The Nashville Scene's Country Music Critics Poll

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I don't know if anyone's started a thread on this, but here are the results to The Nashville Scene's Country Music Critics Poll.

Loretta Lynn's Van Lear Rose, which won, got on my own ballot on the strength of her songwriting and her appealing personality, but probably wouldn't have if I'd listened to more country albums. Simply put, her voice is shot, and while this doesn't undermine her expressiveness altogether, it gets in the way. She's not one to make art out of the ravages of her throat.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 13 February 2005 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Wouldn't say it was *shot. She sounds old, but perky, like Merle and Willie.

don, Sunday, 13 February 2005 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

that record is totally fucking boring

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Sunday, 13 February 2005 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

interesting. country includes the Drive-By Truckers and Jack White, but not Randy Travis?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 13 February 2005 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I got invited to vote in this and embarrassingly hadn't listened to enough country music in '04 to cast a ballot. One goal for '05 is to remedy that.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 13 February 2005 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

gabbneb, what the hell are you talking about with your Randy Travis, his album didn't come out till late in the year and didn't make much of a splash at all; are you anti-country or anti-critic, either way you're not really paying much attention so what do you care?

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 13 February 2005 06:19 (twenty-one years ago)

er? no, i'm not paying much attention, i'll give you that. maybe i just didn't like all of the categories with interchangeable players. but since when is it anti-country to like Randy Travis or anti-critic to big up an album that "didn't make much of a splash"?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 13 February 2005 06:47 (twenty-one years ago)

that's what I'm trying to figure out...are you saying "where's all the love for that great singer Randy Travis?" (which I doubt) or are you all "gosh darn it, country music ain't no good if there's them rock people in it" (in which case, why do you care)? cause either way you just came to complain

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 13 February 2005 06:50 (twenty-one years ago)

This was a good year from George Strait, but I don't remember him making the poll

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Sunday, 13 February 2005 06:54 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah but his only album this year was a greatest hits record

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 13 February 2005 06:55 (twenty-one years ago)

So shouldn't it follow that he pwned them all?

Huk-L, Sunday, 13 February 2005 06:58 (twenty-one years ago)

That's right. Still, not poll-worthy?

I almost won tickets to see him.

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Sunday, 13 February 2005 06:59 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, i'm most certainly saying "where's all the love for that great singer Randy Travis?" whose record I haven't heard. though i won't deny that there's a touch of "why is that mean Jack White in the poll." I like what I've heard of the DBTs lots, and don't object to rock in my country, but they do seem a bit out of place.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 13 February 2005 06:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm just trying to comprehend why the records that made it made it. If Alan, why not Randy? Get me?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 13 February 2005 07:01 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i didn't vote for Alan Jackson either, I hate "Remember When"

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 13 February 2005 07:04 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a weird poll.

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Sunday, 13 February 2005 07:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Alan's still making big hits, it doesn't seem like Randy is. but I get most of my info from CMT, though, so for all I know he could have a big radio hit but just hasn't shot a video for it.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 February 2005 07:07 (twenty-one years ago)

he gets a nod from radio every now and then but he's hardly a factor really.

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 February 2005 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

What's weird about the poll? The results seem to cover a pretty good spread of trad/alt/top 40 country. DBTs are basically a rock band, true, but so's a lot of stuff that gets labeled alt-country for want of a better place to put it.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 13 February 2005 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

(and in the category of things I don't get, I'd have to put that Jon Dee Graham album -- I bought it out of curiosity 'cuz it placed way high in the year-end No Depression poll, and it just doesn't do anything for me...oh well)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 13 February 2005 07:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, the poll definitely represents critics tastes, and most critics aren't in the prime audience for country (just as most of them aren't in the prime audience for hip-hop, for rock, for metal, for anything that isn't alt or indie). Btw, I think Montgomery Gentry, Toby Keith, Big & Rich, and Gretchen Wilson (to name a few) rock a lot harder than do either the Drive By Truckers or Loretta Lynn/Jack White. That's not a criticism of the latter, but may have something to do with why they didn't rank as high on my list.

(Matt, you're being unnecessarily rough on gabbneb.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 13 February 2005 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Don, the "old" in Loretta's voice gives it a tremor that takes it out of key and takes away its presence - I actually have trouble listening to it for more than a few songs in a row. The shoes song is my favorite, 'cause that's the one she talks rather than sings.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 13 February 2005 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

rocking harder isn't the same as being more rock though

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 February 2005 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

and critics aren't the prime audience for indie really

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 February 2005 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, I mean the DBTs are more of a "rock band" than Montgomery Gentry (and that's not a criticism of either one of them).

xpost:
Well, the p/j poll definitely indicates more enthusiasm for things alt/indie than anything else in particular (half the top 10 albums, FF topping the singles poll, etc.).

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 13 February 2005 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

indie and alt may be the prime music for crits but that don't mean crits are the prime audience for indie and alt!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 February 2005 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, right. Gotta hope nobody's prime audience is critics -- not much bank.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 13 February 2005 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Frank you got a better ear than I do no fair. Anyway I voted for her(as did Frank) and for Alan Jackson's "Monday Morning Church"sung from the viewpoint of a guy with a crisis of faith and of everything after his wife dies), and for the Truckers and for George Strait's FIFTY NUMBER ONE HITS (Alan's track is worthy of George at his best, and that's saying a lot). I might have voted for Randy's album if I'd heard it). My ballot's comments (not the list, so far) are posted (and spruced up past what I dumped on y'all, Frank 'n' 'Puss) at http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com. Gnight young lovers wherever you are.

don, Sunday, 13 February 2005 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont think the loretta album is as awful as i did when i first heard it, and it has some decent tracks, but i do think her voice is trashed, as happens when you have been singing none stop both sick and well for years, and i think this is a sentimental choice.

gretchen wilson's is a solid honky tonk album that might actual deserve the hype, b/c she actually can sing a cheating song and a drinking song, skills that have been lost to minimalls.

the drive by truckers are most defintley country, and this was my album of the year, its v. good, v. hard to listen to emotionally, v. well performed, and v. much informed by the history and the present of country (see carl perkins cadilliac)

i think alan jackson sings v. well, one of the best voices in country, the songs need work, esp. remember when

alsion kraus has got to figure out if she wants to play blue g rass or be the next faith hill, if she decides on faith hill (which i think she is headed to) shes not worth the time, if she decides on blue grass she will be as good as jean richie

dont know wha to think of the new steve earle, a bit too obvious, a bit too agit prop, and there were some really strange racial politics on his condi song which kind of ruined the album for me

much to my shame i havent heard the tift merrit or the cherry bomnbs.

am pleased as punch about julie roberts, am bored to tears by kieth urban, think tha iris dement should be given all of the heartbreaking hard solos that emmy lou harris has been given--esp. by bright eyes.

neko case is v. v. v. good, and her albums go from strength to strenght and this one, with its incidnary (sp) cover of rated x needed to be much higher

singles

red neck women--the scary thing is there are 4 or 5 tracks on this album that are btter then red neck, and a couple of singles.

