i "get" the fall now

PS - I-ah am so fuckin-ah hungover-ah

Open the box. Open the box. Open the goddamn box.

Yeah, Off the Wall, what a piece of shit.

I don't know why but this line off Real New..gets stuck in my head all the time.

does patrin still post here?

Not like you did that much when I posted under my real name, either, but I ain't hatin'.

http://goldenfiddle.com/

I like "Can't Stop Till You Get Enough" and the Fall! It's totally possible!

:)

His most recent show had Ringo Starr coming on to the sounds of "Jawbone and the Air Rifle"...

There's obviously a lot of classic 80's Fall albums but I find myself going back to the late 90's early 00's period more. I think Real new Fall LP might be my favourite album of theirs. The Unutterable, Levitate and Light User Syndrome aren't as consistent but are all pretty great.

Fall Heads Roll is fairly patchy but I love Midnight In Aspen, it's my nomination for their most underrated song. Ride away is one of the most annoying and yet addictive opening songs I've ever heard.

I've not bought Are You Are Winner? or Reformation Post TLC Can anyone convince either are worth owning?

I have every studio album and I will not try to convince you. Get those last.

"Midnight Aspen" is great, yeah.

Hmmm, probably not. I love Are You Are Missing Winner?, particularly Crop Dust, but it's raw and unsympathetic, and apart from friends, I don't know anybody else who likes it.

Reformation Post TLC is peculiar to say the least. There are great songs - Reformation, Fall Sound, Systematic Abuse (despite the submarine production) are fantastic, and there some little jewels (Coach and Horses + Scenario) but the whole is incredibly shapeless, lacking coherence and momentum and somehow utterly off-putting. It feels like it could have been a great-Slates length record.

Live the RPTLC group was incredible though.

i can't even really bring myself to like anything post 'perverted'. maybe 'the wonderful and frighting world'. i can sort of like it in an oh-okay-(rolls eyes) type way, like when you hear the stone roses on the radio or something. there's just a real sense of vistas closed off, ambition renounced, something like that, whenever i hear it. or maybe i just only like them with two drummers.

i mean, i've tried, too. even their best moments you think "oh god! these guys are almost as good as the fall!"

Yeah Hex is my favorite. Last time I was at the community station the Slates 10" was missing from it's place. Made me anxious.

cheese steak! fall motel!

down pokey quaint streets in Cambridge
cycle our distant spastic heritage

oh god - this thread.

MES is straight edge?

― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 22:31 (3 months ago) Bookmark

think that one might have been my first epic thread derail.

... back in the day

are there any free improv records you're currently liking, thomp?

the post nearly man is my favorite improv album

i haven't actually heard any new free improv in a while, unless manafon counts. (it's a fantastic record, though.) you?

nothing recently - a few things that friends have put out on their own microlabels - free improv is one of those genres where there's a lot of chaff, so I usually don't end up getting records unless several people i know tell me it's great or i've heard the group live.

i'd definitely recommend a listen to manafon, if you haven't heard it. it's quite an odd record. david sylvian singing (straightforwardly and strophically) over edited improvised performances by keith rowe, christian fennesz, and various erstwhile records types. i do think perhaps it's hard to justify though - like, some people who are more seriously engaged with the idea of 'free improv' might find that kind of intrusion by song-form to be ... co-opting it? sorry, this is largely irrelevant to this thread - listen to the record, anyway.

also i'd actually forgotten i posted on this thread before. ha.

this is the latest improv thing I really dug

http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Seth_Paynter_and_Kevin_Patton/Fresnel_1577/

i don't have a problem with that - but in terms of the free improv aesthetic (the aesthetic that is often de rigeur in that scene) it's tricky to do "tastefully"

this is the latest improv thing I really dug

http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Seth_Paynter_and_Kevin_Patton/Fresnel_1577/

― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 23 November 2009 18:18 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is ... interesting.

Fresnel features the duo of Houston’s Seth Paynter on sax and ethnic reeds, and brundleFLY. brundleFLY is an interactive processor created and directed by Kevin Patton. In real time, brundleFLY analyzes Paynter’s multiphonics, trills, moans, and pitch glides and responds to them. brundleFLY removes an overtone or two from Paynter’s gradually morphing meditations on timbre and layers the altered sounds back in, judiciously adding analog-sounding beeps and static bursts as well as metallic clanks. Both Paynter and brundleFLY oscillate pitches narrowly; sustained electronic tones and reverb derive from Paynter’s own sound. As Paynter stops, layers pause slightly and electronic comments murmur to an end.

