search: 2005's future-thinking girl-fronted electronic pop

AGF/Delay - Explode
V/A - 4 Women No Cry (excellent compilation on Monika label)
Natalie "TBA" Beridze - Anulle
Robyn - Robyn (definitely, defiantly pop)

Um none of those are UK/US, sorry.

oops. can't read today it seems. All those suggestions are 2005 releases incidentally. As for forthcoming... Ellen Allien has a 12" coming out on Ghostly International later this year (Ghostly is the 'pop' side of the label and Spectral Sound the house/techno division, is that right?) I guess it'll be vocal/pop orientated.

She's like the freeform, Tori Amos vs Bjork version of Robyn!

-- BARMS

*head spins*

I think she/they are actually Austrian, from Vienna, or Wien, as they say.

She is indeed Viennese, but she's residing in Germany, I believe. There's only really one uptempo tune - 'da, am monopOl' - which is elepop punk, but the majority of the record is so unsettling that tempo becomes less of an issue.

The album is a beauty, playing a close 2nd or 3rd to The Shortwave Set and/or Cagedbaby in the top 10.

I have no idea if Capsule or Sonic Coaster Pop (from Japan x2) have released this year, but they are totally OTM here. YMCK (From Japan) also - they all roxor.

(okay not all exactly "future" but the Gustav track here is really great indeed)

also, there's a second volume of Monika'a "4 Women No Cry" coming out soon, which I'll pick up as soon as I see, or can afford it.

Comp Vahid.

i would check this out esp as it includes lots of music i don't own/haven't heard - but the revisionism bothers me, too.

If you want to start a thread on "Where are the non-white women in electronic/experimental/punk etcetera..." ILM is as good a place as any!

I suppose they could have put Jahcoozi, The Go Team! and MIA on this if they really wanted to be totally PC.

i would think that prime destiny's child, missy elliott and aaliyah kind of had A LITTLE SOMETHING to contribute to women in electronic music.

if the point is to catalogue 'underexposed' musicians (and presumably make them less underexposed) why make your compilation so bloody indie-focus-grouped?! this is not the way to take any of them mainstream! mmm yes, preaching to the underground...about the underground. way to chase your own tails.

(i am heartily sick of the 'underground'.)

gah. I can't unpack this properly right now but I don't think taking them "to the mainstream" is quite the point here (tho' I admire your utopian vision of a time when the back of school buses will vibrate to Cassie and Kevy B). However erroneous it might be this is more about educating the underground... a bit. If it even still matters.

And if you ignore the girl-part, there's also Junior Boys.

Neither are they pop (pop is one genre, R&B is another), and they aren't particularly electro(nic) either, other than through using electronics as tools.

if this is the point then not only is it even more reason for missy, DC, ciara et al to be on this but it should be ONLY acts like them!

(the point about money is irrelevant though isn't it, i mean i am guessing that at least some of the acts on the cd have had trust funds for instance!)

And totally disrespects those black women who are out there innovating without an RnB sized promotional budget behind them and (maybe) don't feel "represented" by overground role models who do adverts for Pepsi and the Gap.

i think what i'm saying is that this whole hardening of the underground/mainstream divide is really irksome, to be exclusively one or the other seems spectacularly blinkered. and this compilation just falls right into that trap, closeting itself in its underground ghetto.

Questioning the lack of black women is fair enough, but additionally berating indie labels for championing indie music seems as pointless as asking why commercial labels are putting out commercial music... it's what they do! Not that there isn't probably sexism in both camps.

I like this comp and am very happy I own it but if it's really purporting to be "a HISTORY of female electronic music" that is a little crazy

I also think equating early Punk rock, Industrial, Electropop with a "narrow indie ghetto" underestimates just how narrow (and boy guitar-rock dominated) indie ghettos can be!

it doesn't, as far as I can tell.

I think this package is mostly concerned with trying to reclaim some Feminist/Punk cred for the chix own abrasive/alternative concept of Electroclash frankly.

Indeed it doesn't. I've just reread the sleevenotes, which are pretty long and involving (and a pain in the ass to fold back up). Given that it's overseen by Chicks on Speed, whose ideological outlook could generously be described as "confused", it's pretty hard to get a hold of exactly what is supposed to link all the acts on the comp. I guess it propagates a post-60s, leftist idea of feminism. Maybe not though. "DIY" is written quite a lot

wow, was just about to post how great it was to hear that Gustav track out last night randomly (some schmindie dahnce remix of course...) not at all realising I have it on that 3 disc thing. Wonderful, I'll play it in a bit!

And how about a bump for 2008 anyway?