whiskey lullaby is kind of silly when you think about it, but the way the voices work together, and the way things are pulled apart--it proves that brad paisley is deeply under rated as a solo artist, and needs to be pulled higher

alan jackson bothers me, and i think its because i feel worn out--nostalgia is the achilles heel of this shit, and done badly it just aches, which is a bother, because i think his is a voice thats amazing.

sara evans is the best single of the year for me, hands down.

tim mcgraw can now fuck off and look pretty, much like his wife--this is a truck commerical and his ego is getting in the way

the mindy smith i am wrting about for the jesus book, and i owe someone a biblio so if they want to get back to me i will mail that out.

i love the teri clark single, and love her in general, but her new one seems ill advised (dui convictions proably dont need a drink)

josh turner will return the basso profundo to the right place, if god is just and the world is willing

lee ann womack is the closest we've gotten to patsy in years, and it breaks my heart and its clever enough withou being too clever, and im really really glad she is going in the direction she is going

can someone explain kieth urban to me ?

kenny chesney needs to sing more, and he needs to sing more ballads because his voice is just so beautiful, but i could do with out the product placement (though i am glad he is moving onto the age approite)

anthony, Sunday, 13 February 2005 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Don, you're probably right. Gabbneb, I apologize; I thought you were being condescending about the poll (which I voted in) so I condescended to you, and that was wrong.

Anthony E: I don't agree with every one of your points, but damn if you don't hammer that nail pretty nicely.

This was my ballot in the poll just so everyone knows where I'm at, sorry if I've posted this before:

TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2004:
1. Allison Moorer, The Duel (Sugar Hill)
2. Los Tigres del Norte, Pacto de Sangre (Fonovisa)
3. Charlie Robison Good Times (Dualtone)
4. Gretchen Wilson,, Here for the Party (Sony Music Nashville)
5. Big & Rich, Horse of a Different Color (Warner Bros.)
6. Loretta Lynn, Van Lear Rose (Interscope)
7. Joni Harms, Let's Put the Western Back in the Country (Wildcatter)
8. Mark Chesnutt, Savin' the Honky Tonk (Vivaton)
9. Polo Urias y su Maquina Nortena, En La Cumbre (Fonovisa)
10. J.J. Cale, To Tulsa and Back (Sanctuary Records Group)

TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2004:
1. Los Tigres del Norte, "Jose Perez Leon" (Fonovisa)
2. Anthony Hamilton, "Charlene" (Arista)
3. Sara Evans, "Suds in the Bucket" (RCA)
4. Big & Rich "Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy)" (Warner Bros.)
5. Gretchen Wilson, "Redneck Woman" (Sony Nashville)
6. The Notorious Cherry Bombs, "It's Hard to Kiss the Lips at Night that Chew Your Ass Out All Night Long" (Universal South)
7. Marco Antonio Solis, "Mi Mayor Sacrificio" (Fonovisa)
8. Trent Willmon, "Beer Man" (Sony)
9. Gretchen Wilson, "Here for the Party" (Sony Nashville)
10. Tracy Lawrence, "Paint Me a Birmingham" (Dreamworks)

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 13 February 2005 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh I mean FRANK you're probably right. Don's always right too.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 13 February 2005 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted in this; I was not surprised by the results. I think the Loretta album isn't great--I like "Portland, Oregon." Tift Merritt made #9--that isn't even close to being a "country" album, it's kinda lite-soul or something, she's trying to go Muscle Shoals/Memphis, and it's basically very boring. Competent, nice, she can sing all right, but I don't get it. Allison Moorer made #15--that's a really bad record, I think, sounds like fourth-generation Stones/Neil Young, sludgy, self-involved. And apart from her accent, it has zip to do with country musically; maybe the "themes" are. Todd Snider's record is nice, he writes some good songs, but it sounds like a demo to me. One of the things the Scene seemed to be interested in was "what was country and what was not" in '04, like, Drive-By Truckers? The point is, why in the fuck worry about it so much, what are you trying to preserve from what screaming hordes of which barbarians or whatever? Who gives a shit? Like any other form, country music is a candidate for intelligent revision or even explosion of form--and it's always interesting to see country records that have some arty little thing tucked away on the back end of the album, like Blake Shelton's "Barn & Grill" which has this strange almost Costello-like playlet thing about a bartender toward the end of the album. I just wish someone could marry the musical conservatism of country with something else that wasn't quite as blatant and novelty-esque as what Big & Rich found to graft onto "country." So, think about "folk music," received ideas of "form," and ponder, maybe. Heavy, baby, heavy.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 13 February 2005 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost Franknme can't both be right, Matt! I'm still your bitch, dammit! Say it! Eddd: B&R are Novelty-Plus, like Bobby D., Johnny C., Sun Ra, and any other pop artist (not just the biggies and richies). Conservative-plus is often done well by many at bloodshotrecords.com (for inst).There's been at least one country/folk thread, somewhat fardled by the Great Decemeber Site Crash, but still there. This pesky thread has led me to add mention of the above Alan Jackson track to my even more improved comments at http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/

don, Sunday, 13 February 2005 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

alsion kraus has got to figure out if she wants to play blue g rass or be the next faith hill

I dunno, I think Alison's made it pretty clear that her choice is somewhere between those. Even her early albums had covers that leaned toward Adult Contemporary. She seems to be comfortable where she is -- too comfortable, but that's more my problem than hers. I'd love her to cut loose a little more, in either direction (or both): make a straight-up fiery trad record, and then do a Mutt Lange production. But I don't think either of those are really in her. It's kinda too bad, because I do think she's one of only a handful of really great singers on the market right now -- but I guess that just means she'll remain someone whose singing I love more than her material.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 13 February 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

(if she'd wanted to be the next Faith Hill, she would've been -- she had the major labels lapping at her feet after she won all those Country Music awards, and she stayed with Rounder)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 13 February 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Montgomery Gentry don't just rock hard, when they want to they're hard rock, southern style, saturated in Skynyrd and Allmans and Daniels (not to mention Atlantic/Stax soul), but given an '80s AOR shine. Best alb is Carrying On, but crucial singles are "Gone" and "Lonely and Gone," which sneak girl-group 'n' early Motown unannounced into the Southern Heffalump. Really to me they're more rock than DBTs, though I suppose "rock" doesn't exclude much. DBT seem like folkies at heart (but then I loved folk-rock back in the day).

Critics - at least the ones most likely to vote in a poll such as this one - are more likely to be sent a Drive By Truckers advance than a Randy Travis advance, I think, since DBTs depend more on critics to get their word out, and critics are more likely to do them some good.

