New Oasis Album, does ANYONE still care?

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I'm looking forward to hearing whatever they're doing. While I know they're sorta obsolete now, I can't help but thing some of the anti-Oasis sentiment is a bit overplayed. The standard idea of them absolutely sucking past (Whats the Story) Morning Glory? I think might be a bit too harsh. To be fair, its much downhill, and as a band, they never really "grew," just became more produced and less "edgy" (a fate seen/heard far too often in music).
SotSoG and Heathen Chemistry were both enjoyable enough albums, but largely just build off of the Morning Glory formula. Wouldn't give the albums much for originality, but I don't think they're particularly disagreeable other than their lack of anything new. I'm looking forward to seeing how they've evolved in the last 4 years.

― Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Saturday, 5 February 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)

"D'You Know What I Mean" and "Go Let It Out" were great singles, it's just that the rest of the songs on those albums were bloated and/or unlistenable.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 5 February 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I'll agree with the "bloated" comment. I never found the albums really bad, though admit they're nothing spectacular either. I sometimes wonder if artists know they're doing something bad, or what? I'm sure in their minds, its all brilliant (especially being egomaniacs like the Gallaghers), and the overdone, bloated aspects of the albums to them were probably this wonderful wall of sound. Its a strange thing, when you think about just how awful some songs/albums/artists may be, yet in their eyes, its the best thing ever.

― Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Saturday, 5 February 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

To paraphrase Charlie Brooker: "Do you and your idiot loudmouth brother deserve to be suddenly and inexplicably killed by a man armed with a hammer, cracking you on the skull right there at the mixing desk as you launch into your dismal fucking recording session? Would it give music lovers a sigh of nigh-on sexual pleasure to see you slumped face-first across the faders with blood bubbling from the back of your head, its gurgling blending with the sound of an endless Status Quo-like guitar solo, while your malfunctioning synapses cause your limbs to shudder and pop in a grotesquely comic dance of death? Then Jools Fucking Holland and his production team would like to hear from you. Call now on 090 239595322."

― Momus (Momus), Saturday, 5 February 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

I love the title of this thread.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 5 February 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

im looking forward to it, from the interview on NME.com Noel says that his stuff is very influenced by Dylan. Which is wierd to say the least, so im pretty curious.

― JD from CDepot, Saturday, 5 February 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

New Oasis Album in May 2005

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 5 February 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

Oasis has always been a very boring, vapid band.

― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 5 February 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

OTM

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 5 February 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

Oasis has always been a very boring, vapid band.

Yeah, but, that's always been their beauty.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 5 February 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

I thought their beauty was that they were British and had moptops and quoted Beatles lyrics.

(I do like one or two ballads)

― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 5 February 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I mean, to answer the thread title's question: Not really. But at least their antics were more interesting than, say, Pete Doughtery's drug addiction.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 5 February 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

I think the chorus of "D'ya Know What I Mean" perfectly sums up Oasis's mission statement, which is, of course, nothing at all. "All my people right here right now - d'ya know what I mean?" - isn't there a missing line in the middle there?

It's like when they sing "don't put your life in the hands / of a rock and roll band" - it's laughable. Like, don't worry, buddy! "Fuck you, mom and dad, I'm leaving this fucking place, and it's all because of a song called "She's Electric," but you wouldn't understand that, either, so fuck off!" See, with Oasis, the message is the non-message.

All this said, I still rather enjoy Morning Glory.

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 5 February 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

Oasis is kinda like a rotten apple. It looks all brown and nasty, but smells sickly sweet and one can't help taking a big ole chomp on it even though one knows it will taste horrible.

― Stinky McGee, Saturday, 5 February 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

from the interview on NME.com Noel says that his stuff is very influenced by Dylan

so: an idiot is taking songwriting tips from a charlatan. that figures. still, the very idea of this is enough to drive me to suicide. i will have to actively avoid this album at all costs now.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 5 February 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

I liked when they were fighting Blur. Was there any question Blur destroyed these assholes?

― dxvzsfhbf, Monday, 7 February 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

If the single is good, then I'll check out the rest of it, but I'm not holding my breath for something amazing. Which is odd really, because it shouldn't be that hard to write a catchy Oasis song.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

According to a press release I just got, they're scheduled to headline Madison Square Garden (with Jet opening) in June--tix range from $34 to $75. Which is completely insane, because they couldn't sell out MSG for half those prices when they were popular.

― michaeln (kid loki), Monday, 7 February 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

anyone see Ian Brown's 'Time Is My Everything' video featuring Noel? Brownie almost turns into Liam with his facial expressions and posturing (tho Liam sort of stole the monkey swagger off him in the first place). if it had actually been an Oasis song it would've been pretty well received i figure.

