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There’s nothing inherently wrong with cross-referencing in general; it’s basically just an admission that for lots of people listening to certain music actually winds up forming a component part of their lives as a whole, and as such becomes fair play for lyric-writing. The only reason I don’t like this one is because I’ve never been that into Husker Du and I’m not sure what Gram Parsons is doing in there with the rest of the references.

Still the untrained, twee vocal kinda grates on me.

EXACTLY! K Records = Krap magnet, in my book.

They have Deerhoof and The Advantage, who I like alot.

Don't Touch My Bikini' is better than it really oughta be. Everything else by the Halo Benders is ass.

Calvin's also got a really good relationship with Steve Fisk, which always pumps K above other indie labels IMHO. The Steve Fisk Over And Thru The Night CD is priceless. That Duck Hunt 7" (Duck Hunt being half of Pell Mell, w/ Steve Fisk) from 1991 almost invented jungle/drum 'n' bass practically.

Karp as well.

Heavenly/Marine Research were on K. I dunno... I dug a lot of Lois Maffeo's stuff. I think One Foot in the Grave is one of the better Beck records (though I may be alone on that one).

dc is right tho... K has done some terrific reissues and compy things over the years. They stuck all the early Built to Spill singles on one CD, which was great, the Steve Fisk stuff is great, they did that big Talulah Gosh collection...

ILM in general thinks they are like real evil and eat the babies of fun, from what I gather.

but then you listen to it, and get disqualified so you have to give it back.

sorry.

The Shins are great. Dissing The Shins is like kicking a puppy.

but then you listen to it, and get disqualified so you have to give it back.

Don't worry, there should be no short supply of Beat Happening CDs seeing as how even a lot of fans are gonna be unloading them now that the box set's out.

haha!! I like the Shins, but that's fucking hilarious. I think I'm going to nick it and use it in conversations outside ILM.

Well, I listened to The Blow song, and -- well -- it blows... badly.

Find the most fillerish track off the entire catalog of $5 Teenbeat Records Sampler comps, and it will be 10 times better than this song..

I really hope this song is a departure for The Blow, because otherwise I'd come to their house and just tell them "Guys, please, I'm crying here.. just TRY, dammit, TRY!"

Hmmm... I think I'd be more inclined to say Pinback = The Shins. Pinback are definitely better musicians, but I'm willing to bet The Shins will suprise us more in the future. Pinback seems to be sticking to same song template that they use on each album. What's fustrating is that, given all of their side projects, I know they can do more and throw us some curve balls, yet they seem to be content to just stick to what is expected of them.

But, sure, I'm betting the Shins would be the first band to make the more radical departure. That could be good or bad. So far, in all Shins releases for me, it's been zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

This song is 1) about three years old and 2) a cover of a Wolf Colonel song (which maybe makes the cross-referencing worse, I don't know) and doesn't have a whole lot in common with the recent stuff.

Anyway, I've never understood indie pop hatred. It seems so easy to just ignore.

Some of the greatest indie pop/potential radio crossover stuff ever made completely flew over the radar of both camps: Slabco records. Land Of The Loops is a perfect example of a genius indie popster who knew exactly how to cross over into pop and dance territory, and unfortunately got damned with too faint praise for it.

And not liking something because it's bad is logic I won't argue with.

except for Lonesome Sundown but yeah

Christ, I must of been in a really bad mood when I started this thread.

Popular music has always been a notoriously conservative genre, one in which the slightest deviation from the norm — whether in song structure, song length or instrumentation — is often dismissed as gross self-indulgence, even self-sabotage. The so-called alternative-rock scene of the ’90s — exemplified by bands like Pavement, the Breeders and Nirvana — was actually, from a musical standpoint, surprisingly orthodox: the dominance of traditional verse-chorus-verse song structures, and the standard rock lineup — bass, guitar, drums — went largely uncontested. But in the last few years there has been a gravitation from tried-and-true rock paradigms, driven both by boredom with the increasingly threadbare conventions of indie rock and by a sincere, if playful, rediscovery of experimentalists as diverse as Van Dyke Parks and Philip Glass. And it’s no surprise that many of the boldest of these, like Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti, Half-handed Cloud and Ghostband, are essentially one-person projects that don’t require too much consensus about what a song should be.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/magazine/18bands-t.html

listening to this today. i play it, like, once a year. and i always love it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Howitfeelstobesomethingon.jpg

What record is that, scott?

I don't actually think dude is a sock but I gotta get in on the img fest

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/66970cfd41def737f07c5f3982b77f47/2265477.jpg

sunny day real estate - how it feels to be something on

Who are you talking about J0hn, me or the guy who started the thread?

