fuck the fiery furnaces didn't get in there.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"We live on blood-ah!"

― neil tacus (tacit), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"SHEPHERD'S PIE!! (HEY!!)"

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

But yes, they could have chosen a better Fall song.

― Bimble..., Friday, 31 December 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Same time next year?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

125,000?? Jesus!!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

see you next year

― keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I really really hope they retire the Festive fifty now that Peel's gone.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

So that's it. No more Festive 50's it's all over? They'll never play HMHB on Radio 1 again will they? Would Kershaw play them?

― Bimble..., Friday, 31 December 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, it depends on what they do with Peel's slot. I hope they retire it fully, Bank's just a stand-in (as he admits), they need to decide what they're doing in the longterm...just retire the slot. Bring in someone else who isn't a genre facist like the rest of Radio 1's evening brigade.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

CNN: Tsunamis Shatter Celebrity Holidays

― Acme (acme), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

if that is the last festive 50, i'm glad we did it like this.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Annie Nightingale on now...

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

xx-post: that link's not for real, acme, is it? i can't bring myself to click, because i know i'll end up smashing everything up in a fit of rage.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Annie, Annie, the raving granny.

― neil tacus (tacit), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Acme, I've been wanting to ask you - were you in Seattle for a visit about this time last year? I think we may have met.

― Bimble..., Friday, 31 December 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Fiendish is right, I am terribly grateful for having had this computer experience.

― Bimble..., Friday, 31 December 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yus. thank you, everybody, that was most enjoyable. awra best for 2005!

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, it depends on what they do with Peel's slot. I hope they retire it fully

I'm still keen on this /ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?thread.php?msgid=5224246, and might write, for whatever any of that is worth.

x-posts

I've never had the pleasure of Seattle. Nearest I got was Berkeley, in fact. My name isn't ACME. I call myself Alan Connor. And sorry, Fiendish. It's the real deal.

― Acme (acme), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

More, from Gawker:

Celebrities Among Victims of Tsunami [AP/Yahoo]
Oprah's Gay Designer Survives Tsunami [CNN]
(He was with Fernando Bengoechea, a photographer.)
Even in Malaysia the cover story is the survival of a radio DJ [Malay Mail via Newseum.org]
Tucker Carlson on CNN interviews Stuart Sipkin, Seismologist, U.S. Geological Survey and asks the question that strikes fear in all of us.
CARLSON: Now what about, we've been hearing all day about this volcano in the Canary Islands that may collapse at some point and send a tsunami toward the East Coast of the United States drowning the Hamptons. Do you consider that a likely scenario, a possible scenario?

Devastating Tsunami Kills Tens of Thousands in South Asia [CNN via Wonkette]
RUMOR: IS ADAM CLAYTON OF U2 DEAD?? [CraigsList]
"New York Post: also has a cover that reads paradise lost and the travel section has a subhead reading paradise found."
"The main story on CNN has a picture of young Karl Nilsson - a blond boy from Sweden who was vacationing with his parents who are presumed dead from the Tsunami. This is the second time they've featured a picture of the kid on CNN.com. Betcha he becomes the official poster child of the Tsunami. Figures it takes a blonde haired, blue eyed kid to bring home the death of tens of thousands of brown babies."
"CNN/Drudge Body Count Race finally caught up with Drudge: 60,000. Approaching 70,000. It is like a telethon. Let's keep those numbers up folks! 10,000-30,000, hey Drudge 60,000. Call 555-1212 and donate!"
Finding A Silver Lining [Radosh.net]
Briton surfed his way to Maldives safety [Ireland Online]

― Acme (acme), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Well you have a good 2005, Alan, and I'm glad you put together those lists you did regarding Peel and tracks he played most, etc.

― Bimble..., Friday, 31 December 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

And, from Bloggerheads:

Bush's topped-up donation: $35m

Cost of Bush's inauguration: $40m+

Florida aid: $2bn

Still, bellyaching about the media and the politicians doesn't help much in itself.

x-post: Thanks, Bimble. Happy New Year too. Ah, JP.

― Acme (acme), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you guys heard his Perfumed Garden shows? Such a gentle hippie soul, Peelie was.

― Bimble..., Friday, 31 December 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

x x x post [cnn links]..........I was sat at my parents' on Boxing Day watching the first news reports with my mum of the tsunamis on the ITV news (yeah, we should've known better but..). The main jist of it initially leant heavily towards "lots of British tourists have had their lovely beautiful xmas thai beach holiday breaks RUINED now!". If it wasn't for the fact us made me feel sick, esp with a friend working out there in the midst of it all at the moment, we would have smashed in the tv.