Edd, I don't understand your Tift Merritt comments. I thought the album was OK, Sheryl Crow its nearest reference point (though without Sheryl's hooks and songwriting). Given Emmy Lou and Eagles, don't see why she and Moorer wouldn't count as contemporary country w/ an alt "edge." And soul's been a crucial ingredient in a lot of country (Charlie Rich and on) since whenever. Blue-eyed soulsters like T. Graham Brown wouldn't have a market if not for country.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 13 February 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Frank, I don't think "Tambourine" is a bad record at all. But I don't get any sense of real urgency from it, why's she singin' at all? It sounds like a gloss on '70s singer-songwriterdom, and yep, that's a part of what Nashville does, I do not deny it. To my ears it's more like Lucinda Williams lite. I dunno about soul and country, or r&b and country, though. Charlie Rich albums like his early '70s "Fabulous" and "Boss Man" are certainly soulful, but they also didn't sell; they were made in Nashville but Charlie Rich was way outside the purview of what Nashville was doing back then. Later on he was straight countrypolitan--good in its way but such a fucking compromise. Glad he made his money (I revere Charlie Rich, by the way). Nashville has absorbed the influence of Stax and Muscle Shoals, just like they've made a lot of records that show someone there's been listening to a lot of '70s rock, but I think the aesthetics are way divergent. Nashville has plenty of soul-music fans but it is in no way a town with any real grasp of that stuff--it ain't Memphis nor is it Detroit. Too safe. And yeah, I do take into account people like T. Graham Brown and Milsap.

Call me old-fashioned; I prefer country with a screwed-up edge and Tift is just so bland. Again, no urgency, just well-crafted pop music (and she has only an elementary understanding of what made that Muscle Shoals/Stax music so interesting). To my ears, it's just a typical, perhaps generational thing: she came to "soul" thru Van Morrison or someone, or Bonnie Raitt. She talks about the influence of Dusty's Memphis sessions, but even "Dusty in Memphis" isn't really "soul" music, it's a fairly specific Memphis-style take on soul and pop, and Tift's backup doesn't approach the spareness and obliquity of the American Studios backing. Anyway, I don't really care about labels that much, if someone wants to call it "country" I say, sure--she is from North Carolina. I want something with a bit more give to it myself.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 13 February 2005 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Edd, even when I disagree with what you say (i.e. like Allison Moorer's record being crap even though I think it's the perfect example of "country with a screwed-up edge" and super-urgent and stuff) I love how you express yourself. I wish I was so reasonable and reasoned.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 13 February 2005 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Never been that crazy about most Moorer music (as opposed to words), but can't see how she doesn't have at least a thematic "edge," if we really must use that term, given the very unClear Channel sentiments on her latest. Van Morrison and Bonnie Raitt can be good influence, sif you go back aways in their catalogues (just a few decades, hey). Charlie Rich o yes, esp. on Sun, and more country-blues-soul fromEddie Hinton, Ike & Tina, Tony Joe, none of whom were Nashville per se, to put it mildly.

don, Sunday, 13 February 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, i feel like i've talked about this stuff (why i love big & rich, why the latest drive by truckers and alison moerer albums put me to sleep though i've liked both artists previously, why i love and hate montgomery gentry, why randy and alan and george have always kinda bored me give or take a song or two here and there, why tift merrit is better than shelby lynne but not as good as terri gibbs or kt oslin or lacy j dalton) on about ten different threads in the past year (among other places.) i don't wanna bore anybody by repeating myself, for the 20th time, but maybe somebody should link to those (the 2004 and 2005 rolling country threads, the folk vs country thread, the big & rich thread, the dbt thread, the montgomery gentry thread, the tift or was it alison or was it shelby thread, assorted toby/kenny threads, etc etc..) (and yeah, frank is right -- if drive by truckers were a rock band once upon a time, they sure come off like folkies now. somebody really needs to put a boot in their ass and get 'em rocking again.) (and if anything, i thought the nashville poll results were too alt, not nashville enough; seems very weird that kenny and toby got no love at all in the winners' lists. which i don't have in front of me, so i'll leave it at that.)

chuck, Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

and oh yeah, as i think edd alluded to above, half of the comments the nashville scene printed seemed to be along the lines of "if kenny chesney and tim mcgraw are country, then buddy miller sure is." what i wanna know is, who exactly is saying buddy miller (or whoever) *isn't* country? just because they don't play him on the radio or on CMT doesn't mean the radio and CMT folks don't think he's country. maybe they just think kenny is *better* (like i do, though i have nothing against buddy miller, who has really left no impression whatsoever with me the few times i've tried to listen to him. he seems like good guy, though, from what people write about him.) more likely they just think kenny is more saleable, but that it doesn't follow that they think less saleable performers are also less country. so anyway, i had no idea who those comments were arguing with; critics have prefered alt country to pop country forever; what else is new??

also, ps: I don't remember ever hearing "remember when" (or the george strait song or songs that placed, assuming any did), though maybe i did. and i was amazed that so many people liked the tragic maudlin tim mcgraw song about skydiving with a bull named fu manchu. (i like tim a lot, and think most of his albums are pretty solid, but the only song i like much on his current album is the new single, "drugs or jesus.") and i wonder how many people voted for "over and over." and brad paisley has never left any impression whatsoever on me either, though that song about mud is okay i guess. and i wish edd would tell me whether blake shelton's previous albums are as good as his new one, which as i said already on the 2005 rolling country thread, i would have voted for in the country poll had i listened to it on time (and i would have listened to it on time if i hadn't thought he was the same person as ricky van shelton, who iv'e never had any use for.)

chuck, Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

also ps: "holy water" by FAR the dullest of big &rich's singles (four now, including "big time") so far off of *horse*.

chuck, Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i think that holy water has a genrous, solid tenderness and intimacy that is avoided on the rest of the album, and a sadness as well--it makes them more of a real band and less of a deconstructive excercise in genre. (not that i dont love deconstructive excercises in genres)

anthony, Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i think that holy water has a genrous, solid tenderness and intimacy that is avoided on the rest of the album, and a sadness as well--it makes them more of a real band and less of a deconstructive excercise in genre. (not that i do love deconstructive excercises in genres)

anthony, Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

also also ps: edd also right about todd snider's album sounding like a songwriting demo (as i wrote in my pazz and jop comments, actually.) i totally cut him slack by voting for his right wing republican males song as my # 10 single over the three by montgomery gentry. though it was pretty obvious that the country-poll voters were cutting nice guys with good politics and mediocre records (snider, miller, earle, drive by truckers) slack left and right way more than i did (not that cutting nice guys with good politics slack wasn't perfectly understandable this year, of all years.)

xp

chuck, Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i actually think the melody of "wild west show" sounds a LOT sadder than "holy water," which is one of the album's mooshiest (not to mention least catchy) tracks. and generosity is not something b&r are lacking, in any way whatsoever! but i'm glad anthony loves the song regardless!

chuck, Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

my country comments are remixed gooder than what I ccd you when sending to Ballotmaster, chuck (see em on freelancementalists) I think I may have cut Chesney too much slack re Top Male Vocalists, but "Anything But Mine" is one of most compelling evah (and you were wondering how that "Old Blue Chair" could fare, all those years in the elements? It's wicker! It gets to be in the vid, and he reffered to its wickerness in an interview. Said he woke up there one New Year's Day, frustrated with his career and his ex-fiancee [apparently female, per Kandia's bit about the downlow], and resolved to turn his life around! Too bad not a little more of that passion in the song, but Ah lak it). The arguement over what is/isn't country seems to to mainly pertain to programming & label "guidance", now that even No Dep has has Cross-Genre-Dressers' nights. Now it's time for the Grammmy preshow. Who will win Country.

don, Monday, 14 February 2005 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

is "Big Time" an '04 single or an '05, because if latter I will promptly add it to my so-far singles list (might be my fave song off Horse--that melody!)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 14 February 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

wait, is there gossip about chesney likes the gay, because i thot it was poossiblr, with all of the v. handsome men in his videos (more handsome men then girls) and also his general vainity.

i will have to hear the big and rich song again, i might have too soft a spot for moosh.