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Monday, 7 February 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

I kinda like the new Ian Brown album... a lot.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

I thought that vid was "Keep what you got"? Which did quite well anyway...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

Moyles played Some Might Say this morning - it was ace, because it's fucking stupid. Check out these lyrics;

Some might say that sunshine follows thunder
Go and tell it to the man who cannot shine
Some might say that we should never ponder
On our thoughts today cos they will sway over time
Some might say we will find a brighter day
Some might say we will find a brighter day

Cos I've been standing at the station
In need of education in the rain
You made no preparation for my reputation once again
The sink is full of fishes
She's got dirty dishes on the brain
It was overflowing gently but it's all elementary my friend

Some might say they don't believe in heaven
Go and tell it to the man who lives in hell
Some might say you get what you've been given
If you don't get yours I won't get mine as well

Some might say we will find a brighter day
Some might say we will find a brighter day

Cos I've been standing at the station
In need of education in the rain
You made no preparation for my reputation once again
The sink is full of fishes
Cos she's got dirty dishes on the brain
And my dog's been itchin'
Itchin' in the kitchen once again

Some might say
Some might say
Some might say
Some might say

Oasis were good when they ridiculous and desperate to get out of Burnage. As soon as they started thinking they were A Serious Rock Band, they got rubbish. Cocaine, kids, it's shite.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

I mean that passage is loaded with fucking fantastic vocal hooks - it's genius.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

they still rock
album ratings
1 6/10
2 8/10
3 7/10
4 6.5/10
5 5/10

heathen chemistry had 2 brilliant songs, 2 great songs and the rest were ok....
aren't liam and ian influenced by mick jagger anyway ?

― La Camilla Henemark, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

sorry yes the Brown single was 'Keep What You Got'. my point was tho that i think people would've been more excited about it if it had actually been an Oasis song, and it could've been...but nothing on the new Oasis album will even sound as good as that i'm figuring.

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

Late April is the tenth anniversary of Oasis mattering a damn: the release of 'Some Might Say' b/w 'Headshrinker' and 'Acquiesce'. Ten years.

― Miles Finch, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

Nice to know I had a ten year head-start on ppl only now realising they're moronic crap.

― mei (mei), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

What irks me is that La's/XTC/World Party never got the acclaim even though they deserve it, and Oasis/Blur got the acclaim even though they don't deserve it.
Though, by now, I hope the rest of the world has figured this out by now.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 12 February 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)

I bought the first two and played 'em to death, the third I bought and played twice and sold. I don't think I've heard a single note from Oasis' post-'97 work.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 12 February 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)

when did world party deserve acclaim? 'message in the box' was played more than enough to irritate most everyone.

― keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 12 February 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)

That was the weakest track on an otherwise excellent album.
No, I'm not kidding.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 12 February 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

Way Down Now was a much stronger single.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Saturday, 12 February 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

that's the only World Party song I know.

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Sunday, 13 February 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)

Well, I still like those first three Oasis albums (and a lot of the b-sides from that era) a lot. They wrote some good songs. I rarely want to hear them these days, but I have a lot of affection for those tunes.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 13 February 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

I kind of wish I'd seen them on tour with the Black Crowes - it would be like seeing the world's best bar bands.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 13 February 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)

Hmmmm.
Quick Survey
TS: Black Crowes vs. Oasis?

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 13 February 2005 07:11 (twenty years ago)

Oasis in a heartbeat. When you consider what the state of modern rock radio was like in the mid 90's in the US, Oasis really were a good band. They made enjoyable, easily digestable faux-retro britpop records that translated well in the US. They made the leap that Blur was never able to make. If you don't like it you are taking it way too seriously, they didn't make those kind of records.

Oddly enough, I hate the black crowes with a passion for doing the same thing with black music.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Sunday, 13 February 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm pretty sure you're skipping a generation in regard to the Crowes. The people they were ripping off were ripping off black music.

The Black Crowes seem like they'd be better live (the Robinsons apparently gave a damn) and they had better grooves, so the Crowes all the way.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 13 February 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

It is like ersatz english pop vs. 2nd gen ersatz grooves.

I believe that you can totally fake songcraft, but you can't fake a solid, in the pocket feel. You can make 2nd hand chord progressions work, but you cannot emulate the feel that made the original ideas work in the first place then you have nothing.

Besides, The Black Crowes appealed to hippies looking for "real" music values, while Oasis just wanted coke and beejeers in the backs of limos.

I have just invoked rockism on ILM, therefore you can no longer refute anything I say unless you want to be seen as a rockist. You are not a rockist are you?

