the state of music at the moment

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following on from the libertines wave lots of bands were snappped up by record labels

in recent week i have found out 2 of the bands(one of them special needs) have been dropped more will be dropped shortly

i learned an interesting fact last week, 97% of signed bands dont make it....its up to the other 3% to pay for that 97% the industry is desperately trying to get that figure down an no wonder...labels are shelling out for failed artists so to speak

ipods came in and changed the way music was sold/distributed

the next innovation in music will be myspace, laugh all you like but hear me through. originally starting off as a dating service that went wrong, bands use it to distribute songs and network, with fans promoters, marketers, other bands. it was bought as you all know for a ridiculous amount of money recently, i also learned it has started a record label...it looks at the stats of the bands on myspace, takes the top few in each country, signs them...they make a mint from it! all the marketing has already been done. A band can now be an internet phenonmenon like the Arctic monkeys in january.

the best tip if you are in a band is do it youself, own label, pr etc...if you do sign hold onto your copyright of songs also

whats everyone elses viewsd on music at moment?

― petlover, Friday, 9 September 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

PEER into petlover's crystal ball!

― deej.., Friday, 9 September 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

This is clearly Steve Albini.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

im sober and can't see the music rght now....

― bb (bbrz), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Do you mean there won't be a second album by The Rakes? :(

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

iPods changed the way music was distributed? are you sure about that? perhaps P2P/downloading changed the way musics distributed but iPods/mp3 players just make it convenient to listen to the files.

also, Myspace? WTF. Certainly only pathetic morons actually use Myspace. i wouldn't be caught dead on myspace. can't your friends call you or email you?

― biz, Friday, 9 September 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

I guess you haven't seen myspace lately? Like, 95% of all bands are using it now.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

what's a special needs band? one that had ridiculous contract riders about what color m&ms are in the dressing room?

― patita (patita), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

97% of signed bands dont make it....

Make what?

― Old School (sexyDancer), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

dear music,

i quit.

signed,

the world.

― yuengling participle (rotten03), Friday, 9 September 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

95% of all bands? like New Order or St. Etienne or are you talking about desperate cocksucking bands like Oasis and ...are people really still in bands?

― biz, Friday, 9 September 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

plus, "lately"? i have only ever seen myspace over the shoulder of my pathetic, hard-up co-workers who have trouble making friends and more trouble getting dates. oh, and the kid that works here trying to pimp his band who are a cross between Elvis Costello and Green Day (according to him). all this means is the first post in this thread is completely full of shit.

― biz, Friday, 9 September 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

yeah, all the desperate cocksucking bands. New Order probably aren't too worried about grassroots self-promotion these days.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 9 September 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

well, that's what i thought. any band with an ounce of integrity wouldn't beg people to listen to their music on Myspace.

― biz, Friday, 9 September 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

are flyers ok? demo CDs? Or should band only play in their own basement and hope someone will come and give them money? Myspace has an audio player and let's people host songs for free. The networking thing really helps for a lot of people and amongst all the incredibly shitty bands on myspace, there are a lot of really cool and interesting artists. It's not just south-east asian prostitutes any more!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 9 September 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

biz - at the end of the day MySpace is just a networking service to put together shows with other bands - nothing to get worked up over. As far as why other signed bands use the service, beats me... maybe they want to appear connected to the commoners or something.

― darin (darin), Friday, 9 September 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

just thought I would pop in here to mention that

MYSPACE IS NOW OWNED BY FOX

― richard wood johnson, Friday, 9 September 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

I've yet to have figured out why people freak out about this.

― darin (darin), Friday, 9 September 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

I've yet to have figured out why people freak out about this.

this might help you understand:
http://www.foxnews.com/

― richard wood johnson, Friday, 9 September 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

the state of music at the moment is not a marrisa thread? for shame.

― marissa fan finds another thread, Friday, 9 September 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

myspace is so sad. and so are its users (bands as well).
sarah cracknell is gorgeous

― hub, Friday, 9 September 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm pretty sure I don't have to vote republican just cause I used the interweb to put a show together with Joey and The Fuckheads.

x-post to Richard

― darin (darin), Friday, 9 September 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

myspace is so sad. and so are its users (bands as well).

ILM is where all the cool kids roll!

― Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 9 September 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

not "cool" just a little more competent maybe.
not desperate oasis listeners "not fan"

― hub, Friday, 9 September 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

not desperate oasis listeners "not fan"

This is most un-fan.

― pappawheelie II, Friday, 9 September 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

the state of music at the moment

Level Orange.

― Cunga (Cunga), Friday, 9 September 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

special needs are crap anyway

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

I actually know a couple of bands who used myspace contacts to help book/get onto shows during their tour. (Well, that and BYOFL.) I've used it to find out about some great shows/parties that I never would have otherwise. Yes, there are a lot of clods on there, but just like in real life, you don't have to associate with them. I'd say the good outweighs the bad.

