ILMiXor Disc 4: Maximalism

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This is a big ol' maximalist group, but I'm anticipating some dropouts. Dunno yet if there'll be a Disc 5. If there is one I'd like to limit it to a small group of people who are really really really committed to posting and keeping a tight schedule. We'll see how this one goes.

joseph
mullygrubbr
mcd
mark p
mike t-diva
shmool mcshmool
j blount
kornel kovacs
michael f gill
chaki
matos
tracer hand
noodle vague
kevin h
dave r
barima
zaxxon25
chris v
elvis telecom
haitch
m0stly clean
jacob
tokyo rosemary

(standbys: j0nathan william$ and si carter)

relevant stuff here:
http://ilmixor.blogspot.com/
ILMiXor Disc 3: I've Got a Secret
ILMiXor Disc 2: Pop Top 40 From Another World
Collaborative mix-disc. A sorta new concept (This is the ILMiXor thread!)

i love scotch, scotchy scotch scotch (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 21 March 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

also ILMiXor Cover Art Thread (new art coming soon -- the disc 2 cover will be a beaut)

i love scotch, scotchy scotch scotch (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 21 March 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Hey, does anyone wanna help me draft a FAQ for this? (We can take it to e-mail so's as not to clog up the thread.)

i love scotch, scotchy scotch scotch (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 21 March 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

i can help with whatever you need. i have a new job where i can jack off on the net all day!

charleston charge (chaki), Monday, 21 March 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

whoooo!

i love scotch, scotchy scotch scotch (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 21 March 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

someone needs to post max tundra's "cakes".

jermaine (jnoble), Monday, 21 March 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

i'm gonna try my damnedest to get a song up really soon (i.e. tonight). unfortunately my hard drive crashed so i am computer-less, but i've got a song and i just need to produce a little write-up and find someone who'll let me upload the song to their computer and i'll be set.

joseph (joseph), Monday, 21 March 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

I am sorry I missed the last one :(

Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Monday, 21 March 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

on standby list for third dropout perhaps? I can do maximal.

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 21 March 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

I can do maximal....

Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Monday, 21 March 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

we'll see, milton. we've only got 80 minutes!

i love scotch, scotchy scotch scotch (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

i'm gonna have to cancel. my hard drive died, taking my mp3s with it
:(

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

aw fuck, that sucks. my computer bit it recently too, but i was able to save the hard drive.

i love scotch, scotchy scotch scotch (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

yeah. it's like the ultimate ILM tragedy.

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Monday, 21 March 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

ALWAYS BACK UP YOUR FILES

i love scotch, scotchy scotch scotch (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 21 March 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

Once I get a real job, I'm going to drop the coin on getting a couple of huge firewire disks and just dump everything to them every few weeks

Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Monday, 21 March 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

joseph?

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

or should we move on to mullygrubbr?

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

hullo?

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

Maximalism ... I need to do some thinking for this one.

It will not be a song about my last car. I let my sister borrow it and within 3 days it was totalled. I now subscribe to Sebringalism.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

haha i can probably go if need be...but the idea of leading off a disc whose theme i am having troubles with (not intellectual troubles...i'm just not quite sure what i'm gonna say) is a bit daunting. joseph?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

could someone post what i said about maximalism in the Disc 3 thread.. i'm about to pass out from lack of sleep...

as of next week, I can be a standby, jbr, if you want. Or maybe even before then. But I'll be more free next week. Pick a theme. I'm down.

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

right well I'm #12 so i figure i stand a pretty good chance of getting on this one. i like the theme. no one put on "whipping post" though, not that i'm going to, but because it's like thirty minutes long.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

never mind what i said upthread, i'm going to have to forfeit my turn to the next fella. fuck hard drives crashing.

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

ah, ok...are you all gonna yell at me if i put intro inspection on?

thought so.

i think i have something here instead.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

from donut

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximalism
Maximalism is a term used in literature, art, and music to apply to post-minimalist movements or works, named in analogy with minimalism. It is not currently in wide use, though it has become more prominent as of 2004.

...

In the more general sense "maximalism" is applied to any doctrine or school of thought that extends its basic principles to the largest possible area. For example a "maximalist" vision of a nation state is one that encompasses all of the areas where the nationality is abundant, a "maximalist" program in science asserts the strongest possible form of its axioms.

Also...

http://www.musicdiscoveries.com/music/categories/meade/meade.html

Glenn Meade composes "maximalist" music: complex and dynamic works for a large synthesizer orchestra. Utilizing more than 40 different synthesizers, samplers, and audio processors he creates beautiful timbres and powerful musical statements. A master of electronic instruments, Glenn achieves sounds that reflect all the breadth and nuance of a skilled virtuoso. They are then fused together in compositions that are symphonic in scope, with strong melodies, chromatic textures, and energetic percussion. Complex and engaging, the compositions vary dramatically -- from those with blistering speed and intensity to those with slow grandeur and haunting melodies.

