― N R, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 02:52 (twenty-four years ago)
And pardon my "ignorance," but who are Nick and Liz that are being mentioned as having passed?
― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Wednesday, 27 June 2001 03:23 (twenty-four years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 June 2001 03:46 (twenty-four years ago)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0507150236jul15,1,1457621.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true
Chain-reaction crash kills 2 people and injures 4
Published July 15, 2005
SKOKIE -- Two people died and four were injured Thursday afternoon in a three-car crash in Skokie, police said.
Two cars going east were stopped at a red light at Dempster Street and Niles Center Road about 12:20 p.m. when the driver of a third car struck the rear of the second vehicle and pushed it into the other car, said Sgt. Scott Anderson.
Anderson said police are withholding the names of the people killed until their families are notified. He said the injured victims were taken to hospitals and their conditions were not available.
"We're trying to determine what happened," Anderson said.
http://www.electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8803
Local indie music blog The Perfect Face For Radio reports the following:
"Yesterday around lunch time Doug Meis, the drummer for Exo and the Dials; John Glick, the guitarist for the Returnables; and Michael Dahlquist, the drummer for Silkworm all died in a car accident in Skokie. They were coming back to work from lunch and were hit by someone speeding while talking on a cell phone (which is now illegal in Chicago)."
http://www.theperfectfaceforradio.com/home.html
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)
...my heart goes out to all their family and friends alike.
― william (william), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)
― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
Doug Meis is another really really nice guy. Shit. His band (the Dials) has been really helpful and great with helping our band out, he gave our drummer a lesson or two.
I don't know John as well but have played with the Returnables.
This is really fucked up.
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)
This, and the news of Liz, is just a double kick-punch to my head right now.
― donut ferry (donut), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)
What a great drummer and nice guy. My band played with SKWM earlier this year and they were really nice...one of my favorite bands.
Fuck fuck fuck.
RIP, what a shame.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)
― donut ferry (donut), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)
― teh Nü and Impröved john n chicago (frankE), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)
― mcd (mcd), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)
― mcd (mcd), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
RIP
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)
that's all too fucking OTM....
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
― Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Friday, 15 July 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 15 July 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)
a bit more on the silkworm messageboard: http://silkworm.net/(already overrun by spam! he ran the site..)
― andrew s (andrew s), Friday, 15 July 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)
Jeanette Sliwinski was charged with three counts of first-degree murder and two counts of aggravated battery in connection with the Thursday afternoon crash at Niles Center Road and Dempster Street, according to a news release from Skokie police.
Sliwinski, of 8915 S. Parkside St. in Morton Grove, was denied bond when a hearing was held in the Skokie Courthouse in her absence, while she remains hospitalized from the crash, Cook County state's attorney's office spokesman Tom Stanton said.
Stanton did not know which judge presided over the hearing.
Sliwinski was accused of intentionally ramming her 2000 red Ford Mustang into a 2001 Honda Civic, which was stopped at a red light, because she was distraught and trying to kill herself, Stanton said. He said her car was travelling more than 70 mph before the impact.
Three men in the Civic were killed. They were identified as Michael Dahlquist, 39, John Glick, 35, and Douglas Meis, 29, all of Chicago, according to release.
Stanton said Sliwinski was not seriously injured.
― Mike Dixon, Saturday, 16 July 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)
...????????????????
― AndyK (AK.), Saturday, 16 July 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)
.this just makes me feel a little bit sicker and sadder.what a tragic waste.
― william (william), Saturday, 16 July 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 16 July 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)
By Brian Cox and Lolly BoweanChicago Tribune
July 15, 2005, 10:33 PM CDT
Three Chicago musicians who worked regular jobs by day and rocked at night were killed when a young woman bent on ending her life barreled into their car on a Skokie street, law enforcement officials said Friday.
Jeanette Sliwinski, 23, has been charged with three counts of first-degree murder after telling police investigating Thursday's crash at Niles Center Road that she had been in a fight with her mother and "wanted to end it all," authorities said.
Sliwinski, of the 8900 block of Parkside Street, Morton Grove, was going at least 70 m.p.h. eastbound on Dempster Street and had run three red lights when she rammed her 2000 Ford Mustang into the car carrying the three co-workers who were out for lunch, authorities said.