Thanks, scott. I'm going to check that out!

where did my img go it was funny

repost it yo

oh where did my image go...dear liza dear liza

http://www.normanrecords.com/images/covers/d-thumbs/107335_thumb.jpg

when i was little, i would sing this to myself when i was alone:

Did you eever, ever, iver,
In your leaf, life, loaf
See the deevil, devil, divil
Kiss his weef, wife, woaf?
No, I neever, never, niver
In my leaf, life, loaf
Saw the deevil, devil, divil
Kiss his weef, wife, woaf.

kids I used to work with had a similar thing about how they like to eat eat eat eeples and baneenees

I trust they are all millionaires now

Started back in '83
Started seeing things differently
And hardcore wasn't doin' it for me no more
Started smoking pot
Thought things sounded better slow
Much slower, heavier
Black magic melody to sink this poseur's soul

VU Stooges undeniably cool
Took a lesson from that drone rock school
Manipulate musicians hack righteous drool
Getting loose with the Pussy Galore
Cracking jokes like a Thurston Moore
Pedal hopping like a Dinosaur, J...

Rock and Roll genius, ride the middle of the road
Milk that sound, blow your load
Shoot it further than you ever said it'd go
Four stars in the Rolling Stone

Oooh sludge rock,
That's hard as harsh
Just gimme indie rock!
It's gone big
Come on indie rock
Just give me indie rock

Taking inspiration from Husker Du
It's a new generation
Of electric white boy blues
Come on indie rock
It's gone big
Come on indie rock
Just give me indie rock

Breaking down the barriers
Like Sonic Youth
They got what they wanted
Maybe I can get what I want too
Come on indie rock
It's gone big
Come on indie rock
Just give me indie rock

Time to knock
The hard rock on it's side
Time to knock
The shit right up a storm
Turn to amaze
With the indie sludge
Grunge!
Aaah!

I'm not sure LyricsMania got these words quite right but fuck it, just gimme indie rock

gimme college rock?

I thought it said "It's got a beat!" at one point, but wut do i know

http://cdn.stereogum.com/img/indie_rock_trivia-underwear1.jpg

book looks fine to me

Mmm college rock.

Yeah Scott How It Feels is worthy of love.

sometimes i feel about indie rock like i feel about the nfl: love the game, hate the crowds

i listened to a belle and sebastian album today and i don't know how to feel about it

depends entirely on which one it was

sometimes i feel about indie rock like i feel about the nfl: love the game, hate the crowds

― access flap (omar little), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:08 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

^^^
BOOMING post

beardo panties picture is epically indie rock, but I'm thinking it might be more indie rock in 2008 than indie rock in 2009

1998-2003 iirc.

i listened to a belle and sebastian album today and i don't know how to feel about it

― how rad bandit (gbx)

depends entirely on which one it was

― would s*m*a*s*h (electricsound)

Suggested reactions may include hatred, veiled hatred, slowly surfacing hatred, rationalized hatred, strong hatred, seething hatred and/or devastating hatred.

sometimes i feel about indie rock like i feel about the nfl: love the game, hate the crowds

― access flap (omar little), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:08 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

troof bomb

Of what musical genres would 'hate the game, love the crowd' be true?

Of what musical genres would 'hate the game, love the crowd' be true?

For me, it's the Manic Street Preachers.

I tend to get along really really well with their fans, love the aesthetic, tons of my friends love 'em - I just can't stomach the music. I really wish I could.

i think generally speaking crappy northside chicago blues bands have a fanbase that's usually fun to hang around with if you feel like shooting some pool and having a few beers.

usually i'm ambivalent at worst about the crowds. maybe it's because i live in l.a. but i feel like the indie scene's been taken over by fashion holocausts trying to blow your mind with how smug and sleazy they can be.

this is my kinda crowd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_y9S7vB0qM

hahaha, i LOVE that video. steve is an animalllllll!!!!

i swear i'm not even sneering. it just makes me laugh.

I never really understood why Aoki gets so much hate on the Erol forum, but that video kinda makes me want to punch him a little bit, too.

I dunno who he is, but he gets mega hate on just about every forum I'm on.

sometimes i feel about indie rock like i feel about the nfl: love the game, hate the crowds

― access flap (omar little), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:08 AM (25 minutes ago)

this is otm except baseball, not nfl

I forgot about this thread (The Blow still suck).

It's been my experience over the last few years that I don't have any super negative feelings towards indie bands until I see them on Austin City Limits.

Exhibit A

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/91/247895945_71a8327aa7.jpg

Exhibit B

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/deafindieelephants/afpsbacl.jpg

whatever happened to that sufjan guy? he was all the rage for a minute there. did he join a monastery?

he's still working on his album about oregon

"After this, it's either the barrel of a pistol or the foot of a cross" --JK Huysmans

sufjan stevens is wayyyyyyyyyy behind schedule for the 50 states thing

he'll get back to it when he's done counting his money

Just think of all the bird wings you could buy with that $$$

Oh, just because Sugban's a white guy he automatically likes bird wings? Sheesh.

all races love chicken wings

How are the Residents doing with their "American Composers" series? Last I saw, it ran to Souza, James Brown, and Hank Williams.

Ha, just checked: They stalled doing the "Sun-Ra" one and packed the whole idea...

Unenthusiastic reviews, the transition from vinyl to CD (meaning that the concept of a split album would be spoiled) and re-negotiation of the songwriting fees (making the project financially impossible) scuppered the series.

Why does nobody attempt the "double 3inch CD set" idea I had back whenever?

They were planning to do Harry Partch and Harry Nilsson, which would have been AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh WOW that would have been...