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Sunday, 13 February 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

Heathen Chemistry had the most embarassing song ever, an almost note-for-note ripoff of "Roadhouse Blues" with even crappier lyrics. I think it was by the brother who usually doesn't write lyrics, whichever that was.
I kind of wish I'd seen them on tour with the Black Crowes - it would be like seeing the world's best bar bands.

-- milozauckerman (wooderso...), February 13th, 2005.
do you mean "put yer money where your mouth is(your hands behind the wheel)" from lp 4 "standing on the shoulders of giants "? it is very similar and there must be some differences.

― La Camilla Henemark, Sunday, 13 February 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

when did world party deserve acclaim? 'message in the box' was played more than enough to irritate most everyone.
-- keith m (keythkeyt...), February 12th, 2005.
i liked "ship of fools " and robbie willaims had a big hit with"she's the one"

― La Camilla Henemark, Sunday, 13 February 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

regardless what you think it's hard to argue against the sentiment that they're one of the most bland, by-the-numbers live bands ever.

― a, Sunday, 13 February 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

Oops.

http://img102.exs.cx/img102/5290/oasis8ja.jpg

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 19 February 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

This is incredibly sad, but what would it take to get a copy of that (or at least some of the highlights, if indeed there are any)?

― carson dial (carson dial), Saturday, 19 February 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Why James, you HEARTLESS criminal. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 February 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Yeah James, sup.

― 57 7th (calstars), Saturday, 19 February 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

ooh!

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

“It’s done now. We master it tomorrow and it’s out on May 26,” confirmed Gallagher, suggesting that a possible title for the record could be ‘The Ear Has No Memory’.

Worst title ever?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

"Is it worth the aggravation, to find yourself a job when there's nothing worth working for? DISCUSS"

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

'Lost' Oasis single sneaks on new singles collection 'Time Flies' after all

Two-disc set looks like it will include a special secret track

April 12, 2010 |

Oasis' new compilation album 'Time Flies' will include 'Sunday Morning Call', despite it initally appearing that the 2000 single was going to be omitted from the career-spanning release.

The song was initially missing from the compilation's tracklisting, which features every other Oasis single since the band's 1994 debut 'Supersonic'.

However, on promotional copies of the collection 'Sunday Morning Call' features as a unannounced secret track at the end of the second disc of the compilation, coming after the band's final single 'Falling Down', which came out last year.

It is believed this will be the same for the final version of the record.

The Noel Gallagher-sung track, taken from Oasis' 'Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants' album, charted at Number 4 in July 2000.

'Time Flies' will be released on June 14. The cover artwork is a shot of one of Oasis' Knebworth gigs in 1996.

The full tracklisting for 'Time Flies' is:

CD1:
'Supersonic'
'Roll With It'
'Live Forever'
'Wonderwall'
'Stop Crying Your Heart Out'
'Cigarettes & Alcohol'
'Songbird'
'Don’t Look Back In Anger'
'The Hindu Times'
'Stand By Me'
'Lord Don’t Slow Me Down'
'Shakermaker'
'All Around The World'

CD2:
'Some Might Say'
'The Importance of Being Idle'
'D'You Know What I Mean?'
'Lyla'
'Let There Be Love'
'Go Let It Out'
'Who Feels Love?'
'Little By Little'
'The Shock Of The Lightning'
'She Is Love'
'Whatever'
'I’m Outta Time'
'Falling Down' /'Sunday Morning Call' (secret track)

― Mark G, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

I could have sworn they released a "best of" only a year or two ago?

― musically, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

They did, but it was four years ago. Stop the Clocks.

― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

It was a 2CD thing as well, and you can get it for a fiver in most HMV places.

This adds some singles, removes LP only tracks, and the singles from Dig Yr Own Soul.

The anticipation level is...

― Mark G, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

yeah. think of all the classic material they've dropped since then.

― Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

Lol at a singles collection having one of the singles as a hidden track

― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

wonder if there's a logic to the sequencing or

― Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

'Lost' Oasis single

That's not even nearly true! But kudos to their marketeers for managing to make me laugh at least.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

Instructions on CD insert: "First, throw away CD2. Then place CD1 in CD player. Listen to tracks 1-4. Press skip to jump over track 5. Listen to intro of track 6 while saying 'hey this sounds like that T Rex song'. Stop CD player. Eject CD1. Realise you're rapidly approaching middle age."

― Convenience Fish (snoball), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

Well, "Lord don't slow me down" was a download only single. So, that, possibly.

(xpost)

― Mark G, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

it got to #4

don't think i've ever heard it

― Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

Just did a quick count: All 27 singles are there (one double A side)

― Mark G, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

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