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It's called "La Tortura" and features Alejandro Sanz on vocals.

Get it here.

― the todster (the todster), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

Apparently she'll have TWO new albums out by the end of the year. First a Spanish language one in June (Fijacion Oral 1), followed by an English one in November (Oral Fixation 2).

― the todster (the todster), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

That's like the best news I've heard all year. Thanks!

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

The reggaeton version doesn't really sound too, you know, reggaeton.

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Still good though.

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Who is the man's voice on here? It sounds like it should be familiar. I love the super-gated snare hits and occasional zap gun sound effects.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

Alejandro Sanz, apparently. Googling reveals that he "vendido un millon de discos en cuatro meses en espana."

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Sold a million discs in four months in Spain.

Gooooooo HIGH SCHOOL SPANISH!

― I DESIRE...MACARONI NECKLACES AND SOAP SCULPTURES (Matt Chesnut), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

haha, okay maybe next time I'll read the other posts in the thread FIRST.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

I prefer to think he sold a million discos.

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

I hope La Shaki went back to her original brunette goddessness and dropped the "Hello U.S. Market!" golden locks. And the whole Sheena Queen O' The Jungle look in general. She was waaay hotter as a brunette.

Her records are still o.k., though.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

What I'm wondering is, do you think the song will do well in non-Spanish speaking places? I understand it went straight to number 1 in Colombia (hardly a surprise), but will it do that good where people don't know the language? I like the song myself, but...

― the todster (the todster), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

Is she revealing any flesh in the video? That's all I wanna know. Shakira is a BABE.

― NamC, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

My guess is that this won't have much American appeal. Not really a bad thing though, she more than probably any other current pop artist has learned how best to work the America vs. World market angle.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

But the woman sang "Underneath Your Clothes"!?!
That song is the aural equivalent of getting pumelled with a battle mace.

― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

In a delightful way, yes.

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

A mace of power ballad LUV.

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

Someone post that assome pic of her.

― Leeenge de Bruijn (Leee), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

I doubt that I'll check for the Spanish language version much, but I'll be getting that English sh*t.
Rick Rubin's apparently producing it, or maybe both?? or maybe just parts?

& f*ck that I hope she stays blonde, it's such a great breaking point surreal underscoring of the event of her placement as supposed "Britney/Christina" which she totally is/isn't.

― Cavebaby Jesus, Friday, 15 April 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)

I doubt that I'll check for the Spanish language version much, but I'll be getting that English sh*t.

I'm not so sure it's going to be two versions of the same album. It says on the web site:

"I did not set out to make two albums when I began the writing process but suddenly I realized I had written sixty songs, some in English and some in Spanish. Twenty of these songs were selected and divided up by language to make two different albums."

Rick Rubin's apparently producing it, or maybe both?? or maybe just parts?

He's just listed as the executive producer... It says though that she's also been collaborating with Gustavo Cerati (ex-Soda Stereo).

― the todster (the todster), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

I love how the words and melody to The Bangles' "Eternal Flame" fit so perfectly within the verses of "Underneath Your Clothes." She's a genius, that Shakira.

― billstevejim, Friday, 15 April 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

but 1 album's gunna be in English & 1's gnna be in Spanish right?? I'ma def check the English 1.

― Cavebaby Jesus, Friday, 15 April 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

I think I'm going to buy this, I really think I'm going to buy this, I think I'm really going to buy this.

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

The ablum I mean obviously.

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Is there going to be any Lebanese sounding stuff on her new album?

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 5 May 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

http://www.shakirarules.com/images/fijacion_oral_cover_b.jpg

It's been almost a month and I'm STILL playing this song! Am I the only one to give a shit about Shakira?

― the todster (the todster), Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Can you YSI it? (Both versions)

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

See if these work. Maybe someone else can help you out if they don't.

http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1GXNBSET4QIHY319200L9RY1VJ

http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2DSOR8ZPEXAPQ18E62DN55T15J

― the todster (the todster), Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

They work. Thanks a lot.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 7 May 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

I just saw the video. I gotta admit her dancing had more of an effect on me than the song, though that may say more about her dancing.

― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 7 May 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

Was she dancing or making an instructional video about how to do isolations? I don't deny I'm impressed with her body (although I'd prefer if she were brunette), but I don't find her dancing very sexy.

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 7 May 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

She always comes accross a bit feral, dunnshe?

― Jimmy Mod, Sultan of Sexxitime (ModJ), Saturday, 7 May 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

RS: She does this tribal dance thing where she's all covered in black paint, and she twists her body round like a snake a lot. More booby than booty this time. Sorta glad I heard the song before I saw the video, anyway.

― the todster (the todster), Sunday, 8 May 2005 06:50 (twenty years ago)

A shame that the image won't load. Let's try another one.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00097A5HW.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― the todster (the todster), Sunday, 8 May 2005 06:50 (twenty years ago)

I saw the video. I meant my question as a comment on it.

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 8 May 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

What was she smeared in? That was too Abu Ghraib for me.

The Shakira video is posted at MTV.com, incidentally, if anyone wants to see it.

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 8 May 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

From a site for fans:

Fun Facts about Shakira
Her name is Arabic for "woman full of grace"
Sony/Colombia signed her to a record deal at age 13, recorded "Magia"
Released her 2nd album "Peligro" at age 15
"Donde Estan Los Ladrones?" reached Platinum in the following: 8x U.S. - 5x Argentina - 4x Central America - 3x Columbia/Chile - 2x Mexico & 1x Spain
Had an acting gig on the novela El Oasis, played Luisa María
The song "Ojos asi" has a verse in Arabic
Shakira Doesn't eat candy
Shakira doesn't drink alcohol or drink coffee
Shakira doesn't smoke
Shakira's favorite thing to paint is "fried eggs"
Shakira's father is originally from Lebanon

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

why are american pop consumers so into THE YARL. seriously, people.

― maura (maura), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

i mean, if scott stapp covered his rippling-like-a-duck-pond abs in black paint ... ?

― maura (maura), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)

YARL?

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)

http://www.scottstapp.com/images/index_r1_c1.gif

― maura (maura), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)

yeah I'm pretty much dying to know wtf "yarl" means.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:38 (twenty years ago)

GET THEE BEHIND ME SATAN a.k.a. maura

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:56 (twenty years ago)

my god for the image of Scott Stapp doing those dances...you're out of the will.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

EXPLAIN YARL PLS.

― Jimmy Mod, Sultan of Sexxitime (ModJ), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)

Is it like fartelling?

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)

Please, we just want closure.

― Jimmy Mod, Sultan of Sexxitime (ModJ), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

Is it onomatopoeiac for the sound a heterosexual male makes when seeing a women he finds good-looking?

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

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yeah me neither, i digged her spanish stuff a lot, so i'm curious to see what this is like.

dont even know the title

― rizzx (rizzx), Sunday, 15 May 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

The album is Fijacion Oral and the single is "La Tortura."

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 15 May 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Larger question raised by Shakira's success on TRL and in American media generally, plus MTV2's fairly forceful pimping of Daddy Yankee's "Gasolina": have we in the US reached a tipping point caused by Latino immigration, so that Spanish-language songs will no longer be once-in-a-blue-moon novelty hits but regular, serious chart contenders?

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 15 May 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

dunno, you'd certainly think so but i doubt it to be honest.

we (the dutch) have a similar influx of moroccan and turkish people but i can't see turkish or moroccan songs contending with either the regular pop folk or the dutch styled hiphop/schlager/pop

― rizzx (rizzx), Sunday, 15 May 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

pdf, I don't think we're there yet. Maybe another decade, or at least another five years. (I'd like to be wrong about that.)

I do think the situation is pretty different from Moroccans or Turks in the Netherland though. There have been Latin dance crazes in the U.S. off and on for--what?--maybe a century. Is there anything comparable to that in Netherland? I really don't know, but I'm guessing there isn't. Also, I think Latin music has more in common with forms of music that developed in the U.S. than Moroccan or Turkish music do with traditional Dutch music. But most of this is speculation, as I don't know much about Dutch culture.

