RAW POWER is the only Stooges record that merits a 10/10.

I dunno, but we did the same chant in my kundalini yoga class.

Raw Power is the weakest Stooges album, but I still wouldn't kick it out of bed.

As the first Stooges album I owned was the Complete FunHouse sessions, that's one I now love.

Raw Power is great too.

The first one, I played once. Yeah,its got "Dog" and "We will fall" but some of the othertracks were only 'pretty good' rather than 'great' by comparison. Maybe I'll dig it out and love it some more. As I said, I just got through another entire playingof the sessions CDs, so who knows.

NO PROBLEM SENOR!

But "I Got A Right" (I think recorded after RP) rates an 11!

I was waiting for that

Now there's a man after my own heart. There's no way the debut gets a 5, tell your brother in law to go fuck himself.

http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,2557933,00.html

. Rubber Legs

2. Open Up And Bleed

3. Johanna

4. Cock In My Pocket

5. Head On

6. Cry For Me

7. Rich Bitch

8. Wet My Bed

9. I Got Nothing

10. Heavy Liquid / New Orleans

11. She Creatures Of The Hollywood Hills

(I'm not giving you shit, Scott. I realize that you had to do the five point scale.)

My take on Stooges mania

You'll never guess!

Go on!

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25511689-601,00.html

Did you guess?

Wonder how Williamson is holding up? His involvement makes this a bit more interesting.

It's so wrong and so right. Exit Ron Asheton, enter James Williamson. Of course. I'd buy tix.

this leaked fwiw

i like it but then i love the digital clipping ridden abortion that was the iggy remix, so i'm probably not to be trusted

i have the remastered iggy remix -- basically they take it out of the red

p good

yes...

Maybe a 5/5 but not a 10/10. That's just crazy.

no

9.89/10 then, +/- 0.0.0003

kinda hard, nay impossible, to evaluate mastering from a lala.com stream IMO

Regarding price, I saw the 2CD Legacy Edition for $15.99, only slightly more than what most single discs go for. It's annoying that the Deluxe Edition doesn't have the complete set of sessions from that era. Anyone have a tracklisting of the bonus/rarities disc? How does "I Got A Right" and "I'm Sick Of You" sound? Anything included from their Rubber Legs bootleg?

2CD edition is on eMusic now...

only $14 at amazon ...

kinda hard, nay impossible, to evaluate mastering from a lala.com stream IMO

Snapshots of waveforms from the Legacy edition and the first cd edition of Raw Power:

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/04/16/raw-power-a-look-at-now-and-then/

Um, nope. Funhouse also does. Sometimes I even like it better than RP, depending on mood.

sometimes i like the debut better than either Raw Power or Funhouse! Depends. They're all great.

I'm on record that the first album is the best and it is a steady, if slow, decline after.

Shame they did a more dynamic version of the iggy's mix

@forks:
Disc Three: Rarities, Outtakes, & Alternates from the Raw Power Era Selections:
1. I'm Hungry (outtake from Raw Power sessions)
2. I Got A Right (outtake from an early aborted Raw Power session)
3. I'm Sick Of You (outtake from an early aborted Raw Power session)
4. Hey, Peter (outtake from Raw Power sessions)
5. Shake Appeal (alternate mix version from recently discovered alternate mix reels, "The Embassy Reels")
6. Death Trip (alternate mix version from recently discovered alternate mix reels, "The Embassy Reels")
7. Gimme Danger (alternate mix from the 1996 Iggy "violent" remixes)
8. Your Pretty Face Is Going To Hell (alternate mix from the 1996 Iggy "violent" remixes).
(All tracks previously unreleased except tracks 3, 7, and 8.)

There was plenty of room on that disc for remasters of other sessions from that era, like Rubber Legs, Open Up And Bleed, Johanna, Cock In My Pocket, Cry For Me, Rich Bitch, Wet My Bed, I Got Nothing, Heavy Liquid, She Creatures of the Hollywood Hills, Gimme Some Skin, Scene Of The Crime, Kill City, Sell Your Love, Beyond The Law, Consolation Prizes, No Sense Of Crime, Lucky Monkeys, Master Charge, Jesus Loves The Stooges. In an interview, Iggy hinted that they might revisit the cream of that material with new recordings. As long as it's done better than the last Stooges album, that might be cool.