(and you havent talked to me about big and rich wrt to genre)

anthony, Monday, 14 February 2005 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

also ps: "holy water" by FAR the dullest of big &rich's singles (four now, including "big time") so far off of *horse*.

hrmmm. i dunno, depends on what you're implying by the word "dull". if you mean it's the least "adventurous" or most "typical", i'll agree. but fuck, their harmonies mesh beautifully and soar like nowhere else on the album. for my ears, which may be mooshy as well, it's the best song there, and i *love* the rest of it (except for the jimmy buffet one, which is just eh).

john'n'chicago, Monday, 14 February 2005 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i probably mean more that it's the least "energetic," though yeah, orthodoxy and lack of adventure has a lot to do with it, too. i do like the song fine, mind you. but i hear unbelievable beauty in their harmonies and unbelievable open-heartedness in their words (and their singing) throughout the album; seems like a fallacy to me to suggest the harmonies get *more* beautiful (or more intimate) merely by subtracting their energy and wit and gigantic hooks.

way more about b&r & genre here (and also, in my review at villagevoice.com) than you'll probably ever need, anthony:

Big & Rich: Album of the Decade?

and yep, michaelangelo, "big time" counts as an '05 single.

chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Anybody else wondering why Will Oldham's magnificent "Bonnie Prince Billy Sings Greatest Palace Music" doesn't rate here?

rattanman, Monday, 14 February 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

>can someone explain kieth urban to me ?<

Well, there's a nice, vaguely exploratory guitar solo now and then (more on his previous album, which had three or four entertaining tracks, than his current one.) and, um, there's that sexy australian accent (which he doesn't sing with), I guess (though at least one website I've seen mentions a rumor among country fans that he and little kenny are a couple, and one of them even bought the other one a motorcycle for a present recently. seems kinda far fetched from my perspective, but who knows? it's a very fun rumor, either way.)

chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Chuck, I like Blake Shelton's second album, "The Dreamer," better than I do his first, although the single "Austin" is fine. "Dreamer" is a bit more realized, a little wilder, and "Playboys of the Southwestern World" is pretty great...they're gonna "show the Mexican girls a couple real hillbillies." Ricky Van Shelton: I know a guy in Nashville who's a real typical kinda musician in town, a stone jazzbo drummer who plays with country acts on the road, and he says they all got to calling RVS "Shelley Van Rectum." I didn't really ask why...and I've also heard that rumor around town about Kenny/Urban.

Actually, I saw a Buddy Miller video on CMT recently...right before that newish one of Shania's in which she's ridin' a horse through, what is that, a field of agave? Looks good on a horse.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 14 February 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

the shania video is really weirdly coloured and bothersomne, plus the song is really annoying, i really hate shania...now where do i pick up nasty nashville gossip ? (is there a country equivalent of groupie central ?)

anthony, Monday, 14 February 2005 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Anybody else wondering why Will Oldham's magnificent "Bonnie Prince Billy Sings Greatest Palace Music" doesn't rate here?

Because it sucks?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 February 2005 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

(Anyway, so Keith Urban and "Freebird," then.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 February 2005 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i didnt think it sucked at all, i thot it was lovely and complex, well worth listening to--a bit too much of a conceit but excellent regardless

anthony, Monday, 14 February 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, Obligatory S.P., I tried to like "The Duel" but I guess for me it was a question of tempo, all the songs sorta dragged on. She sounds like she needs a friend. I know and respect what it was she was getting at--the tribulations of being a female up on stage in a man's world, I suppose--but it didn't work for me, musically. But she did use the word "tinhorn" in a "country" song about gambling and that was something I liked.

"now where do i pick up nasty nashville gossip"

well, there's a bar downtown, 12th and Porter, people are always talking there, and you can pick up any number of things there, not always salubrious. I think it was my buddy who works at BMI Nashville who told me about that Kenny/Urban thing, actually.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 14 February 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

>"now where do i pick up nasty nashville gossip<

http://www.celebstation.org/picture/33606/Kenny_Chesney

am i the only person who thought gretchen's voice sounded really thin and small in that skynyrd medley (though she started out okay i guess)? (and who was her t-shirt paying tribute to?) urban's guitar parts were nice and vaguely exploratory (like i said!), but does he earn his last name or what? tim mcgraw has a very very pretty voice but i prefer elvin bishop's fashion sense.

chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

and then, ha ha, redneck woman and sweet home alabama followed up by green day refusing to be a part of the redneck agenda; i wonder if that was on purpose. (i know, this belongs on the grammy thread, but i don't wanna get sucked into that one, too. do people always talk about how that "new kind of tension" line is a blatant buzzcocks reference? i assume it's common knowledge, but i've never heard anyboody mention it, oddly enough.)

chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't keith's solo hold its own with the others, incl. Dicky's? I thought so, although it was more of an interjection than a solo, I guess. It fit. Damn, too little Gretchen, of course. If KC ever does some out, he stands a good chance of getting Dixie Chicked, because of his popularity. Make an example of him, like they won't bother with the musos, songwriters, etc. who are out and antiwar, cos they're obscure and they need those people.Local "they," anyway. Although, when Iran goes down the toilet, and the bigger they start looking for surrogates (esp. if George follows through on that recent int interview, in which he indicated he wasn't gonna push that hard for the Gay Marraige thing in Congress, cos there aren't enough votes). What would really be scary is if Toby came out. I think *he8 could finesse it somehow. Anthony, what "jesus book" are you writing or contributing to?

don, Monday, 14 February 2005 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i am writing a book (have been for a while) that is aabout american venacular christianity, i can email you my proposal if you are interested.

when will a nashville star come out ? what will need to happen.

havent heard gw yet, as it starts at 9 pm here.

anthony, Monday, 14 February 2005 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

>tim mcgraw has a very very pretty voice<

though you wouldn't have known it from his boring-assed grammy performance of the fu manchu bull song or the dead-assed lines he did in "across the universe" (which i never knew was called "across the universe" before. or at least, if you would have asked me two hours ago which beatles song "across the universe" was, i wouldn't have been able to answer "the nothing's gonna change the world one." which song i never much noticed before anyway.) but anyway, i still think tim's skynyrd lines sounded purty indeed.

chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

ps) why didn't they have gretchen do the janis tribute, instead of melissa etheridge and the completely useless joss stone? to me, that seems like a no-brainer; i mean, gretchen is *marketed* as a sort of new janis, right? weird.

chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)

My non-voter two cents:
First cent: Neko Case has a great big voice and I like a lot of what she does and I like the live album fine, but often the music provided by her bands verges on the boringness that alt-country is accused of and often delivers- I can't decide yet what the case is on this album.
Second cent: not a lot of people on this board seem to have paid attention to the Tift Merritt album, but I know chuck has said good things before this thread. I can see why people don't like it, because it sounds a lot like generic country-rock with some soul moves thrown in there, which is part of the formula anyway. The presence of Tom Petty Heartbreaker Mike Campbell on lead guitar must be noted (Benmont Tench was on her other album), and whether you view Tom Petty as just a journeyman or a journeyman with moments of genius will probably correlate with how you feel about this record. Her first album actually had a few songs that where better than any on this one- it had higher high points- but this one is more consistent. And, as usual, it is hard to refute Edd Hurt's logic, but as sometimes is the case, his conclusion is wrong- she does have a reason to sing. Admittedly she sounds a little innocent and naive so as to almost appear foolish, but she evades this charge and ends up being- what? sweet? refreshing? In any case, listen to "Virginia, Don't Let Me Warn You" and especially "I Know Him Too" off the first album to get a better understanding.

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 14 February 2005 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

in fact they should have had gretchen do the janis thing with bonnie raitt (whose ray charles thing sounded great.)

xp

chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

(and actually, tim's purty skynyrd lines were mainly purty allmans lines i guess, duh. whatever...)

chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 04:59 (twenty-one years ago)

(and though of course actually, if they wanted a *really* memorable janis tribute, they would have forgetten girls entirely and gotten dan mcafferty from nazareth -- who still sounds real good on their new live in glasgow cd/dvd -- and tom keifer from cinderella and maybe even axl rose, if they could've lured him down from his mountaintop and persuaded him to dig out his long-lost high register again) (and maybe noddy holder and taime down too, while they're at it)

chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

On the one song I heard once by Joss Stone I didn't find her completely useless; more like a Taylor Dayne who hadn't yet found her Ric Wake.

I wasn't that inspired by the Tift Merritt, was just reacting to Edd's idea that its inclusion in a country poll would be considered strange.

Keith Urban baffles me: His playing is expert and he has the sort of "lite" voice that's emotionally dexterous without calling attention to its technique; I get the sense that if this guy had any musical restlessness whatsoever he could be an interesting Lindsey Buckingham type. But his song choice is utterly blah, and sans restlessness he comes across as generally forgettable. There was one track that reached me on the most recent album: I think it was called "She's Gotta Be": They put the emphasis on the two AND rather than on the backbeat; this through the song off-kilter enough to give it unexpected intensity.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 14 February 2005 06:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The only Moorer I heard was the live set, which Edd's description nails. As someone who thinks the Rolling Stones really were the greatest rock band ever, I hate when their riffs get reduced to let's-boogie-endlessly-mama-to-the-dull-dull-dawn. But then the Stones themselves bear some of the blame for this, starting with the overrated Exile where Keith began to build the songs on lengthy open-tuned guitar vamps.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 14 February 2005 06:34 (twenty-one years ago)

This through = This threw

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 14 February 2005 06:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I only saw a bit of the Grammies, tuned in right as Loretta and Jack W. got their award. Pretty charming, "yes ma'am."

Frank, wasn't the first Tift Merritt album produced by Chris Stamey? I think I heard some of it, and will probably need to revisit it. I am admittedly somewhat of a traditionalist when it comes to that soul stuff. I listened to "Tambourine" some last night and I guess maybe she does have a reason to sing, everyone has a reason to...even me. I guess in my heart of hearts I believe anyone doing that kind of thing should go to Malaco or see Willie Mitchell and Teenie Hodges about it, just do it up. Which is contrary and so forth, that's just me. But then I don't want Tift to get big from eating that good barbecue, it's a horrible, confounding trade-off.

I don't think "Exile" is overrated but I see why many would say that. I suppose it is responsible for the kind of thing Frank describes, I suppose it's where the Stones get a bit discursive. I think it's a groove and I just go with it; shit, though, I listen to "Metamorphosis" more than any Stones album these days just because I love "Some Things Just Stick in Your Mind" and "Downtown Suzie" so much.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 14 February 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The first Tift full-length was produced by Ethan Johns. (Also the second.) Stamey produced sessions for the first disc that resulted in what was supposed to be the album but ended up becoming demos for the Lost Highway version. Most of the songs they did in the Stamey sessions were re-recorded by Johns; others were left off entirely.

asl, Monday, 14 February 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Also Tambourine turned out much better than I expected. On paper it reads like a trainwreck, but it's nice enough. The first album was okay too.

asl, Monday, 14 February 2005 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

>, redneck woman and sweet home alabama followed up by green day refusing to be a part of the redneck agenda<

and wow, i just remembered that in "when i come around" a few years ago, green day basically swiped the chords of "sweet home alabama"!

chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

(I like "American Idiot," but often Billy Joe's voice reminds me of Billy Joel *when* his "Piano Man" was biting Harry Chapin biting Tim Buckley, and I really don't like Harry Chapin!) Dixie Chicks' live version of "Top Of The World" won Best Duo or Group; Steve Earle's THE REVOLUTION STARTS...NOW won Best Contemporary Folk! Send him to Gitmo with Pete Seeger and Ani!

don, Monday, 14 February 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

2. Anthony Hamilton, "Charlene" (Arista) ??

W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Explain to me how that isn't a country song, W i l l.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

No!

I didn't mean to like throw down the gauntlet, it's just I was going through your list downloading stuff and it sounded like R&B to my ears. Love to hear why it's country.

W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry for my tone, thought it was a gauntlet. Yes, it's R&B, but no, it's not: it's soul music, specifically of the Stax/Hi Memphis variety, and that school had almost as much to do with the country tradition as it did with James Brown. Plus, if you listen to the words, this is a country song from the get-go.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah. I never listen to words the first time (or second or ... until a phrase worms its way into my ear canal). Also, I don't know jack about Stax or Hi or soul in general (someday...). So this opens up a whole lot more material for future country music critics poll ballots, no? (though you seem to be in the minority in this respect so far from my reading of the poll's winners)

W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Matt's OTM about "Charlene" being a country song--also, Hamilton opens begins "Lucille," "You picked a fine time to leave me," just like the Kenny Rogers song! dude is totally country, or at least down-home.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost: Well, just because I'm idiosyncratic doesn't mean I'm right. But I think I am. And it's all getting more wide-open all the time. Kinda.

and Matos OTM about "Lucille," my favorite song on that record...but even that one is more prog-folk than country. trife says Ant Ham is an Al Green wannabe but I think he's the best songwriter in America maybe

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Hamilton's a pretty country dude anyway.