Killed were Michael Dahlquist, 39, of the 4800 block of South Ashland Avenue; John Glick, 35, of the 2800 block of West Palmer Street; and Douglas Meis, 29, of the 4500 block of West Lincoln Avenue, all in Chicago. Condolences buzzed across music-related Web sites as friends and fans shared the news. The men were in the prime of their lives, and more concerned about touching people with their art than making hit records, friends and relatives said.
"They were people who were so smart and brilliant and amazing," said Rebecca Crawford, Glick's wife. "Everyone feels cheated that they haven't been able to accomplish what they set out to do."
Dahlquist, who moved to Chicago from Washington state five years ago, played drums for Silkworm, a band praised by critics for its independence and eagerness to experiment.
Glick grew up in Boston and moved to Chicago six years ago. He was a guitarist and singer with the Returnables. Meis played drums with Glick's wife in a band called The Dials, described by Matt Priest, a talent buyer, as "loud and noisy but super melodic and super poppy."
"Michael was friendly to an extreme. He was a very outgoing and upbeat guy," said Tim Midgett, who played bass and guitar with him.
Without Dahlquist, the band is over, he said. "He can't be replaced."
By day, the three worked together at Shure Inc. in Niles, which manufactures microphones and other audio electronic products, said Paul Applebaum, company vice president.
The deaths "really devastated a lot of people here," Applebaum said. "We are trying to make some sense of it ourselves. These people were highly respected and well-liked around here."
Sliwinski, who is in fair condition at St. Francis Hospital in Evanston, declined to be interviewed, hospital spokeswoman Christine Rybicki said. Sliwinski also has been charged with two counts of aggravated battery, authorities said.
People who answered the door at her Morton Grove home declined to comment.
Skokie police said Sliwinski was not tested for alcohol or drugs.
Police did not say if she was wearing a seat belt at the time of the crash.
The three men were stopped at a red light at about 12:20 p.m. when their Honda Civic was rammed from behind, said Colleen Daly, Cook County assistant state's attorney.
Daly said Sliwinski made no attempt to stop. Her car pushed the Honda into the car in front of it, injuring two others, and a fourth vehicle received minor damage, the prosecutor said.
The Honda and Ford went airborne and flipped over, with one of the victims being ejected. The brakes in Sliwinski's car were functioning properly, Daly said.
The Cook County medical examiner's office Friday ruled the deaths homicides.
"She said she wanted to end it all when she ran into the back of the car," Daly said.
Cook County Circuit Court Judge Consuela Bedoya ordered that Sliwinski be held without bond Friday. She is under guard at the hospital.
Prosecutors may seek the death penalty, Daly said.
Cook County court records show Sliwinski pleaded guilty April 5, 1999 to retail theft and was sentenced to community service. On Jan. 21, 2000, she pleaded guilty to consuming alcohol as a minor and paid a $100 fine, records show.
Applebaum said grief counselors were helping Shure employees Friday.
"Some people who knew them had to leave work," said Applebaum, adding that customers also were upset and offering sympathy.
"The remarkable thing is how many people said they knew these people personally," he said.
Glick was a senior marketing specialist and had been with Shure since June 2001. Dahlquist was a senior technical writer who started with the company in October 2001. Meis started in December 1998 and was a customer service specialist.
Crawford said she was still in shock over the deaths.
"The three of them created an enormous amount of laughter and happiness in other's lives," she said. "They had a certain exuberance about life that is really hard to come by."
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 16 July 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)
http://www.onemodelplace.com/member.cfm?ID=52448
I've been feeling sick all day about this...
― donut ferry (donut), Saturday, 16 July 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)
― donut ferry (donut), Saturday, 16 July 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)
Matt's the lead singer in my band. He told me tonight that he wants to organize a series of shows at the Beat Kitchen as a tribute to the deceased. I hope it happens.
― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 16 July 2005 06:50 (twenty years ago)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 16 July 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)
― nathalie's body's designed for two (stevie nixed), Saturday, 16 July 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)
Booking guy at a club.
― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 16 July 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)
― Jeremy (Jeremy), Saturday, 16 July 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 July 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)
This is simultanously lovely and incredibly sad. I had no idea these two guys were brothers either
― DJ Mencap0))), Saturday, 16 July 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)
― Sir Mildred Pierce, Sunday, 17 July 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)
― elana, Monday, 18 July 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)
― Pam in Madison, Monday, 18 July 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 18 July 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)
― cdwill, Monday, 18 July 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)
it's too sad - i saw them play but once at the knitting factory - it was loud and jubilant!
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Monday, 18 July 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)
― jonviachicago, Monday, 18 July 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
With that said, she's going away for a long, long time. As she should.
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 18 July 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 18 July 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)
One of my best friends was hit on her bike and killed at age 21. The woman who hit her was old, in her 60s or 70s. I have often wondered at the guilt and/or burden she must have felt.
I have little faith in punitive justice, and jail seems like an insufficient answer to such a thing. Extensive community service perhaps? I can only hope that she is truly sorry in her heart.
― sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)
Today, the waste of a life responsible for these 3 deaths was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 06:29 (eighteen years ago)
...of which she'll most likely serve 19 months figuring in time served/good behavior. She needs to have lifetime Mental Health requirements at the very least - but 19 months for 3 human (musician!) lives is despicable. Musta had a damn good lawyer.
― BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)
Time served is time served. Put your rage in perspective.
― Nubbelverbrennung, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)
Chicago Sun-Times story.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)
It adds up to four years, which still doesn't seem like much, but which is a lot more than 1 and a half years.
― Nubbelverbrennung, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)
this makes me very angry.
the new bottomless pit record is a nice eulogy for michael.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)
Wow there really are two sets of laws in this country...
It's a good thing this chick wasn't a black man!
― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)
tim midgett from skwm posted this on the electrical audio forums, surprisingly fairminded about it considering i think:
It is very fucked up, but to state the obvious, the fairness of the situation went out the window the moment she killed our friends.
The judge was hamstrung the moment he decided she wasn't guilty of 1st degree murder. In essence, he had to choose between life in prison or what she got today.
If he's right, and she is not a threat to society from here on out, then whatever. Good for her for avoiding life in prison. If she's not going to do anything remotely like this again, then it's not going to make our lives any better if she stays in there and rots.
I just hope he's right. I hope she doesn't hurt anybody else. I would not bet against this happening, myself.
Which is why I wish she'd been put away, as a friend put it, 'past her partying years.' As it is, she'll have plenty of time to drink/drug/drive in the future. Or not. Crossing one's fingers on this one doesn't feel like enough, but that is what civilized people are left to do.
So glad it's over. So many people, so much pain, so much money out of pocket on travel and hotel rooms and so forth. So many goddamn court dates.
It's over.
Spending one more minute thinking about some flimsy pole jockey is wasted time.
Becky and the rest of the Glicks, the Dials, the ex-Returnables, the Meis family, Heather and my wife and the rest of my friends and family, me--we're all still here, we're all still dealing one way or another, and we all still need each other and YOU more than you can know.
Thanks.
Tim
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)
I wonder what her parents think of her.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)
I still think about this every time I drive by the Shure building.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)
Cannot imagine how anyone directly involved in this nonsense can maintain composure on any level.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 01:25 (eighteen years ago)
A recent story in Chicago Magazine.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 17:01 (seventeen years ago)
guh
― n/a, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 17:51 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah. I just read that and shook my head.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 18:05 (seventeen years ago)
FWIW, the show Snapped (on the Oxygen network) just aired an episode about this.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 22:10 (seventeen years ago)
Might be nice if they got the year right in that summary.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 22:12 (seventeen years ago)
there's nothing i would like more than swift and brutal justice
― res, Thursday, 28 August 2008 00:06 (seventeen years ago)
more...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-sliwinski-24-sep24,0,7641351.story
― A bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (dan m), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 18:32 (seventeen years ago)
"She desperately wants to blend into the woodwork when she goes home," Breen said.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 18:36 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, they need all that jail space for the potheads.