Haha, now I doubt Glenn Meade is seen as the absolute model for the theme for Disc 4 ;) ... however reinterpret his example into whatever form you feel a song you have in mind is analagous to the description(s) above.. and there you go.


-- donut debonair (do...), March 20th, 2005.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

This is really cool. Is it too late to sign up for the next disc?

phil jones (interstar), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

(what's especially annoying is that i HAVE a (great!) song but alas no way of getting it up here. grr.)

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

aye, ok, just searched it myself (thank you mully).. my key point was this..

although the term "maximalist" was never used to describe these guys.. think MBV's "Loveless", or Cornelius's Fantasma... or anything that tries to be as multi-layered/multi-faceted as possible. Something that tries to occupy every part of your brain at once... or tries to occupy so much of just one part of your brain...
This would be my interpretation. Your interpretation is up to you.

And yes Osymyso's "Intro Introspection" would, imho, be PERFECT to begin Disc 4.. yeah, it's a bit long (10+ minutes?), but what else could begin such a disc? (But that's just me talkin'.. it's up to JBR)

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

i love "intro introspection"! but then like only three other people will get to post tracks.

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

you know what, go for it.

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

This is really cool. Is it too late to sign up for the next disc?

phil, i don't know if there'll be a next disc. we'll see how well we do with this one.

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

I am totally sitting in at my small school desk waving hand in the air hoping to get called on now. Waargh.

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

ok - well if anyone out there has it and can host it send me email at mullygrubber@geemail.com and i'll blurb it. i'm on dial up here and sending a 12 min track isn't going to work.

alternatively: if you don't know it: DOWNLOAD IT NOW!

and i will choose something else. sorry to fudge around !

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

i do have it, i just have to trawl through some mp3 discs to find it. i can host it too.

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

hooray!

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

it's uploaded. post the blurb and i'll put the link in.

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

ok, ready

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

done deal!

mcd?

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 03:00 (twenty years ago)

so im not going to mqake it to disc 4 correct? (just curious cuz i gotta figure out a song)

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 03:08 (twenty years ago)

yeah you will.

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 03:11 (twenty years ago)

maybe maximalism can be TWO cds!

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

I would like to see milton contribute to this particular theme, if at all possible. Only cuz the topic is right up his alley.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

ok! (and phil jones too.)

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

i mean, wasn't trying to be bossy or anything by saying that btw!! obviously, it's your call jbr. I just think milton could probably come up with something pretty amazing given his knowledge of all those wacky composers...

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 03:33 (twenty years ago)

don't listen to him jbr! milton would ruin this!

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

oh no

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 03:52 (twenty years ago)

(track's ready to go blurb written even, but sadly have no place to host)

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 03:53 (twenty years ago)

so how well are we doing with this one?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

waiting for mcd to post...

we're on schedule.

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

i said 4 songs in 4 days and jinxed it. now we're at 5 songs in 8 days.

gspm (gspm), Friday, 8 April 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

anyone wanna go tonight? and by tonight i mean tonight, not five years from now.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to get in on "maximalism", but I posted on the last disc. But I'll go if nobody else is going. I can post something tonight (= after I get back from the baseball game).

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

yes please.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 8 April 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

I can go too. I almost just jumped in and went last night. I started auditioning a few things. Then I realized if I did the blurb I'd end up staying up later than I wanted. But I could post tonight.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 8 April 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

ok

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 8 April 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

My post is up.

The yousendit link (posted here and on ILMiXor):

http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1UULCCT8PSIU812WH2UZLTOC1X

When somebody is able to host the file, email me and I'll post the permanent link.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 9 April 2005 06:29 (twenty years ago)

Barry -- direct link just emailed to you.

I think I'm gonna go ahead and go as well. Fuck it. 4 days without a post or whatever is just silly. Especially with all the folks on ILM. and I totally had something in mind already, and it actually follows on quite nicely from the direction that Barry took things. also I'm bored and have three beers left in the fridge.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 9 April 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

3? o shit. what time is it?

i think you should go. but how many beers have you already had? the more the better obv.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 9 April 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Stormy. The new link is up.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 9 April 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

ok, fuck it I went too. post up now.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 9 April 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

drunkard.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 9 April 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

i can't help myself.

(sugar pie, honey bunch)

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 9 April 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

excellent. thank you so much.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 9 April 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

i've decided i'm not gonna do a disc 5 after all, so if you'd like to squeeze in on the tail end of disc 4, say so now.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 9 April 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

I can go anytime you like. I was getting tired waiting to see if I was gonna get chased to do it but clearly not.

Plus-Tech Whiz Kid (Disco) (Barima), Saturday, 9 April 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

(ie I didn't want to get caught out)

Plus-Tech Whiz Kid (Disco) (Barima), Saturday, 9 April 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

you can go whenever you're ready.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 9 April 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

File's in the gmail. Write-up to follow at the blog.