¬_¬ (PUNXSUTAWNEY PENIS), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

see, my problem w/AH is the songwriting--everything else I love. but the album falters for me because the songs felt underwritten. team him w/a pro or two and I'd be all the way over it. (dream lineup: Hamilton, Raphael Saadiq, and John Rich.)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Raphael Saadiq has messed his career up by overwriting songs, MM! And, as much as I love B&R, if I see John Rich anywhere near Anthony Hamilton's career, you'll be reading about me in the papers. In a bad way.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 06:54 (twenty-one years ago)

How would Raphael fit, M? Intriguing--

don, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven months pass...
the new one hit the streets two weeks ago but no one seems to have discussed it, so here: http://www.nashvillescene.com/Stories/Cover_Story/2006/01/19/Country_Music_Critics_Poll_2006/index.shtml

I'm playing the top 20 singles playlist, sounds great so far (I'm very much a country dilettante).

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 30 January 2006 05:21 (twenty years ago)

Actually, we discuss it quite a lot on the Rolling Country 2006 thread, and people were already posting their 2006 ballots back on the Rolling 2005 Country Thread. Come join us.

But you're right, there are some great singles on the chart; four of my top ten got in the top six, something which has never happened in Pazz & Jop.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 30 January 2006 06:55 (twenty years ago)

Their reissue list is solid gold.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 January 2006 07:11 (twenty years ago)

As Frank said, this was discussed some on the rolling country thread, but what the heck, I'll post my ballot and my comments (neither of which I still totally agree with) here, in case anybody cares:


Chuck Eddy's Nashiville Scene Poll Ballot, 2005

TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2005:
1. Miranda Lambert - Kerosene (Epic)
2. Deana Carter - The Story of My Life (Vanguard)
3. Gary Allan - Tough All Over (MCA Nashville)
4. Jamie O'Neal - Brave (EMI/Capitol)
5. Shooter Jennings - Put the O Back in Country (Universal South)
6. Lee Ann Womack - There's More Where That Came From (MCA Nashville)
7. Dallas Wayne - I'm Your Biggest Fan (Koch)
8. Big & Rich - Comin' To Your City (Warner Bros.)
9. Elizabeth McQueen and the Firebrands - Happy Doing What We're Doing (Freedom)
10. Little Big Town - The Road to Here (Equity Music Group)

TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2005:
1. Shooter Jennings featuring George Jones - 4th of July (Universal South)
2. Miranda Lambert - Kerosene (Epic)
3. Dierks Bentley - Lot of Leavin' Left to Do (EMI)
4. Kentucky Headhunters - Big Boss Man (CMUJ Entertainment)
5. Erika Jo - I Break Things (Universal South)
6. Deana Carter - The Girl You Left Me For (Vanguard)
7. Toby Keith - As Good As I Once Was (Dreamworks)
8. Brad Paisley - Alcohol (Arista Nashville)
9. Tim McGraw - Drugs or Jesus (Curb)
10. Shannon Brown - Corn Fed (Warner Bros)

TOP FIVE COUNTRY REISSUES OF 2005:
1. *Good For What Ails You: Music of the Medicine Shows: 1926-1937* (Old Hat)
2. *You Ain't Talkin to Me: Charlie Poole and the Roots of Country Music* (Columbia/Legacy)
3. David Allen Coe - *Penitentiary Blues* (Hacktone)
4. *The Dukes of Hazzard* (Columbia/Sony Music Soundtrax)
5. Rosanne Cash - *Seven Year Ache* (Columbia/Legacy)

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST MALE VOCALISTS OF 2005:
1. Gary Allan
2. Toby Keith
3. Kenny Chesney

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST FEMALE VOCALISTS OF 2005:
1. Miranda Lambert
2. Deana Carter
3. Shannon Brown

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST SONGWRITERS OF 2005:
1. John Rich
2. Miranda Lambert
3. Deana Carter

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST DUOS, TRIOS OR GROUPS OF 2005:
1. Big & Rich
2. Little Big Town
3. Odyssey Band

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST INSTRUMENTALISTS OF 2005:
1. James "Blood" Ulmer
2 Leroy Powell
3. Shooter Jennings

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST NEW ACTS OF 2005:
1. Miranda Lambert
2. Shooter Jennings
3. Shannon Brown

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST OVERALL ACTS OF 2005:
1. Miranda Lambert
2. Deana Carter
3. Big & Rich