On one of the tracks this thing is basically just sounding like a delay pedal in white tie, though; I wonder how customisable the inputs are.

not entirely sure about the brundlefly mechanics but I like the results

sounds like ornette coleman drone in desperate battle w/ a tape player stuck on ffwd

ancient/futuristic dialectic, yum

it *is* interesting. will however be giving 'the post-nearly man' a spin soon

haha good luck

NEW (Noble Edwards Ward) is incredible for free improv - live especially but on record as well.

Post Nearly Man would be top five records of all time for me. Top 1 in certain excitable moods.

holy fuck this is so fucking breezy, so just flat-out liberated and joyful...it's like some sort of Resonance FM show, except better because it is compered by fucking MES

oh god this is so good, it's like he is literally chilling with his mates in the same room as you

this is like a sort of spiritual successor to 'sir henry at rawlinson end'. while obviously being nothing like it.

NEW EP ALERT

Slippy Floor - The new tour ‘EP’ by The Fall with 2 new songs and 1 live [LIMITED EDITION].

01. Slippy Floor (Mark Mix)
02. Hot Cake - Part 2
03. Strangetown (Live at Camden Crawl)

NEW EP ALERT

/Slippy Floor - The new tour ‘EP’ by The Fall with 2 new songs and 1 live [LIMITED EDITION].

01. Slippy Floor (Mark Mix)
02. Hot Cake - Part 2
03. Strangetown (Live at Camden Crawl)/
--sleeve

Probably the highlight of that is the live Strangetown. Like a malfunctioning victorian perpetual motion engine with a factory floor manager gone lunatic over the top.

The other two are good, in a strong Fall rudimentary style, but as ever recently, I'm wondering about a serious lack of content.

from wikipedia:

"In May 2007 Smith made an appearance on the BBC Three sitcom Ideal, playing a foulmouthed, chain-smoking Jesus."

'Strangetown' being their 2nd Groundhogs cover...

4 1/2 Inch!!!!!!!

so glad u have discovered that song, makes a strong case for 90's Fall.

best Fall album imho is the second half of It's The New Thing!: The Step Forward Years...all songs from Dragnet era, but the resequencing is revelatory...

Rowche Rumble
Psykick Dancehall
Flat of Angles
Dice Man
Before the Moon Falls
Muzorewi's Daughter
Choc-Stock
Spectre vs. Rector
Second Dark Age
Fiery Jack

...it all adds up to an awesome forty-minute album.

so glad u have discovered that song, makes a strong case for 90's Fall.

That entire album is something else for me. Hurricane Edward especially, so beautiful and sparse, bringing to mind aural images of radio masts, stormy coastline, rugged and isolated Scottish outposts. That album is so strange, and quite often beautiful.

Hurricane Edward is fucking amazing. First two tracks are amazing. Whole goddamn thing is amazing. Fuck.

But a special shout-out to O'l Gang, which doesn't seem to get much love. It's...unspeakable. In a way that is entirely good.

But 4 1/2 Inch. Hahahahaha! That song...that song kinda IS The Fall. It's the destruction of England in 4 minutes. Titanic.

I don't know how they left off "Shift-Work" from either of the 90s compilations. MES' falsetto on the chorus is brilliant.

"In May 2007 Smith made an appearance on the BBC Three sitcom Ideal, playing a foulmouthed, chain-smoking Jesus."

this was great btw

Oh, for a Youtube clip of that!

ask and ye shall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdYBvwq3Mq4

might as well chuck this in too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBUiPs1PxKo&feature=related

and yeah that ideal cameo is awesome

wow the music in the background of that ideal bit is from worship the glitch by coil!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEVtCZswTwE

Wow... there are no words. How on earth did you stumble on that?

o man

Friend Andy Zax finds things.

Spinach/zucchini sautee with garlic and olive oil tonight on chicken breast. Excited!

My Dinner With Mark E Smith

Somehow sund4rs post makes perfect sense

Mark e smith looking well these days