What's with this new thing in filterdiscodancechartpop where practically the same songs are released within weeks of each other?

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I mean Cabin Crew's 'Waiting for a star to fall' & Sunset Strippers' 'Falling Stars' (maybe include Mylo's 'In my arms'), and Dave Armstrong's 'Make your move' & Junior Jack 'Stupidisco'. Suppose Together's 'So much love to give' and the Freeloaders version could be included too.

I like pretty much all the above, especially the videos. They've got all that ace bursting-out-from-underwater filter effect (what's the official term for this sound?) and pass my own personal test of greatness: sounding good while showering before heading off on a night on the town.

Is this all just coincidence and various people realised around the same time that 'yes! this sample is so *now*!' or is it down to something else? Are these releases from the same label and so it doesn't matter which comes out first? With the Cabin Crew and Sunset Strippers I can't tell any difference between the two and can't understand why they both need to exist.

Is there a goodie and baddie in this? Is one on an indie label and one a cruel major? Please explain.

― Affectian (Affectian), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

blame eric prydz and the great "call on me" swindle

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

They've got all that ace bursting-out-from-underwater filter effect (what's the official term for this sound?)

The technical term for this is "resonant low-pass filter".

Essentially, you're taking a sound (in this case, the pop tune that you've sampled / looped), filtering it down to its lowest frequency, and then passing that through a resonator. The resonator finds the "overtone" frequencies in the sound and cranks 'em up so that they're audible - this
adds that "whoosh" factor - a bass-with-bits-of-upper-frequency-poking-through feel that, yup, makes the sample sound as if it's being coming up through your bathtub.

This effect can be achieved either through a hardware unit (such as a sampler, or some of the better DJ mixers), or through a plug-in effect in Pro Tools, Logic Audio, & other digital audio programs.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

i thought it was just turning the resonance up a bit and then slowly turning the cut-off up. or is that what you just said.

― scg, Monday, 4 April 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

i thought it was just turning the resonance up a bit and then slowly turning the cut-off up. or is that what you just said.

Yeah, exactly, I just explained it in a bit more detail.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

oh cool, i thought maybe i was doing it wrong or something!

― scg, Monday, 4 April 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

Put what you're doing through a hard limiter to to stop the beginning being much quieter than the ending.

― A / F#m / Bm / D (Lynskey), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

I really like the effect. Am I right in saying it's the sound of the mid-2000s?

Resonant low-pass filter: C/D?

― Affectian (Affectian), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

totally. you don't just hear it in dance music either. loads of recent sample based hip hop uses it. "down" by terror squad for eg.

― scg, Monday, 4 April 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

Ah nice one, what other songs/styles of music use this? What's the first notable example of it?

― Affectian (Affectian), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Put what you're doing through a hard limiter to to stop the beginning being much quieter than the ending.

Good call.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

French house & filterdisco
What's your favourite filterdisco track?

― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Ah thanks for the links. Back to the original qu, what's the licensing all about with these songs? And hey, the above mentioned songs: C/D?

(I thought Beanie Sigel - I Gotta Have It (Featuring Peedi Crakk) was an example of resonant low-pass filterdom but it isn't is it?)

― Affectian (Affectian), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

Am I right in saying it's the sound of the mid-2000s?

I think of it more as the overused sound of the '90s. Like when the big analog revivial hit after a decade of DX7s, everyone immediately reached for the filter cutoff knob and just fiddled with that for 10 years.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 4 April 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

everyone immediately reached for the filter cutoff knob and just fiddled with that for 10 years.

Perhaps we need to bring back some lotion. That knob's looking kind of chafed.

― Xii (Xii), Monday, 4 April 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

"The technical term for this is "resonant low-pass filter"."

the term "resonant low-pass filter" is used informally in music production technology circles to describe what is more properly known as "that ace bursting-out-from-underwater filter effect".

"Am I right in saying it's the sound of the mid-2000s?"

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― ommm, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

As for the swiping, I don't think that "Call On Me" kickstarted this trend, although definitely the addition of video clips where one guy watches several girls cavort around in next to nothing stems from that single.

I think it's just a cynical copyright thing that occurs any time a dance tune is based around little more than a looped sample that is recognisable from another song - in fact I think a related big test case for this was Moby's "Go" and another song which actually swiped it completely, and was allowed to do so 'cos you couldn't copyright beats (the melody came from the Twin Peaks theme). All this obvious eighties-sampling filter-house is particularly prone because it's so focused around one sample - see also the two versions of "Stand Back" that came out late 03.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

Call on me thing?

Dj Falcon vs Eric Prydz?
is ther e athread on this? what happened with that anyway?

― Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)

Eric Prydz's Winwood-cribbing "Call On Me"....c or d?

― Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)

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