― sleeve, Thursday, 25 September 2008 00:41 (seventeen years ago)
One of the victims' friends, Heather Whinna, attended every court hearing for 21/2 years after the nearly 90-m.p.h. crash in Skokie. Arriving at the courthouse early one day, she watched a man receive a 42-month sentence for stealing a scarf and hat from a Louis Vuitton store.Whinna recently recalled the case when she learned of Sliwinski's imminent release after serving about 38 months of the 8-year sentence.
Whinna recently recalled the case when she learned of Sliwinski's imminent release after serving about 38 months of the 8-year sentence.
― Andy K, Thursday, 25 September 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)
Are we still surprised that the criminal justice system in this country is completely fucked?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 September 2008 01:33 (seventeen years ago)
^^^
I didn't mean this to be flip, far from it. I live about 3 miles from the intersection where this happened and drive by the scene every day and still think about the frustration of this entire situation on a constant basis.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 September 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)
someone should blend some woodwork into her face
― Deep House, M.D. (haitch), Thursday, 25 September 2008 01:39 (seventeen years ago)
It is not the least bit surprising.
Not easy to shrug off, though.
xpost
― Andy K, Thursday, 25 September 2008 01:43 (seventeen years ago)
Maybe the second post in this thread should have said something like, "Are we still surprised that people die every day?"
― Andy K, Thursday, 25 September 2008 01:50 (seventeen years ago)
As dj mencap alluded to upthread, Michael's brother (a well known guy in doom circles) posted on the SL board and posts on DFFD now, and I really feel for him after reading this. I cant imagine what he and his family, and of course the family of the other victims, are going through. This just isn't justice. Truly heartbreaking story.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 September 2008 02:12 (seventeen years ago)
I'm just so disgusted by this - I wish I had the reference handy, but I seem to remember reading that statistically those who attempt suicide with a vehicle and fail have a very high chance (argh - too mad to google - what is the exact figure?) of attempting suicide with a vehicle again later. I'm going to have to go back and re-read that Chicago magazine article - that seemed like a pipe organ for this early release in a lot of ways.
I have to admit - I do wonder what the 'fairer' sentence should be ...
― BlackIronPrison, Thursday, 25 September 2008 03:13 (seventeen years ago)
As dj mencap alluded to upthread, Michael's brother (a well known guy in doom circles)
aren't there some weird Sunn O))) and silkworm connections? like some of those dudes used to be in the same band way back in the day or something?
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:08 (seventeen years ago)
and, yep, this is still a fucking shame.
i loved silkworm so much and micheal was such a joy to watch play drums.
The connection is Michael's brother Stuart, who leads Asva and has played with SunnO))) etc. Asva's new album is quite wrenching.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:22 (seventeen years ago)
ah ok thx ned
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:31 (seventeen years ago)
Stuart was also in Burning Witch. Greg and Soma were in that too.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 September 2008 17:31 (seventeen years ago)
five years today
― Sandwiches That You Will Like.(2002).XviD.torrent (govern yourself accordingly), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)
:(
― hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)
Damn.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jeKiNzV-h4
― just sayin, Friday, 7 January 2011 17:59 (fourteen years ago)
Rest well, all three.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)
This thread hurts every time it pops up.
What is up with the first three posts though? Obviously a glitch of some kind, but when are they actually from?
― kkvgz, Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)
Kills me to think about this every year.
― unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 15 July 2011 01:14 (fourteen years ago)
such a tragedy. great drummer, great band, and by all accounts a great guy.
― van ingalls wilder (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 July 2011 01:32 (fourteen years ago)
Ten years.
A remembrance from Jon Solomon.
http://www.comedyminusone.com/blog/dear-michael/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 13:31 (ten years ago)
Wow 10 years. Unreal.That was a nice piece.Michael's death makes me so sad.
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 13:47 (ten years ago)
RIP, Michael, John & Doug.
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 14:49 (ten years ago)
jfc what an awful story
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 17 June 2019 23:18 (six years ago)
Fifteen years ago today.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:41 (five years ago)
Awful.
I still think about this every time I drive through that stretch of road.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:54 (five years ago)
Ugh - yeah - I think about it too, every time I drive through there. Good day to play some Silkworm (what day isn't?).
― BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:56 (five years ago)
RIPone of my favorite musicians ever to see play live
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:41 (five years ago)