Tell me some good pop post-punk

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Like Orange Juice, Scars, Monochrome Set, Felt (though maybe these groups are just indie?). I want music that sounds like Odessey and Oracle and "So Sad About Us" by the Who, but post-punk. Not Gang of Four or Josef K or Fire Engines or Pop Group style post-punk. Lot's of melodies. Stuff that sounds like "Outdoor Miner" by Wire as well. Big shiny pop songs, but post-punk. Any recommendations?

― oni0n_kid, Thursday, 21 July 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

confidence by scritti politti

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 22 July 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

you need to check out the marina label

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 22 July 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

Young Marble Giants

― Sasha (sgh), Friday, 22 July 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)

The Futureheads have a post-punk sound with GoF members producing them and all but a lot of their stuff recalls great 60's Who singles.

― Cunga (Cunga), Friday, 22 July 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and have you checked out Wire's A Bell Is A Cup... Until It Is Struck? Beautifully crafted pop songs, to the extent some of them wouldn't seem out of place on an 80's teen film, but all of it is very... uh... Wire-y.

― Sasha (sgh), Friday, 22 July 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)

Stockholm Monsters-Fairy Tales

The Distractions-Time Goes By So Slow

The Farmers Boys-More Then Dream

Lora Logic-Martian Man

are some of my faves

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

the first Pauline Murray & the Invisible Girls LP! (hi Dan)

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:03 (twenty years ago)

Spunky Onions - "How I Lost My Virginity"

― Kitten, the body needs it, the body cries out for Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Friday, 22 July 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

Alternative TV's much-derided "Strange Kicks" album is full of big pop songs that somehow retain a postpunk spirit.

You'd love Win, the commercial post-Fire Engines combo.

I'd vote for the first Go-Betweens album "Send Me A Lullaby" as well.

― Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

hey!

Oh yeah. let me suggest the entire Positive Touch LP by the Undertones, where their Nuggets fascination took hold, I can't imagine a better example of "Odessy and Oracle sounding pop post-punk"

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)

Yeah i just realised "Candyskin" by the Fire Engines is exactly the kind of thing i'm after.

YMG's are good but a bit too minimal.

Are Lloyd Cole & the Commotions post-punk?

― oni0n_kid, Friday, 22 July 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

i was listening to that agents of change e.p. by the blue orchids the other nite and it sounded so heavenly. i played it twice.

but, yeah, monochrome set and felt. all of it.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

Jasmine Minks - Think!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)

win are a bit more "new pop" though? (ah distinctions distinctions). fuck i love that blue orchids ep.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)

Wild Swans-Revolutionary Spirit, The Iron Bed

Not much in this world like Candyskin!

Scritti's 4 a-sides.

Some of the Homosexuals related stuff marries the POP with the WTF? as well as anyone.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

Primal Scream - Velocity Girl

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

Listening to Blue Orchids "Dumb Magician", I like it alot, sounds a bit like Bunnymen. BUT I have another question - are there any similar groups that have good singers and harmonies?

― oni0n_kid, Friday, 22 July 2005 01:52 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure if this works, but I suggest TVP's Painted Word and Mummy You're Not Watching Me records. In fact some of the production on Mummy is like the Kinks/Creation filtered through dub/Lee Perry/Pop Group mixing/production. Then again Kinks/Creation are pretty different than the Zombies' Odessy & Oracle. But, it's not too far from what you're looking for.

― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Friday, 22 July 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

No one mentions the Fates' "Furia," which is essentially the Blue Orchids as led by Una Baines, but with about eight other women. Martin Bramah plays on many tracks and is discernible on them. It has that weird witchcrafty-feel on it that exists in the early Blue Orchids / Kay Carroll-era Fall tracks, and despite a few wasted tracks, it's quite good.

I don't know about "new pop" in relation to Win - it seems like a pointless categorization. The first three Win 12" records were all superb and very much in the spirit of "Candyskin" or "Big Gold Dream" but with somewhat better recording quality (you could say "slicker," but it doesn't detract from the music in any way.)

They were "Unamerican Broadcasting," "You've Got The Power" and "Super Popoid Groove."

The first two James singles (five tracks) were nearly perfect. And all the pre-LP Rough Trade singles by the Woodentops were great too, especially the single version of "Good Thing," which was a different version than the album recording of it.

Somewhere I have about a half dozen acoustic songs sent to me by Martin Bramah from the early 80s that were never released. Beautiful stuff.

I see "postpunk" as stuff that happened because of punk without actually being punk. Lloyd Cole is a bit too conventional in every way for that tag.

― Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Friday, 22 July 2005 03:20 (twenty years ago)

The Dolly Mixture. Pretty much everything they ever put out can be listened to here.

― Joel (aquabahn), Friday, 22 July 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

Television Personalities

― cdwill, Friday, 22 July 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

New Zealand is good for stuff like this.

The Chills: Submarine Bells

Anything by The Clean, particularly the song "Point That Thing Somewhere Else"

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

WTF.

― crown victoria (dymaxia), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Altered Images' "Dead Pop Stars" is almost like twee post-punk.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

The Raincoats - "Lola"

― a Side-walkin' Street Wheeler (aaron ef.), Saturday, 23 July 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

Okay I said it last week, but I'll say it again. Early Blondie. Try "In The Sun", "Platinum Blonde", "Fan Mail", "Puerto Rico", "Scenery" (I said last week this one reminds me of early Who), "Rip Her To Shreds", etc etc etc.

Are Lloyd Cole & the Commotions post-punk?

Uh, no. They did some good stuff, though.

― Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 23 July 2005 03:52 (twenty years ago)

"Stuff that sounds like "Outdoor Miner" by Wire as well. Big shiny pop songs, but post-punk"

obvious maybe, but colin newman solo! he had some great moments and even covered the beatles. i like everything up to and including commercial suicide.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

The Comsat Angels - everything they put out between 1979's Red Planet EP and 1982's Fiction -- save for the moodier Sleep No More where their pop sensibilities were less evident/more obscured, although it's one of my five favourite albums.

― Kitten, the body needs it, the body cries out for Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Saturday, 23 July 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

reccomend me some genuinely upbeat *highly danceable* new wave / post punk pop songs.

hey it's been sorta asked. sorta.
the answers pointed me in the direction of so many greats.
the greatest being 'do u wanna...' by bow wow wow.

― piscesboy, Saturday, 23 July 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

Altered Images - I Could Be Happy (& others)

Dolly Mixture & TVPs already mentioned but are U&K.

Pink Military - Did You See Her

Au Pairs?

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 23 July 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

The Au Pairs were possibly a bit sparse, but I love them to death so why the hell not?

― Kitten, the body needs it, the body cries out for Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Sunday, 24 July 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

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