Hardest part of my *Nasvhille Scene* ballot, like always: "Best Songwriters," which I'm horrible at determining, since I tend not to read CD booklets as often as I should (or at least I tend to skip the names in parentheses).
Best song I never identified: The (I assume current) country hit with a high ethereal male voice saying the same borderline-incomprehensible thing over and over again on top of what sounded *exactly* like a loop of a great guitar progression from "Hollywood Nights" by Bob Seger (which *maybe* a little "Night Moves" tossed in, I'm not sure.) I heard it once, on the radio in Pennsylvania. Any help would be appreciated
2005 country albums I still haven't heard that I may well have liked: Toby Keith, Kenny Chesney (the real one with Stones riffs and stuff, not the acoustic beach-bum one), Carrie Underwood, Keith Anderson, Sara Evans. Any of which I might have wound up voting for had I listened to them, just like last year, when if I hadn't let *Blake Shelton's Barn and Grill* sit around 'til early January without listening to it, it easily would have made my 2004 country top ten. My favorite track, even more than "Some Beach," turned out to be "What's On My Mind." Biggest revelation, though, was that Blake Shelton and Ricky Van Shelton are not the same person.
Alt-country single (and most rocking suicide song) of the year: "Callin' In Dead" by Mazey Gardens & the Brick Hit House Band, disguised (all the way down to the attic-wrinkled-for-three-decades generic 7-inch sleeve) to look like a reissue of a minor country hit (on the apparently phony Åmbassador Records) from 1972. Koch and Sugar Hill did an okay job in helping me not completely hate alt-country this year, too, so kudos to them.But one thing I noticed about my country listening this year is that most of the more alt-country-leaning stuff I liked (Duhks, Donna the Buffalo, Maybelles, Patrcia Vonne, Hacienda Brothers, Reckless Kelly, Billy Don Burns) wound up being shelved for future reference after initially knocking me out (maybe I'm just impressed that alt-country finally seems to be acknowledging that music should have some rhythm in it?), whereas the stuff that kept growing on me and revealing new things about itself seemed mostly to be from Nashville (which is dancing more than it used to these days as well, obviously.) So my top ten, as usual, wound up way more pop than alt, again. But nobody can say I didn't try for the other side. Still: Switching off one summer night between new albums by apparent alt-country Missourians the Domino Kings and the Morells (both on Hightone), I was thinking "not completely horrible as alt-c&w goes", until Van Zant's new album came up next in my CD player by accident, and it totally trounced them with its eyes closed and mine closed too. (Good thing it wasn't on a computer, though.) And then there's Caitlin Cary & Thad Cockrell's *Begonias*: Listened to this 'cuz Bob Christgau said I should. He loves the opening track, a sort of lamenting-our-open-marriage duet, and i guess it's pretty nifty as blando alt-country with vaguely pretty singing and a decent melody and no other music to speak of goes. I like the song where some girl escapes halfway to Califonia better, since lyrics about California let alt-country bands have hooks that aren't otherwise allowed. And the one about waiting for some girl named June in January was slightly clever. But still: way too NPR, way too genteel, way too afraid of the messiness of life and afraid of life in general. Bob seemed seemed to think it's kinda sexy; I think it's kinda sexless. Caitlin used to be in Whiskeytown, right? Don't remember if I ever heard them.
Country ad of the year: The ASCAP Award one in *Billboard*, where John Rich, who apparently won the "Songwriter/Artist of the year award," is pictured (among plain old regular so-what headshots of 50 or so other stars and industry luminaries) wearing an "I Heart PETA" T-shirt while eating a (veggie or not) burger and wearing a (veggie or not) fur coat. I guess he wants to have his meat and eat it too.
Country fashion spread of the year: The *New York Times* Thursday style section one the week of the CMA Awards, condescendingly chronicling female country artists' newfound obsession with designer labels. For instance, did you know they don't leave price tags on their hats anymore? Well, they don't, so there! Actually, the most interesting thing about the piece was the graphic that compared Faith Hill's, Martina McBride's, and Leann Rimes's down-home mid '90s CD covers to their much more fashionable (and way hotter, though it doesn't say that) recent ones. And the piece even mentioned Leann's "heaving bosom"! Take that, Minnie Pearl!
Best standup comedy: The Duhks on stage, saying they'd "married" their friends in the Canadian agit-folk band The Mammals, and would now be called the Platypi. I totally guffawed out loud, but judging from everybody turning around to glare at me, I think I was the only person at Joe's Pub who got it.
Mathematic inequality of the summer: Shooter Jennings "4th of July" > X "4th of July" > Martina McBride "Independence Day" > um., whatever the Springsteen and Van Morrison ones were called
Bubblegum country song of the year: Charlie Poole's "Sweet Sixteen," literally about a teenage girl fond of chewing gum.
Cool drink of water, such a sweet surprise: "Key Lime Pie" by Kenny Chesney, best country cunnilungus song since Brooks and Dunn went down in memory town.
Best title pun by a frequently annoying band: "Easy Does It" by Hot Apple Pie, which totally gets its sound from Lionel Richie in his eternally underrated "Stuck on You"/"Sail On" soul-country mode. Get it?
Big new secret country influence: Counting Crows in their Van Morrison mode, but mainly only when the words are about Californina. Pat Green's album last year had a song like that; so did Jon Nicholson's this year. And "California Rain" on Philly-bred Buck Cherry-style Sunset Strip sleaze-rock revivalists Silvertide's album, which George Smith identified as their CMT move, sounds kind of like Counting Crows too! Counting Crows may be the most influential band on "songs about California" since the Beach Boys. Or the Eagles. Or Guns N' Roses. Or somebody.
Not as much of an influence as country pretends: AC/DC. Ryan Shupe and the Rubberband (who also sadly sound nothing like Bootsy) list AC/DC among their influences, but damned if it's audible in their Toad the Wet Sprocket riffs. So when, exactly, did AC/DC turn out to be the all-purpose okay hard rock band for country guys to say they like? When Joe Dee Messina's band played the riff from "Back in Black" live a couple years before Montgomery Gentry borrowed it, maybe? And then there's "Soul Shaker" by Big & Rich, which despite their claims that it's the hardest-rocking country song ever is really basically just a straight boogie, not as heftily kicking a one as Montgomery Gentry or Shooter Jennings or the Kentucky Headhunters might do, and not even close to to the hardest-rocking *Big & Rich* song ever actually, but still good. I was wondering why it reminded me of AC/DC, and then i realized, duh, the title! (Also the Cult, though i always thought Ian Astbury was yelling "SALT shaker!")
Most over-the-top '70s disco on any country album, maybe ever (or at least since, like, 1980 or so): "Good Ole Days," track #8 on the new Shannon Brown album, which isn't out yet, but which would've been my third favorite country album of 2005 if it was. The song that sounds like Bachman-Turner Overdrive is even better! (Take that, Hank Williams! Honestly, though, I *like* that country radio all sounds like '70s hard rock and '80s John Cougar now, so why not Gloria Gaynor, too? I'm 45 years old, from the Detroit suburbs. So sue me.)
Jody "Joe Dee" Messina's "My Give a Damn's Broken" took its music straight from Don Henley's "Dirty Laundry" and its sentiments straight from the Eagles' "Get Over It": Please don't tell me about your victimhood no more. Victim of love, you're just a victim of love. I could be wrong, but I'm not.
Has anybody else noticed that Lee Ann Womack's "I May Hate Myself in the Morning" sounds an awful lot like "Little Green Apples" by O.C. Smith? Ot at least its string break does. I'd forgotten what a great song "Little Green Apples" was, though it's pretty creepy when O.C. goes into that minstrel blackface "when myself iz feelin low" part. (Also, how come so many black country singers had names like O.C. Smith, O.B. McLinton, and O.V. Wright? Or is that just my imagination?)
Holy fuck what a *stomp* "Kerosene" by Miranda Lambert is. Totally 1986--riffs from Screaming Blue Messiahs, title from Big Black, rocks harder than either. Also, it's about burning things. And the Erika Jo song I voted for is about breaking things. 2005: The year country gals got their appetite for destruction on (again).
"Montgomery Gentry? They're punks for sure," Frank Kogan says, "and I don't mean that altogether as a compliment." I agree--.especially considering their libertarian treatise "You Beat Your Brat (I'll Beat Mine)."
