Stoner Rock / Rock Revivalists (only quality artists)

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There's a lot of overlap between rock revivalists and stoner rock and with stoner rock alone, there's so many crap artists to wade through, you'd have to be rich to explore it all. Unless there is some teeniebopper magazine dedicated to stoner rock / rock revivalism.

I searched "stoner" and only 5 threads with "stoner" in the title came up and most of those are about Kyuss offshoots. There is a lot of cool stuff out there besides Kyuss-related stuff.

Here's a thread to talk about Stoner/Rock Revivalists. Not really fast, not really metal (but sort of, I guess).

Let's talk about stuff like...

Black Halos
Turbonegro
Gluecifer
Hellacopters
High On Fire
Goatsnake
Electric Wizard
Kyuss
Unida
Hermano
QOTSA
Monster Magnet
Valis
Tad
Screaming Trees
Melvins


... and bring the really good stuff to everyone's attention.

BTW, see what I mean with the above list? A lot of it isn't really "stoner rock" the way some people think of stoner rock. It's not all super slow sludgey or downtooned guitars, but there is definitely something stoney about Screaming Trees, Valis, Black Halos, Tad and Turbonegro. It's rock revivalist, the way that a lot of 70s rock was sort of like Black Sabbath, but not really.

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)

For my first submission, I'll talk about Valis. I just bought Valis' "Head full of Pills" used for no real reason. I recognized the Phillip K. Dick reference, but I was pretty sure it would suck. I just wanted to see what one of these new metal albums with such a Photoshoppy looking cover would sound like because a lot of this newer metal stuff has the most hackneyed looking un-designer designs, it really puts me off. So, this $4 purchase was just my attempt to not judge a book by the cover.

I really like it. Check it out on iTunes. I was surprised after Googling Valis to discover it's got a member (or members) of Screaming Trees in it. I think it's better than Screaming Trees by far. It's got some pretty typical stoner tracks, but there's some more upbeat psychedelia in there, too. And some catchy bridge/chorus tricks that sound great and really catchy, somehow managing to sound totally original within a pretty standard rock format. I'm so used to rock not really being "catchy" anymore that it's a surprise to hear a band pull it off without sounding like Nirvana or something else you've heard a million times.

Check it out on iTunes, it's pretty cool. Probably a lot smarter than the cover leads on, too. I haven't really listened to the lyrics, but it sounds very mature (but not boring).

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

The problem is everyone’s definition of what is good is always a bit different. I love bands like Comets On Fire, Oceansize, and Dungen but it might not be for everyone.

Not sure if you really would call Oceansize stoner rock per say but I love that album and might be the only one.

BeeOK (boo radley), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

Oneida!

That One Guy (That One Guy), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

dead meadow

breezy, Monday, 20 June 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

The problem is everyone’s definition of what is good is always a bit different. I love bands like Comets On Fire, Oceansize, and Dungen but it might not be for everyone.

Hey, it's okay. As long as you REALLY LIKE what you're posting about. That's all that matters. You know, sometimes people talk about pretty lame bands they don't really care too much about only because they are tenuously related to the topic at hand. Know what I mean? Like there'll be a Kyuss-related bands thread and it only has 5 posts. And then the subject of Kyuss is pretty much dead unless you want to revive that lame thread.

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

Comets On Fire, Oceansize, Dungen, Oneida, dead meadow

Hey guys, I've never heard of those bands. You don't want to talk about 'em at all?

(I just listed those first few bands to give you an idea of the kind of stuff I was talking about. I didn't mean for it to be a "list band here" type thread. 'Course if you want to do that, that's cool.).

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

Check out Oceansize if you can, maybe downloads it. It might be a bit more Space Rock but it’s a three-guitar assault on the senses. Most songs go on for seven plus minutes and I really connected with it but had trouble finding others who thought the same way. Plus they have a song called "Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs" and that gives you an idea of where they are coming from. I really think this band will be around for a while because they have some great ideas. New album this year, I can't wait.

Santa Cruz’s Comets On Fire is just phenomenal, or the stuff I have heard is, as is what you are looking for, definitely check them out.

