What is Post Rock?

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im having a little trouble with this concept, i first saw of it on allmusic as the genre that cursive is, but i always thought cursive was emo. explain!

(and please, dont feel the need to inform me that you hate cursive or think Tim Kasher is a whiny prick. blah blah blah.)

― JD from CDepot, Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

If Cursive is post-rock, I have no idea what post-rock is.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:15 (twenty years ago)

These threads are all pretty good:

what is post-rock - seriously?
Are post-rock bands [just] jam-bands?
Class, etc. pt. 4 - Did post-rock "kill" indie? (Also, did it realign the "rhythmic impulse" towards an alternative to funk-based rhythms?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)

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― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:21 (twenty years ago)

It's one of those terms that part of me never wants to hear again and yet part of me can't seem to do away with.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:23 (twenty years ago)

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― blount, Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)

damn you tracer hand!!!

― blount, Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)

Spirit of Eden

― Michael M (Grand Epic), Thursday, 6 January 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

What is post rock?

"Mailman, Bring me no more Blues"
"Please mister postman"
"The Letter"

― Ashamed IlXor, Thursday, 6 January 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)

"Return To Sender"
The Postal Service
"Postal Blowfish"

― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 07:11 (twenty years ago)

ah the old refrain

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 6 January 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

SPIDERLAND, baby.

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 6 January 2005 07:43 (twenty years ago)

I've actually seen Tortoise described as 'pre-post-rock'

― Seuss, Thursday, 6 January 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

What about Slint?

― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

What is post rock?

"Mailman, Bring me no more Blues"
"Please mister postman"
"The Letter"

I think this is the lost chapter of Chuck Eddy's Accidental Evolution of Rock'N'Roll.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

I've actually seen Tortoise described as 'pre-post-rock'

That doesn't make sense to me at all. I thought they were the post-rock post-er children. (OMG too many levels working at once; wasn't Johnny Herndon in the Poster Children?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

(But seriously, pre-post-rock is like Talk Talk and Slint, yeah.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

I had this weird setup for a while where I left four bossa nova CDs and one For Carnation CD in the changer for a long period of time but always forgot about the For Carnation one until it came on. It was always a little jarring but kind of a nice surprise.

― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 08:27 (twenty years ago)

haha pre-post-rock!

wouldn't This Heat be pre-post-rock (and Family Fodder pre-Stereolab)

― artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Best Post-Rock Album of 2004:

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― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

GMftPO is just good, stoned psych/space rock. 'post' how?

― echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I would be curious to know who is making good post-rock these days. A lot of the usual suspects seem to have their best days behind them.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

It's very technical proggy jazzy and, most important, Tortoise-like to these ears. xpost

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

ok, they seem more prog/space - maybe Hawkwind meets Gong, but Japanese - than post-rock. tomato, tomahto.

― echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

I tried to listen to Post-rock once but the Tortoise record I had messed up my turntable so I had to take it off. Maybe I should try again.

― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

But wait... I was listening to a CD!!!

― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Their record isn't out yet, but my friend's band Cougar (http://www.cougarsound.com) is quite good.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

ok, they seem more prog/space - maybe Hawkwind meets Gong, but Japanese - than post-rock. tomato, tomahto.

I think it's the drums - they sound like Doug Scharin a la Directions in Music. The production overall. I don't know, I just don't consider it the same genre as Acid Mother/Les Rallizes/High Rise. It's not sloppy enough. But you're right, it's a matter of semantics and a small distinction!

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

France is pretty much post-rock central right now, with Mobiil, Tank, Bed, Ueh and Frédéric's various projects on Maison Drole ("And the Giant Robots," remueh, and qui are all very good), Simon Quéheillard, Ultra Milkmaids, Discom, Mils, Gel/Dorine Muraille, Anne Laplantine, and the rest of the Gooom, Active Suspension, and Clapping Music crews all honoring various post-rock fires, from free-riff rock to electro-acoustic pop.

― echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

i havent heard their new album yet but Turing Machine (feat memebers of Pitchblende) is good

― artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

I'd consider some of the stuff on Temporary Residence Limited post rock.

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

LATELY, I've heard the term used to describe bands like Explosions in the Sky, Godspeed, Six Parts Seven, etc — y’know; big, instrumental, sort of classically-influenced shit that uses rock instruments to achieve its imposing height and bloated song lengths.

Often the term is linked to another: “experiemental.” Tortoise, Bark Psychosis, etc. are also known as post-rock. So, basically, it’s a nice little umbrella idiom to catch anything that is rock without being rock, or using rock instruments in any sort of "NON-ROCK" way.

And Cursive isn't post-rock. You could sort of get away with calling them post-hardcore, but I dunno. They're pretty definitively emo.

― Mackey, Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

Euphone is post-rocky, and so is Ui.

― Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

some of the guys from euphone just hooked up with maura davis, who used to sing for denali. their project is called bella lea and it is not post rock at all, but fucking gorgeous.

― Mackey, Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

You mean Post-Gorgeous, right?

― Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Friday, 7 January 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

It's more meta-gorgeous.

― Mackey, Friday, 7 January 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

"havent heard their new album yet but Turing Machine (feat memebers of Pitchblende) is good"

I just saw them open for Battles. The bassist and drummer were awesome but the guitar parts were kind of boring. It would make good dance music actually because it's fast and tight and the songs go on for a long time without the beat getting too complicated.

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 7 January 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

I still fucking haven't heard Turing Machine, goddammit. And I loves me some A. Justin Chearno (the guitarist). And I know their drummer kicks ass 'cause I've seen him in other bands about town.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)

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― Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Friday, 7 January 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

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