Has anybody heard Eulberg's "Kreucht & Fleuct" mix? any good?

it's nearly perfect.

Second disc in the same vein but subtly more anthemic - like, most of the tracks start off clicky and trippy but end up in full-blown melodrama.

fair enough. it seems like you're overstating your opinion to stir debate, unless you actually don't like this type of music. "long boring joke"? i think the mix is highly entertaining and perhaps the best document of this particular subgenre of techno available. I haven't heard the Get Physical mix yet but i've heard pretty much everything else and this beats them all. this mix has both excellent track selection and near perfect mixing! must have been done with Abelton.

xpost w/ philip, exactly.

It's all very well to say that Eulberg is playing the same tracks as everyone else but not many of those have appeared on compilations yet - I count "On & On", "This World", "Leuchttern", "Lovefood", "Polar Shift", "Safari", "Welcome Back Kotter" and "Come To Me" as being the only tracks I'm aware of that have appeared in those versions on other mixes - 8 out of 27 tracks. And of those only "This World" seems like an especially hackneyed choice.

I thought it was just me!

"Ruined" might be putting it a bit strong, but I do find it a bizzare and disruptive placement in that mix.

w/r/t to eulberg, maybe i am disappointed because i was really looking forward to it as i think he is a fantastic producer and i follow his work really closely. i was expecting fireworks because of the number of big tunes (tunes that i really like too!), but (with the exception of the middle section as i said above) i feel like it doesn't deliver. the mix is cohesive and tight, but just seems to meander in place. i do love the first two tracks though.

i need to hear the "freucht" mix.

Also been listening to Eulberg's "Issst" remix a lot - breakbeat!

I was thinking that b/w Eulberg and Isolee's second album the Orbital revival I predicted last year has been kept very much alive.

i want it to sound like andy k's review of the au harem d'archimede ... "everlasting percussion jams ... a succession of distant-sounding gusts of wind, chirping birds, circular guitars, tribal drums and knocking bells ... luscious, pensively roiling, ten-minute grooves that double as some of the most organic-sounding electronic productions imaginable ... Mellotrons, floating pigs, prowling Tarkuses, and vegetable costumes"

sort of like "cosmic sandwich", before eulberg got his greasy electrohouse mitts on it.

"tim, explain further please? i'm curious... "

I was listening to Isolee's "Pillowtalk" the other day and was reminded intensely of Orbital's "Adnan's". And Eulberg's clicky/clatteryness reminds me of stuff like "Sad But True" - and more generally that "something changes every two seconds" thing which both Eulberg and Isolee do is strongly reminiscent of In Sides and Middle of Nowhere - esp. see "Spare Parts Express" on the latter record.

The main difference is that Eulberg and Isolee disguise their maximalism as minimalism, whereas Orbital employed fireworks and skywriter planes and blimps to parade the message "WE ARE MAXIMALIST! NO, REALLY!!!"

!

http://www.dominik-eulberg.de/04/downloads/videos/Rave_Rabbit.wmv

anyone want to hazard a guess at what it would cost for him to play?

i "get it" for tracks like "safari" and the original "cosmic sandwich" ... is anybody still making "hypno-house" (another p sherburne production!!) rollers in that vein?

... then the definition is (erroneously?) stretched in two directions:

1) surround-sound zingy clonky maximinimalist electro-house - Eulberg, Trentemoller, et. al;

or

2) Can-on-E euro-hippy tribal house - Jay Haze, Prosumer, some recent Tobi Neumann

... So maybe the stuff apart from Ricardo and "Cosmic Sandwich" is the stuff which falls directly in the middle of those two poles, e.g:

3) Guido Schenider's remix of Dub Kult's "On & On" and some Luciano stuff like "Bomberos" (both of which I guess you could call zingy (but not clonky) Can-on-E minimalism)

This stuff is I guess pretty close to "Cosmic Sandwich" at times and even closer to Villalobos obv.

Also the Sense Club track at the end of Superlongevity 3 definitely, and unsurprisingly.

The track though that for me captures something of the feel if not the specific sound is Schaeben & Voss and Schad Privat's "One Night At The Dizko", which has that same endless hypnotic disorienting feel and that "this could last all night and I'd just think I'd spaced out for a moment, oh fuck is that the sunrise?" kinda vibe.

(/minimal pasta)

e.g.

My My - "Serpentine"
Sven Vath - "Cala llonga" (Villalobos mix)
Wighnomy brothers - "Gabor fur F" (bobb 2005 mix)

There are probably lots of better examples than that though...

But definitely, Luciano seems to me to be making something that in terms of feel is actually very very close to traditional deep house, just with a fresher sonic palette.

But anyhow, am surprised to hear people talking about delays and voice with reference to this as I'd always assumed it was about the beats - like if you're listening to it on k it doesn't actually have to be rhythmic and/or danceable anymore...

i haven't heard 'gabor fur f' (bobb 2005 mix), to my knowledge at least.

vocals are one of the things that i think your brain notices the most when they're not what or where you expect them to be. even if they're not foregrounded in the mix, your brain foregrounds them. not that a k-house track needs to have vocals, but how the vocals are treated/what they do is def. a big marker for me.

There's another track with a similar vibe to this on that Jay Haze mix someone posted on the other thread - about halfway through, psych-disco backing and I think the guy from Detroit Grand Pubahs on vocals (in his high-pitched "Sandwiches" voice) singing yr regulation reassurances "we can do it all night long" etc.... it's fabulous.

which thread was this jay haze mix described on, tim?

after it veers into holden-brand neo-trance at the end ... and all of kreucht ... not so much.

this one.

Vahid, I agree that Fleucht is by far the stronger disc - I've said before that the first couple of tracks esp. constitute this totally awe-inspiring upward spiral. On the other hand, I love the neo-trancey section at the end, esp. "Ihre Personliche Glucksmelodie" and the Holden remix of System 7.

(Ananda and Koivikko do seem to have a lot in common, it's that dark sparkly feel plus the way they both keep veering into higher tempos than the rest of the pack)

I've been listening to heaps of Ananda stuff recently - "Glitter" from one of the recent Coccoon comps was esp. ace. Also his remix of Mambotur's "Vamos Viendos" is as good in its own way as the Jay Haze one.

still great

slam - this world is awesome!

mothers dying
babies crying
people dying
in the streets
in
this wooooooorld!1

or whatever.

awesome.

the robag wruhme misses out the chorus iirc, but the point still stands.

haha forgot it had tht slam track on it

yah this mix is awesome -- welcome back kotter is a banger

"ihre personliche glucksmelodie"

also this one

I came around on Pass Your Bedtime which I love now.

I almost never listen to Kreucht anymore but Fleucht is a banger.

'ihre personliche glucksmelodie' is my favourite dance track ever a lot of the time

https://soundcloud.com/dominik-eulberg/home-of-the-puffin-radiomix-1

Inspired by hearing a DJ drop the Eulberg remix of "Dinamo" on the weekend I pulled out Fleucht again and my god it still bangs ridiculously hard.