― naus (Robert T), Saturday, 10 September 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

lovelace otm

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Saturday, 10 September 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

The state of music at the moment is New York, I think.

― Too Bad, Saturday, 10 September 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

whatever biz

i use myspace for my band and i have a personal account that i check every now and then.

maybe you're too old for it. i dunno.

― Googley Asearch (Toaster), Saturday, 10 September 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

Where can one obtain a passport for this State of Music, and where is it on the map ?

― blunt (blunt), Saturday, 10 September 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Found it.

― blunt (blunt), Saturday, 10 September 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

Curious thread.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 September 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

has it changed? the moment we were discussing originally is so like, yesterday.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

"It's not just south-east asian prostitutes any more!"

Greatest ad campaign ever!!!

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

Myspace has so far got my little band gigs, fan mail, offers to tour NZ and the USA, visits from far flung friends passing though Sydney, radio play on obscure radio stations from Berlin to Portland, and even music related friendships with a few local artists that have given me a reson to go out again.

It's also allowed me to hear original music that, otherwise, I would never have heard.

If my experience is typical, it is one of the most rewarding free services available on the net. I would ordinarily have to pay dollars to achieve the same publicity results. Plus, there's a very agreeable personal dimension.

While it's true that many acts seem to be using myspace to harvest large indifferent quantities of fans, there is another much more interesting way to use the service, where you simply allow people to come to you until you have some kind of creative inspiration to search other people out. For example, you might think one day, 'I would really like to hear some Japanese electro'. Or, 'Hmmm, I wonder what's happening in the world of midwestern country music?' Then you go searching and find some music, and a person who makes it. THIS IS SO COOL.

I would not be at all surprised if it proves to be as big a wave over the bow of the music industry as was Napster etc. However, whatever the future holds is of little importance to me anyway. My approach is, if it's such a good free service for the moment, why not use it interesting ways while the situation lasts?

― moley, Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

This is what I've been thinking in my most cynical moments as of late:

Computers have made it impossible to make anybody to make records sound interesting, refreshing, and/or unusual. "Rock" bands these days seem to lack any ambition towards doing anything that isn't "retro", "raw", or self-conciously artsy. Mainstream rock is still crud. "Stale", I think is an overused but apt term for 99% of new rock bands now.

Dance music is still kickin, rap too. But rock needs to chill out for awhile.

― fizzcaraldo (Justin M), Sunday, 11 September 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)

Yees

― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 11 September 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

id agree that rock is mostly shit these days but how is it "the computer's" fault?

― jmeister (jmeister), Sunday, 11 September 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)

WOPR only wanted to play a game.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 September 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)

It's not. The thing's dying on its own.
xpost

― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 11 September 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

the music industry sucks. they pick the most untalented people I have ever heard.
I totally turn the dial.

― jack, Sunday, 11 September 2005 01:57 (twenty years ago)

like, totally

― jmeister (jmeister), Sunday, 11 September 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

i can't really summarize my feelings regarding this topic in this forum format. maybe i should start a blog or something, but those are becoming as pointless as getting a myspace profile for your band.

sarah cracknell IS gorgeous

― fizzcaraldo (Justin M), Sunday, 11 September 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

WOPR only wanted to play a game.
Major labels fight and nobody wins.

― blunt (blunt), Friday, 16 September 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)

Yeah with the "computers" comment, I was mostly referring to "experimental/ambient" whathaveyou electronic music. for me, anyway, this style was "the future" but for at least 3 years now, it's been pretty crap.
i can't really summarize my feelings regarding this topic in this forum format. maybe i should start a blog or something, but those are becoming as pointless as getting a myspace profile for your band.

sarah cracknell IS gorgeous

I vote we blow the Internet up and start again.

― I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Saturday, 17 September 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

music at the moment pwnz yuo

― Chinchilla Volapük (Captain Sleep), Saturday, 17 September 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)

"any band with an ounce of integrity wouldn't beg people to listen to their music on Myspace."

robert smith has a myspace page. and i'm fairly certain it's not a fakester page. it's way too mundane to be fake.
m.

― msp (mspa), Saturday, 17 September 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

All goths have a myspace page. Your gothic dog has a myspace page.

― moley, Saturday, 17 September 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

Goth and emo, Moley. You forgot the emo contingent.
MySpace's music player doesn't work right on any mac I've tried to access it on, which means that when bands trying to get reviewed send me to their myspace, I have to ignore them.
But Dane Cook's popularity came mostly through MySpace and he's on the top of the charts (with his "I'm a handsome fratboy" bullshit).
But the future of music? Peruvian pan flutes, mark my words.

― js (honestengine), Saturday, 17 September 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

it must be you, their music player works on every mac I've tried it on.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

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