Plus-Tech Whiz Kid (Disco) (Barima), Saturday, 9 April 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

your track (which i'm uploading right now) brings us to 77:41. unless someone else has a very short track, that's the last song.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 9 April 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

the link is http://southsidecallbox.com/ilmixor/ball%20in-kick%20off.mp3

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 9 April 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

unless someone else has a very short track, that's the last song.

on second thought, nah, we're done. i'll tell ckb to get cracking on the cover art for 3 & 4.

disc 2 art:
http://southsidecallbox.com/ilmixor/art/ilmixor2_front.jpg
http://southsidecallbox.com/ilmixor/art/ilmixor2_back.jpg
http://southsidecallbox.com/ilmixor/art/ilmixor%202.pdf

disc 1 art:
http://southsidecallbox.com/ilmixor/art/ilmixor_1_front.jpg
http://www.quartzcity.net/blog/blogpics/ilmixor1_back.jpg

(i don't think he ever did fix the pdf on that one)

and these are the liner notes that mike t-diva compiled for disc 1 and 2:
http://troubled-diva.blogspot.com/ilmixor-booklet-1-2.doc

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 9 April 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

on second thought, nah, we're done.

:(

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 9 April 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

it was a cool project. Thanks Jody for all of your effort and work.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 9 April 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

your track (which i'm uploading right now) brings us to 77:41

It's actually 67:41. One or two more tracks, then, or do you still want to end it here?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 9 April 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't it widely agreed upon that we needed an ELO track on here somewhere?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 9 April 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

77:41 is correct.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 9 April 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

I've got:

01 - Osymyso - intro-introspection.mp3, 12:24
02 - shiina ringo - ringo catalog.mp3, 4:45
03 - Fletcher Henderson - Oh Baby.mp3, 2:49
04 - Fred Frith - The Entire Works of Henry Cow.mp3, 1:00
05 - USA-European Connection - come into my heart (extended album version).mp3, 3:45
06 - SpankyAndOurGang_LeopardSkinPhones.mp3, 3:02
07 - Elvis Presley - suspicious minds.mp3, 4:29
08 - George Kranz - din daa daa.mp3, 4:59
09 - Public Enemy - What Side You On.mp3, 4:07
10 - The Beta Band - To You Alone.mp3, 4:53
11 - brides_of_funkenstein_when_youre_gone.mp3, 5:12
12 - Datach'i - Memorandum (Mogwai Remix).mp3, 4:18
13 - Organum - Shin-En.mp3, 5:43
14 - Cornelius - ball in-kick off.mp3, 5:19

Total: 1:06:45

Is this correct?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

no, you only have the first 3:45 of my track (which is 14 minutes).

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm ... I have no idea why I didn't notice the track cutting off ... although I do remember thinking "wtf, this isn't much of an 'extended' version".

Thanks, JBR. And thanks for all your work on ILMiXor. If you decide to revive it after a few months off and are looking for contributors, give me a shout.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

i think it's run its course for now. i want it to go out on a high note.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

o no! more!

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 10 April 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

not right now. if someone else wants to pick this up again via gmail, i'll be happy to participate.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 10 April 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

I feel bad I was too caught up in other things to keep commenting and listening properly as I went, but this is all fine stuff and I'm grabbing the tracks now. Rah! :-) As a collective comp effort, this is another reason why 2005 is the year of the home anthologizers.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 April 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

i'll have the blog updated by tomorrow.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 10 April 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

This has been big fun, thanks JBR.

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

This mix is flawless. It's definitely the best one of the four. Going out on a high note -- absolutely.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Yeah- that was a lot of fun- thanks for putting this together, jody.

Kevin H (Kevin H), Sunday, 10 April 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

you betcha. but thank austin for proposing the idea.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 10 April 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

You betcha! it's been a pleasure leeching new music off you guys. I don't see any reason why it can't pick back up when some group off folks is ready, either. (I'm presently involved in two separate similar projects organized in different places.)

austin, still, Monday, 11 April 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Maybe just a rest and retox. Summer comps could be a fun seasonal idea.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

sorry i've been remiss in updating the blog -- i've gotten sidetracked by my tireless quest for CASH MONEY. i'm on the case.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 11 April 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

blog updated.

mr. troubled diva, could you compile another set of booklets for 3 & 4? that would be most rad.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 11 April 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

I'll see what I can do... gimme a few days... I'm being a bit of a flaky commitment-dishonouring diva right now.

I've also corrected one teensy mistake in the first booklet, at Barry's request (it was just a misplaced credit for the Fischer-Z track).

Thanks for doing all of this in such good humour, jody - massively appreciated.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

I'll see what I can do... gimme a few days... I'm being a bit of a flaky commitment-dishonouring diva right now.

s'cool.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

OK, I've put links to all four individual booklets on the blog.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Is anyone else ready to resurrect this or maybe interested in doing it on a smaller scale?

Jeff Reguilon (Talent Explosion), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

e-mail me if you want in on something similar.

The Pinup Girls of YANK (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

Larsism? Count me out.

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)


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