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 15 May 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

that's probably very true. we had some 'novelty' turkish hits here though. but indeed nowhere near the history latin has in american popculture

― rizzx (rizzx), Sunday, 15 May 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

so the spanish LP is out. saw it in HMV just now. anyone heard the whole thing? I like the cover.

― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

I have it sitting around so to speak but haven't been able to get through it. I don't think I'm a budding Shakira fan after all.

― RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

(I think I really don't like her singing after all, yaaargh or not.)

― RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

(But I do think she has much more vocal control than the average yarlisto.)

― RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

It's kind of fun to try to do shoulder isolations (is that what they are called?) to "La Tortura" though. (I look really bad doing that though--I've tried in front of the mirror and I'm not meant to roll my shoulders around.)

"Obtener un si" sounds kind of Bjorkish.

― RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

On first listen. (zebedee inspired me to try to listen.)

I guess it's got a subtle samba sort of swing to it--oh well now it's obvious enough.

― RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

(Keeping it real with a real time "review.")

― RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

hahaha - thanks, RS!

― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Shakira bumped Daddy Yankee! From the #1 slot on Billboard's Latin Album chart. (I am imagining a cartoon where she bumps Daddy Yankee out of the way and he looks sort of stunned.) I still haven't heard all of Fijacion Oral.

― RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

I don't really understand why this is so popular.

― RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...

Screw Vol. 1; Oral Fixation, Vol. 2 might be the album of the year. SHE IS INSANE IN A GREAT WAY.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I think this is a good album too. I disliked "Whenever, Wherever" and "Underneath Your Clothes" but ADORED "Objection (Tango)" and it seems like in doing the bizarro, warped but adorable wailing rock-chick she has gone down the ABSOLUTE EXACT PATH I wanted, and that's rate.

"Costume Makes The ClowN" is my favourite.

― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Can you say more about the music? The reviews I've read have been oddly vague about what it actually sounds like.

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

(Or, you could just say: "Don't even bother, because you aren't going to like it," which could be true.)

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

favorite bits so far:

1. her cursing out god with two different choirs on the first song
2. her pose as naked eve with apple on the lyric sheet
3. her spoken word break where she says she'd move to a communist country or learn to like football if the guy would stay, but he won't, so forget it on 'don't bother'
4. the insane latintronic sonics on 'animal city', which sounds like eurythmics (she did this trick on vol. 1 too)
5. 'hey you' sounds like the stray cats and early elvis costello, except with lyrics by laura nyro and vocals by cher

and rockist you probably won't like this unless you like pop-rock which I don't know if you do

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

wait I just got to "Costume Makes the Clown", holy crap, this is AEROSMITH when they were AWESOME

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

It's a very hard album to describe. It's definitely pop rock, and if you took Shakira off, some of it would sound... um, well there are certainly some indie rock textures in the bass, one song is almost Lilith (The Day And The Time), but Shakira over the top basically means that all of these descriptions don't work because she basically strangles any convention out of the songs. "Your Embrace" is not too far away from "Underneath Your Clothes" - and has the great line "without you I'm only half a body", and has a guitar break in the middle which may have been stolen from an old Aimee Mann song but I can't remember which.

My absolute favourite bit is the intro to "Hey You" which has farting brass, Addams Family clicks and a slow-punk riff. Very sneaky, very brilliant.

― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Let's be honest: she IS sex.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

I find "Don't Bother" very oddly powerful in a tacky way, kind of if late-period Heart had actually come out of South America, but the fact that she falls over her words and puns is adorable because she's basically begging and desperate and it all kind of fits. Songs that say "Don't let me down gently, just let me down. Or love me, whatever" are BRILLIANT.

(The fact that she is sex helps)

― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

hey how about the adorable new wave disco sound of the last track, which is an angry sarcastic screed about how everyone is too selfish to care about east timor?