I wonder if the new Legacy issue is an improvement on the excellent vinyl rip which tyler linked from his blog...

yeah that one sounds pretty nice ... i dunno, it might be time to accept that Raw Power is kind of a weird sounding record overall! still want to hear the live disc. i've been enjoying the Electric Factory shows that Easy Action put out ...

I don't know how I feel about the new remaster.

I grew up with the Iggy remix, and I like the way it kind of makes your ears bleed.

I wonder if the new Legacy issue is an improvement on the excellent vinyl rip which tyler linked from his blog...

― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, April 20, 2010 5:33 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

I have both the vinyl and the new Legacy reissue, and they mostly sound the same except the new master makes a few things stand out better, such as the drums on "Gimme Danger".

xpost

There's something to be said for that. My experience was similar with the original vinyl on a cheap stereo. If you turned that up in your bedroom to suitable volumne, your ears didn't bleed but the effect was the same. So when you're young and hear something with that audacity and impact, it forms an
inderadicable structure.

Sonic quality aside, the way they put the CDs into the gatefold black thingy in the deluxe edition = vv fiddly to get them out. :-/

omg, that live disc. <3 <3 <3

I've got tons of boots (all of the Bomp ones, the Heavy Liquid box, etc) but this is by far the best sounding recording of their 1973 live shambolic genius, warts & all (e.g. guitar not plugged in during Raw Power?).

yeah the live is fantastic, worth buying just for that.
8 days until they play Raw Power in london two nights in a row :-)

I'm such a sucker for the Stooges, I had to get this. This is now the 3rd copy of this album I own. I also have an 80s vinyl edition and Iggy's terrible mix. Just listening to the album, looking forward to the live disc, the main reason (excuse) for buying this.

Stan, can you say anything more about the Heavy Liquid box? (without wanting to derail thread). I've been tempted several times, but keep holding back. I have the Rubber Legs vinyl LP from way back and a late 90s 2-disc comp called Head On. Do I really need any more of that stuff?

You've got the main bulk of the rehearsal songs with those two (the first three discs on Heavy Liquid (and the BOMP rehearsal albums) contain different takes of the same tracks) and with the 2nd disc of the Raw Power deluxe edition you're going to have a better sounding show than the ones you can find on the last three Heavy Liquid discs (and the live BOMP albums), so no, you don't need the Heavy Liquid box.

However, if you suddenly discover that the two studio and one live versions of (insert any Stooges song here) you know are all brilliant in their own way and you find you can't pick your favourite of those three, you're lost and you'll need to acquire all of the alternative takes and horrible audience recordings to not miss any other versions. In that case, yes, you need the Heavy Liquid box.

(sorry) :-)

Cheers - I now know that I'm covered!

I'm on to the live disc now, and it's fantastic. I only have the Metallic 2xKO double disc, and was always disappointed with the guitar-less sound. This is great

The DVD's not too bad. Pretty interesting stories about the making of and the struggle with MainMain. Iggy even gets a little teary-eyed at the end about how the album and band finally got recognition after all these years.

Gotta say, now that I have both versions, I prefer the Iggy mix.

I wonder what would have happened if they'd took the master tapes and had a current producer make a totally new mix alltogether. Don't know if the ultimate mix is possible though. It's like Rock Action says on the dvd, the album is bigger than both these mixes.

I first heard the Iggy mix around the time I was was getting into High Rise/Mainliner/etc, so it always sounded pretty great to me.

omg, that live disc. <3 <3 <3

I've got tons of boots (all of the Bomp ones, the Heavy Liquid box, etc) but this is by far the best sounding recording of their 1973 live shambolic genius, warts & all (e.g. guitar not plugged in during Raw Power?).
― StanM, Saturday, 24 April 2010 13:14 (2 days ago)

Yeah, there's definitely something wrong with the guitar during the first couple of tracks -- a faulty cable or something. It does give us a nice insight into Ron's bass skills, though, which I'm enjoying. A great disc.

