Am I the only Mug that still buys stuff?

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― Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Dog (Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountai), Friday, 18 February 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

I buy stuff all the time.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 18 February 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

No. I have never used a filesharing service, nor do I own an MP3 player.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 February 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

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― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 February 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

1919 Root Beer is way better....

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 18 February 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

Am sure most people here download and buy stuff.

(Most = exactly 63.27%)

― PiersT, Friday, 18 February 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, 'stuff' meant music.
Maybe that's what you meant Matt??

― Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Dog (Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountai), Friday, 18 February 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't go as far as "most". In my experience critics never buy anything, and there's a lot of critics round these parts...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 February 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)

Is constantly buying new music an addiction and if so, must it be kicked?

― LaToya JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 18 February 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

xpost - Fair point Shakey Mo. Revised to state 63.27% of non-critics at ILM buy AND download. 36.72% of critics at ILM buy, download and receive lotsa promo product (please accept these figures as psychic fact). Though as a casual critic, i do buy, download and receive musics.

― PiersT, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:03 (twenty years ago)

Critics never buy anything? I can see that maybe of older critics but I thought the whole point of promo CDs is that you get to sell all of the crap and buy all of the cool stuff that you never get sent.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 18 February 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

Being a "music critic" didn't deter my purchasing habit for a moment (Walter is right....i'd sell off the other promo swag and buy the stuff I wanted). I still buy stuff. I will always buy stuff, as far as I can tell. Hell, even yesterday I SUCCUMBED and bought that fabled Virgin Prunes' re-release of ..If i Die, I Die, despite already owning TWO OTHER COPIES of it (on different labels with slightly different cover art and not re-mastered). I'm a dick.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 18 February 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)

I meant that I buy music...a lot....too much.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 18 February 2005 01:16 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Walter OTM - that's how my finances work, anyway. It's some sort of Robin Hood syndrome I think

― Jason J, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, that whole selling promos schtick doesn't really involve the spending of any money, does it? Strictly speaking, yr still getting yr shit for free (ie, yr just trading what you were given, for free, for something you'd like more). There isn't really any "buying" involved, per se.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I still buy stuff. I have to admit that I am trying to cut back this year, and making up for it by hearing new music through other means. I need to get my financial shit together.

― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Friday, 18 February 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

Trading stuff in has the same effect, Shakey, it's just that instead of cash your currency is albums.

Stores aren't going to buy product they can't move, and when they move the albums you've traded in their just going to use the money to stock up on more new stuff. It has the same effect on the record industry that paying cash for stuff would have.

― stephen morris, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:22 (twenty years ago)

"instead of cash your currency is albums. "

which you were GIVEN for FREE. No one just gives me cash when it's time for a trip to the record store.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

But to the individual, your money is very different than money from trading promo stock! Do any full time critics buy anything with cash not generated from promo CDs? I'm guessing yes but not massive numbers. And also guessing frugal types won't speak up here.

― PiersT, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)

It's not like music critics are rolling in cash, promo's are part of the salary!

― stephen morris, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:32 (twenty years ago)

well yeah if you consider them income, then the analogy holds up a bit better.

I'm sure you're all reporting your promos on your taxes, aren't you...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)

haha, what is this? Do you have a vendetta against music critics?

I don't see what the issue here. A music critic trading in albums isn't detrimental to the industry like someone getting on P2P and downloading everything. Isn't that what this thread is about?

Does buying CD's with hard cash put you in a higher echelon than everyone else? If so, where do I apply?

― stephen morris, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

I guess I don't agree with the implication that if critics actually buy stuff with their own cold hard cash, then this is more greater or more noble or whatever than using money from promo trade-ins to buy music.

The question was about who buys stuff. Not is buying stuff good, important etc. Is a whole other (but related) argument.

― PiersT, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

oh my - I wasn't trying to be negative or critical. Critics can do whatever they want with their promos, I don't give two shits about the industry, etc. Buying stuff with my hard-earned cash is not "better" (for anybody) than critics trading in promos for albums or anything like that. But it is *different* in that critics generally hear and consume a lot more music, for free, than average joe schmoe music buyer like me. That's all. No judgment. It makes perfect sense.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)

Okay, that makes more sense. It's hard to tell what's going on online. ;)

I guess the actual thread just struck me as trolling rather than a call for discussion. Maybe I'm off there, too.

― stephen morris, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

I buy, on average, 4-5 CDs per week. I am lucky to have a really nice job. I try to share with friends - whether they be near or far - as much as possible.

― southern lights (southern lights), Friday, 18 February 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

well if the original thread poster's intention was to suss out patterns of consumption among the general listening populace - all well and good - I was just pointing out that critics are in a unique position in terms of their music consumption, and as such should be separated out, on some level. I sorta inferred the question was directed towards determining how much downloading has cut into normal record buying (I have no idea - but even so, critics are probably the wrong subset to ask, that's all).

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

Funny, as someone who is very new to this board I was wondering the same thing myself. One gets the general impression that ilx'ers live and die by P2P.

But yeah, I buy a ton of music. I really only download when I'm looking to hear a new artist or want something random.

― Keith C (kcraw916), Friday, 18 February 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)

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