BeeOK (boo radley), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:58 (twenty years ago)

Just saw your other post, sorry just kind of busy tonight to get really into it.

BeeOK (boo radley), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)

these threads aren't that lame:

Kyuss/QOTSA/Unida/Hermano/Che/Desert Sessions/Brant Bjork (and any other Kyuss spin-off + Stoner Rock in general) Search & Destroy , Classic Or Dud?
Kyuss/Stoner Rock


and they have more than 5 posts on them. and they get revived a lot.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)

Cool, thanks BeeOK. I'm off to iTunes to hear quality samples, hopefully.

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

Oh and Scott, those are very Kyuss/Stoner oriented threads, which might be why there are not many posts after all this time. I wouldn't open that thread up to post about Valis or Hellacopters, for instance, just sludgey stuff.

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

did you see this one:

Stoner Rock Compilation - Suggestions

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the Oceansize tip! I think I'm in love!

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

No, but again, that appears to have a specific agenda. Stoner Rock Compilations.

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

and you did say that you wanted to talk about kyuss, unida, hermano, & qotsa, so i thought you might want to check out the thread about, um, kyuss, unida, hermano, & qotsa.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Oceansize is cool from what I've heard so far.

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

and you did say that you wanted to talk about kyuss, unida, hermano, & qotsa, so i thought you might want to check out the thread about, um, kyuss, unida, hermano, & qotsa.

Not really, I don't have much to say about them at this point. I'm looking for new stuff.

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

the stoner rock comp thread is not about stoner rock comps. it is about a dude asking for help in making cdrs of stoner rock and the zillion bands that people come up with that would fit on a cdr of stoner rock. and then lots of stoner rock talk. are you stoned?

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

"Let's talk about stuff like...

Black Halos
Turbonegro
Gluecifer
Hellacopters
High On Fire
Goatsnake
Electric Wizard
Kyuss
Unida
Hermano
QOTSA
Monster Magnet
Valis
Tad
Screaming Trees
Melvins"

you are stoned, admit it.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

xpost— Vicodin. I don't really get stoned, I just happen to have some Vicodin. So far tonight I've listened to Valis, 2 Monster Magnet albums that I just said sucked earlier. Then, Kyuss "Circus Leaves Town" and Right now Hellacopters live disc off "Payin' The Dues."

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 02:19 (twenty years ago)

LIKE

It was an introduction to the thread.

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)

Vicodin makes me want to clean the house.

xpost

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:21 (twenty years ago)

xpost, I did that last time I was on Vicodin (last night). There is a weird thing about Vicodin where I feel naggingly guilty, unlike booze for instance.

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

black halos aren't stoner rock. they are like johnny thunders dyed black hair dolls d generation rock. or at least the album i just got in the mail is.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:28 (twenty years ago)

ah, but you want to talk about stuff that is "like" the black halos, not the black halos themselves. in that case, listen to the dragons. they are better than the black halos. and they are like the black halos.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

Hey, Scott, re-read the title and the first post. You seem like you're stoned.

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

Black Halos would be an example of the "rock revivalists" I was talking about, "the way a lot of 70s rock is like Black Sabbath, but not really." It helps if you read what the thread's all about, see?

Stoner Guy, Monday, 20 June 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

http://www.rockfeedback.com/article.asp?nObjectID=950

Oceansize - 'Effloresce' (Beggars Banquet)


Oh thank ye Lord up yonder for this here assaulting, melancholy, beautiful, ugly, heaving, subtle, contagious, engrossing, confusing, melodic, pained, restrained mass of searing UK rock-metal…

So categorising Oceansize was never a deed worth undertaking. And, after the release of their debut-album, it seems even further a prospect not bothering to attempt. But, testament to the teaching that definition doesn’t equate to explanation, Manchester’s dynamic, surging quintet aren’t one to try and pin down – merely one to encounter. And treasure, if you can.