I've always had difficulties liking Scott Thurston's bar-room boogie piano, mind....

OK, I guess I'm a bit out of the loop here. Clearly I have some catching up to do!

I was aware of three RP's: 1. The original mix, broadcast on the radio prior to the LP release. 2. The Bowie mix ultimately released, and 3. Iggy's re-mix. I gather that there is a new one. This is a momentous event!

That WABX radio thing wasn't a complete mix yet. This new one is a remaster of the Bowie mix (that includes two tracks mixed by Iggy, like the original release). Or something.

London show last night was amazing. setlist below. sounds silly but it was so amazing that it didn't feel like much could have changed quality/attitude wise between their 70s performances and now, other than the fact that they look different and nowadays people like them. Can't wait for the second show tonight. Also Suicide were mindnumbing, mindblowing, hilarious and pissed off and a great great support.

1. Raw Power 4:30 Min.
2. Search And Destroy 3:26 Min.
3. Gimme Danger 4:27 Min.
4. Your Pretty Face Is Going To Hell 4:53 Min.
5. Shake Appeal 4:50 Min.
6. I Need Somebody 3:48 Min.
7. Penetration 3:42 Min.
8. Death Trip 4:22 Min.
9. Cock In My Pocket 3:15 Min.
10. I Got A Right 3:14 Min.
11. I Wanna Be Your Dog 5:09 Min.
12. Nineteen Seventy 4:11 Min.
13. L.A. Blues 1:12 Min.
14. Night Theme 1:34 Min.
15. Beyond The Law 3:53 Min.
16. Open Up And Bleed 10:31 Min.
17. Fun House 5:40 Min.
18. Kill City 4:40 Min.
19. Johanna 4:16 Min.

That's an awesome setlist (veryvery short L.A. Blues though)

maybe thats a typo, i copied and pasted. i dont remember it being that short but then it was all a bit of a blur

That really is a dream set. I want to believe. I wish they'd play a dive bar in my town.

If memory serves, I think the radio broadcast of RP was referred to as 'un-mixed' or words to that effect. However, I think it was the mix Iggy wanted to use & thought was going to be used, so it may only be 'un-mixed' in hindsight. I think I have a boot tape of that sucker someplace...

Tix officially on sale at 11:00 AM tomorrow for Aragon show in Chicago, Aug 29. Get 'em here now presale - https://www.etix.com/ticket/servlet/onlineSale?action=selectPerformance&performance_id=1254977&cobrand=jamusa (pword: yourdog). $47.25+8.25+2.75=$58.25, plus another $3 purchase fee. But what the hey, it's the MFin' STOOGES, and I don't have to fly to New York to see them at a goddam COUNTRY CLUB! Woo hoo!

I'm hearing this album tonight for the first time in my life. I knew 'Seek and Destroy' and 'Shake Appeal'.

This record is so good. Now I feel full of life and nowhere to go to but bed.

Bed is the last place I'd go after hearing Raw Power unless I had someone/thing to fuck.

That's my point... now I feel crushed and lonely but full of life. I'll keep on listening for another hour and hump my pillow later.

This revive is so sad but true.

The show was cathartic. Iggy went into the audience numerous times, allowing plenty of people had the opportunity to dry-hump his leathery hide. Alas I didn't partake, as it was over 100 degrees in the Riviera that night, and many fat, 40-60+ year-old men decided to take off their shirts and give everyone around them sweaty-greasy-backhair brillo-pad-facial-scrubs. I maintained a safe 8 feet or so from the edge of the mosh pit.

The show was moved from 4,500 capacity Aragon to 2,500 Riviera, because they couldn't sell enough tickets. Iggy. And. The. Stooges. Could. Not. Sell. Enough. Tickets. We're all fucking doomed.

well lots of his fans overdosed within the last 20 years