I like "Monday Morning Church" okay; I've liked a handful of Alan Jackson songs in the past, too (the 9-11 one, the Daddy let me drive one, the Chatahoochie one, etc.), but mainly the guy's even more of a respectfully personality-free goody-two-shoes snoozecase than Randy Travis or George Strait. He no doubt deserves a good 10-song best-of album; but he's a "superstar" (and humble my ass), cough cough, so he'll never get one. (I guess that's what CD burners are for, right? One of these years I'll buy one.) Have *never* understood people who call Alan (or even Randy or George) great singers, though; lots of people do, so I'm probably missing something.. To me they just sound tasteful, totally reined in. And more or less average, when you get down to it. Still, at the CMA Awards in New York this fall, when Alan covered "Wonderful Tonight" by Eric Clapton, he sang it better than Eric used to. (But is that song *supposed* to sound totally suicidal and cynical and sarcastic, like the guy is totally tired of life despite his gorgeous wife of apparently several decades, or am I nuts? Always kinda hit me that way when Eric sang it too. ) Meanwhile, same night, George Strait sounded, uh, okay in his straight way I suppose; decent voice, sure, and the arrangement was vaguely jazzy, and there was possibly even a chord change in there somewhere, and the song (advice to a male friend in love with a "high toned woman" who's out of his league) was kinda intriguing, but despite all that, damn, what a fucking *bore*. I don't get it. All the *elements* are there, but it just goes by as "another George Straight song, just like hundreds of others." Alan and George have this way of singing words without remotely embodying them, or something. How can people get excited about these guys? Maybe their fans are the kind of people who don't *like* to get excited?
Keith Urban is fun. He's fun to look at. He doesn't wash his hair. Or okay, I know, he looks like he just got off his surfboard and it's still wet and so are all the ladies screaming for him. What a himbo! And he was named the CMA's male country singer of the year, which is ridiculous, because he's got like the most average voice on earth. At the award show, his beat sounded more disco than Big & Rich's. The music was total late '70s Starbuck/King Harvest/Little River Band soft afternoon rock; in theory I should *love* it, but his songs never have an effect until he takes a guitar solo, which he never does anyway near long enough...since perhaps it's assumed his audience demographic does not like guitar solos? Could be. A shame, because he can play. I think all he needs are better songs, but maybe since he always just rolled out of bed or off the waves he's too sleepy and lazy to hunt around for good ones.
So did I misread something somewhere, or did Garth Brooks actually make people buy a limited-edition six-disc box set available for only, like, one Tuesday afternoon at Walmart just to get that one (admittedly rocking) song about Chris Ledeux, who most of his fans had probably never heard of? Wow, Garth: still shameless after all these years. Or at least that's the idea I got from an ad I saw in the *Times* during CMA week, when he played live from Times Square because, uh, he was too important to walk ten blocks south to the Garden or whatever. Though I much prefered the patriotic pro-union Walmart vs. America full-page ad the day before, with Walmart moneybags doing a tug of the war for the Yoonited States against Unca Sam. Hope it also ran in papers read in places where people actually shop at Walmart.
Sugarland's drummer *killed* at the CMA Awards; what does everybody have against that band? They rock. But the drummer's not in the band per se, and neither is the totally scraggly looking long-hair rock guitarist dressed in black. Their dykey looking big girl and nerdy looking skinny guy *are* in the band-per-se', though, and it pisses me off how often TV monistors only show Jennifer Nettles, as if they're a solo act not a trio; what the hell? They've become big stars from the grass-roots up; has Nashville decided the two cool oddball looking members are liabilities? If so, to hell with Nashville.
"Bobby McGee" question: Why the heck does she carry a *harpoon* in her dirty red bandanna? Is she gonna hunt whales, or what? That's so weird.
Nominees for the Grammys' "best contemporary folk album" category: Springsteen, John Prine, Nickel Creek, Rodney Crowell, Ry Cooder. So basicially, Triple A radio I guess. Does this mean people figured out once and for all that Bruce is a folk not a rock artist? Though interestingly, Alison Krauss is apparently nominated in the country category instead, which means they apparently don't think of *all* bluegrass as folk. Intriguing. And honestly, Nickel Creek and Crowell *are* more folk than country, seems to me.
Still, as far as genre taxonomy goes: Do the Warsaw Village Band (on World Village Records) count as country? Instrumentation includes cello, dulcimer, "plock fidel," violins, hurdy gurdy, xylophone, etc; song titles include "In the Forest" and "Woman in Hell" and "When Johnny Went to Fight the War" and "I Slayed the Rye" and "Polka from the Sieradz Region." First song samples Grandmaster Flash scractching Chic's "Good Times."
"Best of Luck" is the only even *possibly* great track on the Nickel Creek album, and I'm not even positive about that one. The only other fast songs are instrumentals -- why are bluegrassers these days so afraid of talking fast over fast jig rhythms like all the guys on that Charlie Poole box used to? (Kind of a problem with the Duhks, too, actually.)
My favorite track on the new Big & Rich album might still be "Filthy Rich," the jazzy one in the middle that sounds like the Hoosier Hot Shots and seems (first verse at least) to be a blatant protest against social security privatization (Grandma's been saving up her money, now some big man in a big building is going to take it away from her); second verse is about a greedy TV preacher. But mainly I like its *sound*, which totally gets that proto-Western-swing local-yokels-trying-to-be-the-Memphis-Jug-Band groove *down*, sax solo and all. Dance party music for a Great Depression, not a moment too soon, even if its real old-timey influence is Queen or Jimmy Buffet. Also neat how it balances out the Jesus-in-the-sky-with-diamonds Christian mysticism that John and Kenny spout in songs like "Leap of Faith" and "I Pray for You."
Am I the only person who googled "Jessica White" after hearing B&R's "Comin' To Your City," only to find out she's a model I never heard of before, then only to be told later that they're actually talking about Jesco White, a clog dancer I never heard of before? I am so out of it when it comes to all these high-fallutin' celebrities.
Also noticed this year that one guy in Trick Pony sure does look and dress a lot like Big Kenny. Did he always look like that? If so, is it at all possible Trick Pony were proto-B&R? Would that explain why I kept thinking they were called Trick Daddy instead?
Followup-to-unbelievable-breaktrough-album *Comin To Your City* most wound up reminding me of: *Use Your Illusion*, with "8th of November" as both "Novemeber Rain" *and* "Civil War." (Which is to say: good in theory, but uh, really really long.)
So can somebody please tell me why Gretchen Wilson does ballads? What did her first album have, one memorable one maybe? And her new one has fewer than that.
Cowboy Troy is a total fucking cornball, but so what, that only makes him more fun. The last cut on his album, where he raps in several languages especially Mandarin Chinese while Big Kenny sings the chorus to "Jesus Loves the Little Children of the World," should have been all over Radio Disney, but sadly it wasn't.
And oh yeah, before some Maroons start whining about how "corny" or whatever it is that B&R quote/interpolate Nelly instead of, say, Bun B or MF Doom, they should explain how, say. Jay-Z collaborating with Linkin Park instead of Lifter Puller or Tupac sampling Bruce Hornsby instead of Peter Laughner is any less corny. The nature of guys from one genre incorporating music from another genre is that, big whoop, they might not incorporate the absolute hippest or most up-to-the-minute stuff out there. And I'm really not convinced country is any more guilty of that than hip-hop or metal or any other genre is. Though I still wish Big & Rich would sing over a Timbaland beat or a RZA beat or a Mannie Fresh beat sometimes as well as those Bo Diddley beats. But then, I also I wish David Banner had a working knowledge of recent Kenny Chesney and Dierks Bentley melodies. So yeah, I can dream.

xhuxk, Monday, 30 January 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)

Heh. From talking to Rich, that was probably a meat burger and a fake fur (as he was stridently anti-fur but pro-meat barbeque when I knew him).

It's interesting that Nevermind Me has become a bit of a hit. On one email list I'm a part of, some of the students that were involved in writing that song (through the Priceless Edge Mastercard internship) were pissed off and even talking about lawsuits. I think it all blew a way when they realized what tenuous legal ground they were on (having signed away rights and not having a lot of documentation on bringing a lot to the song to begin with).

I wonder if they'll ever record Limo Larry...

js (honestengine), Monday, 30 January 2006 20:50 (twenty years ago)

physician, heal thyself

gear (gear), Monday, 30 January 2006 21:21 (twenty years ago)


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