For ‘Effloresce’, you see, is the album of your dreams, and nightmares. An engaging, always riveting (and seldom easy) mass of torrential hooks and surreally haunting soundscapes of bold, and occasional minimalist, capacity. It’s the grossest contradiction you’ve ever heard – a record that moves and touches for its all-out audacity and immense capability, but segregates the listener from the performers through its own sheer spookiness… Look closely to each members’ foreheads; you just may see the words ‘brooding’ and ‘evil’ tattooed there, a voodoo-doll poking out each of their back-pockets…

Yet, in spite of the compulsive darkness, all 75 minutes are a true journey to submerge within, an hour and a quarter to switch off amidst and forget all you know, ready to learn again, straight from scratch: a musical-epilogue both masterfully intriguing and wonderful (the Ancient Egyptian chimes and pyramidal mystique of ‘Massive Bereavement’ or ‘One Day All This Could Be Yours’), or hugely rollicking in their monstrous, obstinate intensity (the only slightly catchy moments – ‘Catalyst’, and dramatic, hairs-on-end close of ‘Saturday Morning Breakfast Show’).

Elsewhere, it’s even more complex – a series of mysteriously navigated, stark instrumentals – namely, the opening strains of ‘I Am The Morning’, and mid-LP introspection-point, ‘Rinsed’ – or sombre, downward-glancing, slouch-a-longs, guitars used as spherical, strings-a-likes (‘You Wish’; the choir-backed ‘Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs’; the harmonies-ridden ‘Remember Where You Are’) and vocalist Mike Vennart consistently belting out a guiding high/screech timbre untainted enough to compete with the surging mass of racket that constitutes the collective experience. Eventually, the ordeal finishes – climaxing dreamily in the mid-pace ‘Long Forgotten’, senses alert, heart afloat, expectations shattered.

And whether or not the masses pick up now or later, Oceansize have crafted with their first full-length record an unadulterated, ear-ringing classic, as compelling as it proves natural, and frightful as it shines through embracing. Once you’ve fallen in, you’re unlikely to return. At last – enlightenment, in all its unrelenting g(l)ory.

Toby L - Written on 18/01/2004

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BeeOK (boo radley), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

The Hors D'oeuvres from Denmark sound like QOTSA, which is a good thing. http://www.thehd.dk/

SToner Guy, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 02:19 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
http://www.nme.com/news/113312.htm

OCEANSIZE BACK WITH NEW SINGLE, ALBUM AND TOUR

OCEANSIZE are back with a new single, album and tour.

The Manchester space-rock outfit return with ‘Everyone Into Position’, the follow-up to 2003’s Shortlist-nominated ‘Effloresce’ on September 19, released through Beggars Banquet.

The album was produced by Dan Austin and mixed by Danton Supple, whose last project was Coldplay’s ‘X&Y’.

It is preceded by a single, ‘Heaven Alive’, on August 15.

The album tracklisting is:

* ’The Charm Offensive’
* ’Heaven Alive’
* ’A Homage To A Shame’
* ’Meredith’
* ’Music For A Nurse’
* ’New Pin’
* ’No Tomorrow’
* ’Mine Host’
* ’You Can’t Keep A Bad Man Down’
* ’Ornament’ / ‘The Last Wrongs’

Meanwhile, Oceansize play the following dates throughout August and September:

* London Barfly (August 15)
* York Fibbers (16)
* Glasgow Barfly (17)
* Liverpool Barfly (18)
* Cardiff Barfly (19)
* Devon Beautiful Days Festival (20)
* Brighton Concorde (24)
* London Clapham Common Get Loaded Festival (28)
* Stoke Sugarmill (16)
* Manchester Academy 3 (17)
* Edinburgh Cabaret Voltaire (18)
* Newcastle Cluny (19)
* Birmingham Academy 2 (21)
* Nottingham Rock City (22)
* Leeds Cockpit (23)
* Oxford Zodiac (24)
* Bristol Fleece (26)
* Southampton Joiners (27)
* Brighton Ocean Rooms (28)
* London Islington Academy (29)
* Hull University (30)

BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 11 August 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

some other faves to seek out:

Dozer - "Captain Spaceheart"
Nebula - "Ignition"
Wolfmother - "The White Unicorn"

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Friday, 12 August 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

fucking pearls and brass, numbnutses!

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 12 August 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)


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