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

I got mine at Target so I get the EXCLUSIVE Junior Sanchez remix of "Don't Bother"! HAHA SUCKAZ

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

I've been listening to "Don't Bother" all day long -- her pronunciation of "fine" as "foine" just takes the whole thing to a completely new level. I may never, ever get tired of this song.

T/S: "Don't Bother" v. "Since U Been Gone" v. "My Happy Ending"?

― monkeybutler, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

her pronunciation of "But I'm really a cat you see" is just...oh man.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

interesting that everyone's jumping all over vol.2 but blanked vol.1

what went wrong with vol.1? just curious, I've not heard either

― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

I wrote a very laudatory review of Vol. 1 for PopMatters. It's a good Latin pop record, and "La Tortura" is one of my top ten singles for this year...but it's nowhere near as insane sonically as volume 2. Plus, y'know, the lyrics-in-English thing.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

OMG, the opening verses of "Your Embrace"!

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I'm halfway through my listen to Vol 2. I love love love Vol 1 and am shocked and awed that this may be even better. It doesn't do anything for my carefully cultivated hardman schtick that like 3 of my TOP TEN RECORDS OF THE CENTURY SO FAR may be fucking Shakira.

― adam (adam), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

I got both of these on pre-order(the amazon "buy both and save" schtick was actually a deal for once) ostensibly for my wife but I'm chomping at the bit now.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I think it's the Latino market more than the American that's into the blonde thing: My friend Jim used says that whenever he wants to see a blonde he just turns on Univision.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

The Lebanese tend to be into blondes as well, though I think that that's less expected of female stars than it was in the past.

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

The baby on the cover looks like it's gonna shoot off some eye lasers in a minute. Also yes, album of the year provided my hometown pride doesn't put Crowbar in the top spot.

― adam (adam), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

New favourite: "The Day And The Time", which, strangely, didn't do that much for me in its Spanish incarnation (Dia Especial), but now sounds like an obvious single.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)

Wow, "Don't Bother" is really good. Edward O OTM with the "South American Heart" comparison. I love how her English is all slobbery for the chorus.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 12 December 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

Alternate version of "La Tortura"

http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd3/47988/la_tortura.wmv

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 25 February 2006 23:13 (twenty years ago)

she actually does have a new single called "Hips Don't Lie" featuring Wyclef Jean. It's playing on shakira.com. After one listen, I'm not sure what I think except that that reggaeton beat sure gets tiresome.

― A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Sunday, 26 February 2006 00:36 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

The way she sings "Hips Don't Lie" is great (more restrained than "Don't Bother" but still kind of out there), and Wyclef's spot is what it is - but the track just isn't as good as it should be. I think there's too much beat (which is a little boring), not enough Shakira (and just enough Wyclef).

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 16 March 2006 00:42 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

I loved the performance of "Hips Don't Lie" on American Idol... This is one of my favorite singles of the year so far...

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Thursday, 30 March 2006 02:23 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

new single sounds a hell of a lot like CSS

― can i ox (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 August 2009 02:16 (sixteen years ago)

That werewolf one? Don't like it.

― chap, Monday, 24 August 2009 15:15 (sixteen years ago)

SHEwolf

― I love rainbow cookies (surm), Monday, 24 August 2009 15:16 (sixteen years ago)

CSS sound like eurodisco?

― Merzbox and whale songs (The Reverend), Monday, 24 August 2009 15:18 (sixteen years ago)

(eurodisco is a way better thing to sound like than CSS, obv)

― Merzbox and whale songs (The Reverend), Monday, 24 August 2009 15:19 (sixteen years ago)

the title and the part where she goes "awoooooo" are hilarious but past that it's a pretty boring song imo

― some dude, Monday, 24 August 2009 15:38 (sixteen years ago)

<3 "awoooo"

it's really fun to dance to imo

― Merzbox and whale songs (The Reverend), Monday, 24 August 2009 15:40 (sixteen years ago)

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