But anyhow. F50 - that was miles better than that awful pile of Miss Black America & Their Local/Touring Friends sub-indie arse that clogged up the festive 50 last year (or was it the year before?). I wasnt too keen on Rob da bank's pre-announcing of each track though, Peelie's back-announcing of them always made it more intriguing, especially when you didn't recognise something...

― petef (pete badmusik), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

No, I mean to download the Perfumed Garden from somewhere. I'm a bit scared of hippies, but still. And I agree, Fiendish: for all the ubermodernity of listening to the digital broadcast while twittering on broadband, it feels nice and small and good to be listening to "the john peel show" like this.

― Acme (acme), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

yes. and if one can raise a digital toast, then i should like to propose one to the man himself, the mighty john peel, without whom i certainly wouldn't be the music-lover i am today.

right, that really is it from me. see you all in 2005. have a top one.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

{To the tune of Dead Kennedys "California Uber Alles" - damn I want to hear that tune they played by DK's tonight again!!!)

"JOHN PEEL....UBER ALLES.....JOHN PEEEL UUUUBER ALLES..."

― Bimble..., Friday, 31 December 2004 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

festive 50 list: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/features/festive_fifty_2004.shtml

Sod it:

1. The Fall - 'Theme from Sparta FC Part 2' (CD Single) - (Action Records)
2. Bearsuit - 'Chargr' (7") - (Fortuna Pop!)
3. Caroline Martin - 'The Singer' (LP- I Had A Hundred More Reasons To Stay By The Fire) - (Small Dog Records)
4. Aereogramme - 'Dreams and Bridges' (LP- Seclusion) - (Undergroove)
5. Sluts of Trust - 'Leave You Wanting More' (LP- We Are All Sluts of Trust) (Chemikal Underground)
6. The Delgados - 'Everybody Come Down' (LP- Universal Audio) - (Chemikal Underground Records)
7. Sons & Daughters - 'Johnny Cash' (mini LP- 'Love The Cup') - (Domino)
8. Half Man Half Biscuit - 'Joy Division' (Peel Session)
9. Graham Coxon - 'Freakin' Out' (Split CD Single thing) - (EMI)
10. Jawbone - 'Hi De Hi' (LP- Dang Blues) - (White Label)
11. Bloc Party - 'Helicopter' (LP- Promo) - (Wichita)
12. Texas Radio Band - 'Chwareon Bwtleg Pep Le Pew' (LP- The North South Divine) - (FF Vinyl)
13. Martyn Hare - 'Do Not Underestimate' (4.55) (12") - (Designer)
14. Cinerama - 'It's Not You It's Me' (7") - (Go Metric! Records)
15. Aereogramme - 'The Unravelling' (LP- Seclusion) - (Undergroove)
16. PJ Harvey - 'The Letter' (CD Single) - (Island)
17. Laura & Ballboy - 'I Lost You But I Found County Music' (CD Single 'Past Lovers) - (Sl Records)
18. Jawbone - 'Jack Rabbit' (LP- Dang Blues) - (Loose)
19. DJ Distance - 'Ritual' (EP- Closer Than You Think) (CDR) - (Lix Recordings)
20. Bloc Party - 'Banquet' (LP- The Silent Album) - (Wichita)
21. Ballboy - 'The Art of Kissing' (LP- The Royal Theatre) (SL Records)
22. The Black Keys - 'Ten AM Automatic' (CD Single) - (Fat Possum)
23. PJ Harvey - 'Shame' (CD Single) - (Island)
24. Decoration - 'It Tried It, I Tried It, I Loved It' (CD Single) (White Label)
25. 65 Days of Static - 'Retreat! Retreat! (LP- The Fall of Math) - (Monotreme)
26. McLusky - 'That Man Will Not Hang' (LP- The Difference Between Me And You Is That I'm Not On Fire') - (Too Pure)
27. Listen With Sarah - 'Animal Hop' (White Label)
28. XBooty - 'O Superman' (12") - (White Label)
29. Digital Mystikz - 'B' (12") - (DMZ)
30. The Black Keys - 'Girl Is On My Mind' (CD Single) - (Fat Possum)
31. Art Brut - 'Formed A Band' (CD Single) - (Rough Trade)
32. The Delgados - 'I Fought The Angels' (LP- Universal Audio) - (Chemikal Underground Records)
33. Shitmat - ''There's No Business Like Propa' Rungleclotted Mashup Bizznizz' (LP- Full English Breakfast) - (Planet Mu)
34. Magic Band - 'Bug Eyed Beans from Venus' - (Peel Session)
35. Jon E Cash - 'International' (12") - (Black Ops)
36. Wedding Present - 'Interstate 5' (CD Single) - (Scopitones)
37. Tunng - 'Tale from Black' (LP- This is…. Tunng - Mother's Daughter and Other Songs) - (Static Caravan)
38. Melys - 'Eyeliner' (CD Single) - (Sylem)
39. Decoration - 'Joy Adamson' - (Peel Session)
40. Cornershop presents Bubbley Kaur - 'Topknot' (CD Single) - (Rough Trade Records)
41. Calvin Party - 'Northern Song' (LP- Never As Black) - (Probe Plus)
42. Plasticman - 'Cha' (12") - (Terrorhythm)
43. Kentucky AFC - 'Be Nesa' (LP- Kentucky AFC) - (Boobytrap)
44. Bloc Party - 'Little Thoughts' (CD Single) - (Witchita)
45. Aphrodisiacs - 'If U Want Me' (CD Single) - (SL Records)
46. Mountain Goats - 'Your Belgian Things' (LP- We Shall All Be Healed) - (4AD)
47. Magic Band - 'Electricity' - (Peel Session)
48. Ella Guru - 'Park Lake Speakers' (LP- The First Album) - (Banana Recordings)
49. Ballboy - 'I don't have time to stand here with you fighting about the size of my dick' (LP- The Royal Theatre) - (SL Records)
50. The Vaults - 'No Sleep No Need' (10") - (Red Flag)

― Mooro (Mooro), Friday, 31 December 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

the projects should have made the final cut.

― keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 31 December 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

What do you mean, the projects?

― Bimble..., Saturday, 1 January 2005 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

'the Projects'

― keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 1 January 2005 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven months pass...

did they already broadcast this year's list? i see there is a playlist on the website.

― keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 26 December 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/onemusic/huw/festive50.shtml - listen again links up the top. I have never heard of the winner.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

neither have i. perhaps it's some kind of joke?

― jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

I had no idea they were persisting with it. It is a comfortingly schmindie list but I have no compulsion to sit and tape the whole thing anymore; now that I officially don't care about the festive 50 and the NME Xmas issue it's hard to work out what my highlight-of-year things are anymore. bah.

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

i have not heard the winner outside of the one music shows whose listeners voted (it's the one that basically a list of little bits of advice, like that song about the suncream from a few years back, only with a grumpy old man slant on it. only really funny the first time).

(and wasn't that crimea thing in the F50 2 or 3 years ago?)

i fell asleep about 3 records into the tuesday show and again 5 records into the thursday show. am on dialup so listen again isn't an option. woe is me...

― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 29 December 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

Jegsy Dodd was the former leader of "The Sons Of Harry Cross" who were somehow related to Half Man Half Biscuit and were also on Probe Plus. That was about 17 years ago though! Speaking of HMHB, I see Joy Division Oven Gloves makes the list again this year.

― everything, Thursday, 29 December 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

Presumably HMHB Joy Division Oven Gloves only made the list because it was officially released on Achtung Bono.

But this list is depressing, becase its not Peel and because if Peel was alive it would be dramatically different.

I find myself retreating further into the brilinace of New Pop a la Girls Aloud and Rachel Stevens, but I will give a nod to the stunning Arcade Fire album (yeah I know its arguably 2004 not 2005) and the damn fine Bloc Party.

And if the man himself were still with us he would hate my choices...and I would love him even more for hating them.

― Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Sunday, 1 January 2006 02:50 (twenty years ago)

My mate's band is at number 17.

I love love love that Early Years track, even if it does sound like something that would soundtrack Football Focus.

― Mippy (Mippy), Sunday, 1 January 2006 08:11 (twenty years ago)

But this list is depressing, becase its not Peel and because if Peel was alive it would be dramatically different.

I'm not sure how true that is - having pored at length over every festive 50 list ever, in order to compile a 6-hour best-of-the-festive-50s DJ set a couple of months ago, I was struck by just how conservative most of the 50s actually were.

it occurred to me that if peel had had the power to really influence the list himself, it would have been a whole lot more obscure, or obscurist at least. let we forget, he canned the whole list one year because he hated so much of the music on it!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Sunday, 1 January 2006 12:33 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Peel complain on a regular basis that the 50 was too guitar-based...

― Mippy (Mippy), Sunday, 1 January 2006 12:40 (twenty years ago)

i wouldn't be surprised if that were true, given all the wonderfully varied electronic, African, hip-hop, experimental stuff he played as a matter of course. it must have been hugely frustrating to have such a catholic mind and exhibit it in public, only for your beloved audience to ignire the bulk of it and vote for the bloody Wedding Present again...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Sunday, 1 January 2006 13:43 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, there was a year when it was cancelled (1992, possibly) because he was fed up with all the white boys with guitars...

― Mippy (Mippy), Monday, 2 January 2006 21:33 (twenty years ago)

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